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Baby pals "Islam is the light"

shidoshi said:
Not saying that the mother is a bigot or not, but if the phrase indeed being said was "Islam is the light", it has no place in the game (nor does any other sort of pro-religious statement).
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Well ya know... the Bible Game was released a few years ago. It had a pro-Christianity message. It was rated E for everyone.
 
i hate bees said:
No, but I'd wouldn't want their heads filled with lies until they're old enough to make their own decisions.
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If your kid is driven to religion by a "hidden message" in a game (or any other form of media), your child is a fucking moron and there's nothing you can do to help him/her.

I mean really, you're just as reactionary as the dumbshits who hear evil messages in Disney movies. Kids are impressionable, but they aren't that impressionable. Calm down.
 
Night_Trekker said:
If your kid is driven to religion by a "hidden message" in a game (or any other form of media), your child is a fucking moron and there's nothing you can do to help him/her.

I mean really, you're just as reactionary as the dumbshits who hear evil messages in Disney movies. Kids are impressionable, but they aren't that impressionable. Calm down.
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Do kids that age even know WTF is Islam?
 
Night_Trekker said:
If your kid is driven to religion by a "hidden message" in a game (or any other form of media), your child is a fucking moron and there's nothing you can do to help him/her.

I mean really, you're just as reactionary as the dumbshits who hear evil messages in Disney movies. Kids are impressionable, but they aren't that impressionable. Calm down.
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Give an inch and they'll take a mile, you have to nip this shit in the bud - else when do you make a stand? I don't seriously think that any child would be affected by it in this instance, but at the same time I hope when Nintendo hear about it they'll make more of an effort to avoid any further 'subliminal messages'.
 
Night_Trekker said:
If your kid is driven to religion by a "hidden message" in a game (or any other form of media), your child is a fucking moron and there's nothing you can do to help him/her.

I mean really, you're just as reactionary as the dumbshits who hear evil messages in Disney movies. Kids are impressionable, but they aren't that impressionable. Calm down.
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Indoctrination is a powerful tool, especially on those who have yet to develop critical thinking skills, which in normal cases have not yet developed or fully developed in young children who would likely play these games. It is fair to question how much or if such a garbled and near unintelligible message would influence a child's attitudes, but the effect isn't always non-existent.
 
rpmurphy said:
Indoctrination is a powerful tool, especially on those who have yet to develop critical thinking skills, which in normal cases have not yet developed or fully developed in young children who would likely play these games. It is fair to question how much or if such a garbled and near unintelligible message would influence a child's attitudes, but the effect isn't always non-existent.
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As long as the indoctrination is of a positive message, it's not a big concern at all.
 
Dabanton said:
Would there be this 'uproar' if the speech sounded like "Christianity is the light"?
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Who knows, there would however most certainly be pictures of Jesus riding a dinosaur.
 
Publisher Responds to "Islam is the Light" DS Game Controversy
In creating the Nintendo DS game “Baby Pals”, the game developer Brain Toys / InXile used sounds files to simulate the life like baby noises and babbling. The sounds are publicly available for license. It is a recording of a 5 month old baby babbling non-intelligible phrases. In over 200 hours of testing the product, no recognizable English words or phrases were discernable.

The sound in question of this babble may sound like the words night, right or light, but it is only coincidence as the baby recorded was too young to pronounce these words let alone a whole grammatically correct phrase.

We at Crave Entertainment and InXile regret that there was any misinterpretation of the baby noises and in no way have intentionally put any words or phrases into the baby sounds.

We hope this eases any concerns and fans continue to enjoy playing the game.
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Hy_ said:
:lol at the mother! "Now I have to check all my kids toys so they aren't saying IT."

It's a disgusting epidemic, oh our precious Christan values!
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ugh why does this thread inevitably have to go all anti Christianity.
 
This makes me ashamed to be American.

Phantast2k said:
You do realize that something like this in the Middle East - only reversed, say: "Jesus Christ is the light" - would cause violent mass protests with public burnings of the products?
The hate/disgust is not exclusive to Christians. It can go both ways.
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Now I'm ashamed to be human.
 
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neorej said:
So basically, you indoctrinate your kids that religion is bad...

Interesting.
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With half of the americans denying the evolution of the species, and paying with money with "In god we trust" written on it, I understand agnosticism and atheism may sound intresting.

I'm not religious but I don't think religion is intrinsically bad. It certainly helps illiterate people to be better, but I hate how many people is devoted to some fake messiah (C'mon, Jesus was a good person, an awesomely charismatic one, handicaped with paranoid schizophrenia), which make them better human beings in some ways, and more stupid than dogs in others.

