You realize that that list: http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm is only DOMESTIC, right? Avatar made 1.3 billion in the markets outside of the US.Anticitizen One said:The highest grossing pictures of all time are Gone with the Wind and Star Wars when adjusted for inflation. Avatar is #26 on the list.
Jesus people atleast read the links you post before you post them. domestic != worldwide.JeTmAn81 said:
:|crazy monkey said:Yes, Jurassic park is still ahead of Avatar Nice.
sigh. Haters gotta hate I guess, even with bullshit.Anticitizen One said:good
Well I guess not pretending the world doesn't exist for one, considering the other quotes above this one. Avatar isn't #1 adjusted, but it isn't #26 worldwide either.X26 said:So how much should it need to make to stop the inflation/3D ticket prices/etc. arguments?
They've stepped up their game. Now its Inflation adjusted domestic only, the rest of the world is out!Belfast said::lol @ the people trying to pull the "inflation" card.
Yes, inflation happens. Yes, movies cost more than they used to. Being a fact of the economic system, there's nothing you can do about it. The top grosser will always, eventually, be dethroned.
"Bububububu!! Ticket Sales!!" doesn't deny the fact that AVATAR is currently the highest-grossing film of ALL TIME.
Count Dookkake said::lol at bolded.
GhaleonEB said:Who?
Oh sh-Vyer said:Even the Lakers bench is deeper than Avatar!
Is it possible for movies to be fads?Count Dookkake said:It's only selling to casuals and soccer moms.
ahoyhoy said:What the fuck is Unobtainium?
Why is it so valuable?
Are they aware that they would probably destroy the economy introducing something so valuable into the economy?
If it was so valuable yet so abundant on the planet, why didn't they go to the other mines on the planet they kept referring to? Who cares if it isn't nearby, you have fucking space-ships.
Seems you're the one making that mistake then. I haven't seen a single person here say that Avatar is the most popular movie of all time, and everyone seems aware that 3D is one of the reasons it's making as much as it is (both because of the ticket price premium, and because 3D is a major draw). So you are talking to, literally, no one.MIMIC said:People who don't know that 80% of Avatar's gross comes from higher priced 3D admissions and think that it's just from regular tickets.
I want you to know I made a Wiimote comparison in the weekly box office thread, and thought of you.Count Dookkake said:It's only selling to casuals and soccer moms.
MIMIC said:What's so funny? Do you not believe that Avatar is a better movie than the "other 3D movies" you referenced? Am I missing something?
GhaleonEB said:I want you to know I made a Wiimote comparison in the weekly box office thread, and thought of you.
GhaleonEB said:Seems you're the one making that mistake then. I haven't seen a single person here say that Avatar is the most popular movie of all time, and everyone seems aware that 3D is one of the reasons it's making as much as it is (both because of the ticket price premium, and because 3D is a major draw). So you are talking to, literally, no one.
Kunan said:They've stepped up their game. Now its Inflation adjusted domestic only, the rest of the world is out!
Count Dookkake said:Yes, you are missing something(s).
1) Better needs to be defined.
2) There is a limit to how much extra can be charged for an allegedly "better" product. This shall henceforth be known as the "599 US DOLLARS" rule.
So why are you posting about it on the Internet, as a means of arguing with people on the internet? Not an especially relevant point then.MIMIC said:I'm not talking about here on the Internet :lol People who I've spoken to about Avatar usually don't know where Avatar making its money from.
MIMIC said:Well in YOUR definition of "better", you don't believe people will pay a little more for the superior product?
MIMIC said:Errr....I thought the limit was obvious and didn't need to actually be stated. An Avatar ticket isn't $70.
Solo said:Id buy that for a dollar!
GhaleonEB said:So why are you posting about it on the Internet, as a means of arguing with people on the internet? Not an especially relevant point then.![]()
MIMIC said:and in this case, it doesn't
aznpxdd said:Here do you guys live that charges $3 extra for 3D? When I saw it in IMAX 3D, its the same price as any IMAX movie.
MIMIC said:If it's a better movie, people are going to see it regardless of price, which Avatar should be commended for. But people need some perspective. Inflation isn't a term that was just invented to rob Avatar of its success.
MIMIC said:Just to be clear, when I said "people I've talked to," I meant people that I've talked to face-to-face AND people on the Internet, just not necessarily this forum. Nonetheless, I get the very strong impression that even people here on this forum tend to scoff at those who bring up the 3D ticket price because it sheds light on how popular Avatar really is. Some people want to insinuate that Avatar is as popular as the other high-grossing movies (because back in the day, gross and popularity usually did go hand-in-hand...and in this case, it doesn't)
aznpxdd said:Here do you guys live that charges $3 extra for 3D? When I saw it in IMAX 3D, its the same price as any IMAX movie.
Count Dookkake said:Depends on too many variables for you to say anything worthwhile on the subject.
Err... the limit isn't obvious when you say something as stupidly open-ended as "If it's a better movie, people are going to see it regardless of price."
JCreasy said:
BobLoblaw said:I've never seen Titanic and I haven't see Avatar. Does that mean I'm unique?![]()
MIMIC said:So you HONESTLY believe that I was saying that even if a movie ticket was $500, people would see it because it's good?
Seriously?
