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GhaleonEB said:
I had put that movie behind me.
I only saw it once, back in 2002.
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AVATAR surpasses Titanic to become the highest-grossing movie OF ALL TIME
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I had put that movie behind me.
I only saw it once, back in 2002.
WHY DID YOU PROVIDE THAT LINK?!?!?!
WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Gary Whitta
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VFX Oscar is a lock, has to be.
If I had to make a prediction, I think this could be one of those odd years where Best Picture and Best Director go to different movies.
If I had to make a prediction, I think this could be one of those odd years where Best Picture and Best Director go to different movies.
silverbullet1080
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D9 is great in almost every way, only Avatar surpasses it, and only for special effects and really falls short otherwise. Avatar was a brilliant visually, but dumb movie that was well directed and acted, but the story and script was embarrassingly weak.Dead said:
speculawyer
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No Kayne in the OP? Fail.
ryutaro's mama
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GhaleonEB said:
I (unfortuantely) saw Episode 1 a few times with different groups of friends.
I have never seen Episode 2 or 3 more than once.
And I will never own any of the 3 prequels in any format, ever.
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Just wanted to say,
To me, Avatar was an amazing and awesome movie in the truest sense of the words. I really felt like I'd been to another place by the time it was over. A lot of people have taken issue with the simplicity of the story, but my favorite stories have always been the ones that push a classic moral idea in a pure and epic way.
Also, it's ultimately up to the individual to decide whether or not a movie is good or bad in their opinion, but even critics have to admit that there is a lot of appreciation for Avatar at least because of it's insanely high gross. For this reason, I think it'd be reasonable for even the most adamant haters of the movie to try and stay level headed if the movie wins best picture/director in whatever awards show. Just my two cents.
To me, Avatar was an amazing and awesome movie in the truest sense of the words. I really felt like I'd been to another place by the time it was over. A lot of people have taken issue with the simplicity of the story, but my favorite stories have always been the ones that push a classic moral idea in a pure and epic way.
Also, it's ultimately up to the individual to decide whether or not a movie is good or bad in their opinion, but even critics have to admit that there is a lot of appreciation for Avatar at least because of it's insanely high gross. For this reason, I think it'd be reasonable for even the most adamant haters of the movie to try and stay level headed if the movie wins best picture/director in whatever awards show. Just my two cents.
ryutaro's mama
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silverbullet1080 said:
WRONG (imo)
I have gone over this before.
3 major reasons why D9 fails as a movie (imo):
1. The weapons left behind in the slums:
The private corporation (MNU) that was given juristication over the alien site made the most ridicoulous missteps during their time running the show: The most obvious being, leaving the weapons and powersuit in the slums. Why would anyone do that? Who cares if they didn't work for humans, they worked for the aliens (I won't call them prawn). Get that shit out of there. I man, ffs, trade them pallets of cat food if you have to, but you don't leave that shit out there. The whole 3 act of the film is impossible without that "oversight".
2. The control module that can't be found
Once again, the inept corporation trusted by the world to run things, is unable to locate a huge fucking docking ship that fell to the ground before the aliens both move it and then fucking bury it! Seriously? And then, they actually go in there digging and can't find so they give up looking, like it disappeared or something. No bother of trying to look for it with satellite imaging or whatnot.
3. The convienently empty space ship
So first off D9, based around some sort of realistic depiction, is trying to get me to believe that if a space craft landed on earth--A FUCKING SPACECRAFT FROM ANOTHER PLANET--that realistically, the earth's top scientists wouldn't muscle their way onto the ship via the UN? That the US, Russia and China would all be just fine with not being allowed on there due to some South African decision to go private? C'mon...a spaceship landing would be a WORLD EVENT and that depiction makes little sense...anyway, besides that, when Christopher docks with the ship, there is no one on it. No scientists, no one. Not even a minimum wage earning security guard--no one is there. So he links up with the empty ship and departs. How convienent. In a realistic setting, there would be scientists living on that ship, trying to reverse engineer the tech.
The private corporation (MNU) that was given juristication over the alien site made the most ridicoulous missteps during their time running the show: The most obvious being, leaving the weapons and powersuit in the slums. Why would anyone do that? Who cares if they didn't work for humans, they worked for the aliens (I won't call them prawn). Get that shit out of there. I man, ffs, trade them pallets of cat food if you have to, but you don't leave that shit out there. The whole 3 act of the film is impossible without that "oversight".
2. The control module that can't be found
Once again, the inept corporation trusted by the world to run things, is unable to locate a huge fucking docking ship that fell to the ground before the aliens both move it and then fucking bury it! Seriously? And then, they actually go in there digging and can't find so they give up looking, like it disappeared or something. No bother of trying to look for it with satellite imaging or whatnot.