Common sense would indicate that I wasn't being THAT open-ended :-/ I obviously meant WITHIN REASON
MIMIC said:I'm not talking about here on the Internet :lol People who I've spoken to about Avatar usually don't know where Avatar making its money from.
suffah said:Question:
When Quaritch is shooting at the escaped group, some lackey comes out and gives him a mask.
But when they cut to the people on the helicopter, none of them were wearing masks right? (IE when Grace is shot.)
Gary Whitta said:VFX Oscar is a lock, has to be.
If I had to make a prediction, I think this could be one of those odd years where Best Picture and Best Director go to different movies.
They were wearing maskssuffah said:Question:
When Quaritch is shooting at the escaped group, some lackey comes out and gives him a mask.
But when they cut to the people on the helicopter, none of them were wearing masks right? (IE when Grace is shot.)
I'm a little lost here, so I want to recap how we got here. You made a broadside about "some people" equating the "highest grossing movie of all time" with "most popular movie of all time". I asked who, and you said, "I'm not talking about here on the Internet. People who I've spoken to."MIMIC said:Just to be clear, when I said "people I've talked to," I meant people that I've talked to face-to-face AND people on the Internet, just not necessarily this forum. Nonetheless, I get the very strong impression that even people here on this forum tend to scoff at those who bring up the 3D ticket price because it sheds light on how popular Avatar really is. Some people want to insinuate that Avatar is as popular as the other high-grossing movies (because back in the day, gross and popularity usually did go hand-in-hand...and in this case, it doesn't)
aka, this. :loljett said:
Kunan said:Sorry for the nerd rage but..
You realize that that list: http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm is only DOMESTIC, right? Avatar made 1.3 billion in the markets outside of the US.
Jesus people atleast read the links you post before you post them. domestic != worldwide.
:|
sigh. Haters gotta hate I guess, even with bullshit.
Well I guess not pretending the world doesn't exist for one, considering the other quotes above this one. Avatar isn't #1 adjusted, but it isn't #26 worldwide either.
They've stepped up their game. Now its Inflation adjusted domestic only, the rest of the world is out!
gcubed said:you sound like a ps3 fan who brings up japan when talking about NPD's
aznpxdd said:Uh...except PS3 is dead last.
Seriously, why are people so mad Avatar is the #.1 grossing film?
gcubed said:you sound like a ps3 fan who brings up japan when talking about NPD's
Trurl said:I don't see why movie theaters don't charge $50 per ticket. Are they afraid of making money?
While it's absolutely true that Gone with the Wind made mad bank for it's time, it also took decades and several re-releases to do it; the lack of home video market kept it playing and playing.gcubed said:i'm not mad at all, but to try and discredit something that pulled in almost 200 million dollars in 1939 as "only making 200 million dollars" is a little ... wrong... gone with the wind made enough to pretty much buy a freaking country in 1939.
gcubed said:i'm not mad at all, but to try and discredit something that pulled in almost 200 million dollars in 1939 as "only making 200 million dollars" is a little ... wrong... gone with the wind made enough to pretty much buy a freaking country in 1939.
I wasnt speaking of their place on the list, just that someone said "hey, not really" and then the usual follow up of but the rest of the world! in a thread that has an OP specifically speaking of US
Count Dookkake said:If we are going to compare this film in anyway to video games then let me dust off my patented analogy.
The people who doubted Avatar's success in the wake of Titanic, are about as short-sighted and ignorant of their field of interest as the so-called 'experts' who predicted gloom-and-doom for the Wii in the wake of the DS.
Get a brain, morans.
TheBranca18 said:There was also no other way of seeing that movie. Unlike the inevitable DVD/Blu-ray versions of Avatar. Plus Gone With the Wind was out for years and years. Why aren't these brought up during these ridiculous inflation arguments?
Anyway, it doesn't really matter whether you adjust for inflation or not, Avatar did this in friggin seven weeks. Eat it.
TheBranca18 said:Avatar = cost tons of money to make relative to its competitors
Wii/DS = did not as far as I know
Best director is not (or at least, should not be) a lifetime achievement or a technical innovation award, the Academy has both at their disposal and I'm sure Cameron will win a bunch of them.Mashing said:I think the Academy has to give him the nod for best director based on his dedication to this movie and the fact that is has now brought 3D into the mainstream. Basically, this is the Super Mario 64 of new era of 3d Hollywood if you wanted to look for a comparison.
Weapxn said:The screenplay is mediocre. The special effects are fantastic. The resulting film is good.
Since when did the US changed its name to Worldwide?gcubed said:i'm not mad at all, but to try and discredit something that pulled in almost 200 million dollars in 1939 as "only making 200 million dollars" is a little ... wrong... gone with the wind made enough to pretty much buy a freaking country in 1939.
I wasnt speaking of their place on the list, just that someone said "hey, not really" and then the usual follow up of but the rest of the world! in a thread that has an OP specifically speaking of US
"Avatar" has surpassed "Titanic" at the box office, topping $1.8 billion worldwide. "To get to those numbers," says Hollywood.com's Paul Dergarabedian, "you need repeat business, you need great word-of-mouth, and you need to grab an audience basically across the board."
gcubed said:i'm not mad at all, but to try and discredit something that pulled in almost 200 million dollars in 1939 as "only making 200 million dollars" is a little ... wrong... gone with the wind made enough to pretty much buy a freaking country in 1939.
I wasnt speaking of their place on the list, just that someone said "hey, not really" and then the usual follow up of but the rest of the world! in a thread that has an OP specifically speaking of US