3. The convienently empty space ship
So first off D9, based around some sort of realistic depiction, is trying to get me to believe that if a space craft landed on earth--A FUCKING SPACECRAFT FROM ANOTHER PLANET--that realistically, the earth's top scientists wouldn't muscle their way onto the ship via the UN? That the US, Russia and China would all be just fine with not being allowed on there due to some South African decision to go private? C'mon...a spaceship landing would be a WORLD EVENT and that depiction makes little sense...anyway, besides that, when Christopher docks with the ship, there is no one on it. No scientists, no one. Not even a minimum wage earning security guard--no one is there. So he links up with the empty ship and departs. How convienent. In a realistic setting, there would be scientists living on that ship, trying to reverse engineer the tech.
So, yeah it has some flaws.
silverbullet1080
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The aliens didn't have alien weapons or the mech suit. As far as I'm aware the nigerian warlords had them.ryutaro's mama said:
You're right about this one, though I suppose it can be argued whether they really cared considering they had to deal with over a million working-class prawns on the ground.ryutaro's mama said:
Why would anyone be on a defunct ship a full 20 years after it arrived?ryutaro's mama said:
ryutaro's mama
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silverbullet1080 said:
Yes, because the corporation left them in the slums, seeing them as useless.
The warlords traded the aliens cat food for them.
MNU could have done that BEFORE the warlords and then it would have all been out of there.
Limit the variables.
What was the point of leaving that shit out there?
silverbullet1080
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Assuming that the MNU had at least one of each weapon, they have little to no incentive to enter a potentially bloody conflict with the prawns to get more weapons they or the prawns can't use.ryutaro's mama said:
Neither were scifi worlds were that good, though Avatar had better justifications behind it's scifi.Dead said:
ryutaro's mama
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silverbullet1080 said:
The Nigerians traded them cat food and they peacefully gave them the weapons.
You point doesn't make sense.
Why couldn't the MNU do the same?
Hell, if they had any resistance, send in the mercs. They had no problem doing that at the film's end.
The real reason they were left out there is because, without it, the 3rd act can't happen.
It's flawed writing.
Aruarian Reflection
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It's so telling that the only two movies my family has watched together in a theater are Titanic and Avatar.
ryutaro's mama
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shintoki said:
I think that is fine.
He was saying how (in his opinion) D9 was superior. I told why I didn't like it.
Doesn't detract from him liking it.
Those were just my personal gripes, in detail.
ryutaro's mama
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silverbullet1080 said:
Because we have studied marvels on our own planet for longer (the pyramids for example). There would be a lot to try and learn from that. Think about this: They got to our planet...we are still sending Technic kits to Mars.
I would imagine 20 years would be nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Medalion said:
Not to mention the cost of 3D tickets. Seriously I never get why actual ticket sales aren't tracked too, not saying that this isn't an amazing achievement, but I'd think of ticket sales as a more acurate indicator of cultural relevance (I know that's not really the point of tracking sales though).
Count Dookkake
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Great news for a wonderful film and a talented artist.
:lol at the haters and tears.
:lol at the haters and tears.
ryutaro's mama
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Vyer said:
Hey, don't try and derail this with talk of the Houston Rockets Dynasty.
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Vyer said:
7/10
PhoncipleBone
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user_nat said:
Because dollars pay for the movie and keep the company afloat. 1000 tickets at $1 each means more people saw your movie and it grossed $1000. 100 tickets at $10 each gets you the same cash in the end, but less eyes on the screen. This is a business after all.
Why score sports on points when you can keep a score on attempts on scores and whatnot? Because it is dumb when determining the winner, but it does make for fun stat tracking. So why not just use tickets sold as a fun statistic instead.
Besides, it is called the highest grossing movie. Not the most attended.
Count Dookkake
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MIMIC said:
Yeah, 'cuz all those other 3D movies have taken up spots in the top 10 of all time.
PhoncipleBone
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MIMIC said:
High cost does not always mean it will make more money. Just look at Speed Racer (bombed), where The Hangover was moderately budgeted but made TONS of money.
EDIT: Never mind. I read it as costs for to make, not costs more to see. My fault.
3d ticket prices helped things like THE Final Destination (my own emphasis) and My Bloody Valentine, but they didn't exactly set records either.
Dead said:
What the fuck is Unobtainium?
Why is it so valuable?
Are they aware that they would probably destroy the economy introducing something so valuable into the economy?
If it was so valuable yet so abundant on the planet, why didn't they go to the other mines on the planet they kept referring to? Who cares if it isn't nearby, you have fucking space-ships.
Count Dookkake
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MIMIC said:
:lol at bolded.
PhoncipleBone
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MIMIC said:
Usually that is true. In this case it is. People are willing to pay a premium to see the film, so it deserves the success it is having.
First question is answered in the movie visually. You dont have to be told what unobtainium is to figure out what it is. (unlike D9s magic canister) The rest can be found in the movies background materials.ahoyhoy said:
Just because there is an explanation, doesnt mean it has to be told in the movie. But watching the movie, everything feels and looks like it works, BECAUSE there is an actual explination, even if it isnt stated.
The explanations exist and you can find out for yourself after having seen the movie in the background materials. They supplement the movie.
The background info exists to enhance what the viewer knows. None of the withheld information is crucial to understanding how the world in the movie works.
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