The best for the children is let them decide what to trust, what to believe, and approve their thoughts even if you don't agree. That's the way you create a good mind, a real person, and not a creationist puppet.
 
TheGreatDave said:
Religion wouldn't be at all if humans weren't fucking stupid.
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Please remember religion was invented by human lack of knowledge, and stupid means "Marked by a lack of intelligence or care". I've done the math for you and bolded the changes in the statement above.
 
Vaandaviii said:
Please remember religion was invented by human lack of knowledge, and stupid means "Marked by a lack of intelligence or care". I've done the math for you and bolded the changes in the statement above.
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Ultimately there's no harm in having a faith. My girlfriend believes in fate, which I think is ridiculous, but ultimately it's not that different to believing in a God. My point was that the general teachings of religions are mostly good. Possibly outdated in certain areas, but for the most part if you just followed the teachings of a religion chances are you're not going to be an asshole. Disregard the whole man-in-the-sky thing. But we all know that's no exactly how it worked out. Instead you end up with stupid stories like this where somebody is outraged at another religion possibly being mentioned in a non-negative way in their home.
 
Vaandaviii said:
Please remember religion was invented by human lack of knowledge, and stupid means "Marked by a lack of intelligence or care". I've done the math for you and bolded the changes in the statement above.
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Theology? Check.
Philosophy? Check.
Linguistics? Check.
Semiotics? Check.

GAF freaking delivers.

But that P-A strip is effing hilarious. Has anyone any clear understanding what the doll/game might be saying?
 
glaurung said:
But that P-A strip is effing hilarious. Has anyone any clear understanding what the doll/game might be saying?
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It's not saying anything.
 
I love how American Christianity is always identified with the fringe and the ultra fundamental just because they're the ones making the news. Those people are the minority and always have been. Us regular Christians don't burn Harry Potter books, have no trouble reconciling scientific theory with faith, don't think that homosexuality is the greatest evil in the world, aren't scared to death of people who have different beliefs or different lifestyles. We don't make the news because we have other shit to do.
 
Vaandaviii said:
Please remember religion was invented by human lack of knowledge, and stupid means "Marked by a lack of intelligence or care". I've done the math for you and bolded the changes in the statement above.
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I'd rather say religion was "invented" because people wanted a way to affect fate. So they gave it an image and worshipped it.
At first probably just like a great spirit in the sky, the "it's basically like a person" thing came later.

You can't fault people for wanting a way out of being struck by seemingly random catstrophes... and to be hit with the nice surprises instead. Which determines so much of your life it's not even funny.
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truly101 said:
I love how American Christianity is always identified with the fringe and the ultra fundamental just because they're the ones making the news. Those people are the minority and always have been. Us regular Christians don't burn Harry Potter books, have no trouble reconciling scientific theory with faith, don't think that homosexuality is the greatest evil in the world, aren't scared to death of people who have different beliefs or different lifestyles. We don't make the news because we have other shit to do.
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And on that same page, when people get in arms about Christianity in America, they aren't getting in arms about you.
 
truly101 said:
I love how American Christianity is always identified with the fringe and the ultra fundamental just because they're the ones making the news. Those people are the minority and always have been. Us regular Christians don't burn Harry Potter books, have no trouble reconciling scientific theory with faith, don't think that homosexuality is the greatest evil in the world, aren't scared to death of people who have different beliefs or different lifestyles. We don't make the news because we have other shit to do.
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Yeah, I'm always sorry for the "regular" guys. It's news... where the middle east is inhabited only by raving lunatics who only want to blow up shit in your face. My city is an immigration hotpot, I see so many normal people from all over the world.

The tabloid and boulevard papers are the devil, I swear it.

RevenantKioku said:
And on that same page, when people get in arms about Christianity in America, they aren't getting in arms about you.
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No... but most people think American Christianiyt basically consists of nutcases. I have yet to hear a "it's mostly normal people" from my central european peers. So I totally feel him there.
 
Vaandaviii said:
Please remember religion was invented by human lack of knowledge, and stupid means "Marked by a lack of intelligence or care". I've done the math for you and bolded the changes in the statement above.
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And religion came about because humans desired to seek that knowledge, of how the universe was created, how man separated from the animals, and what man's purpose is in this world. Science and philosophy came about in the same way as well.
 
RevenantKioku said:
And on that same page, when people get in arms about Christianity in America, they aren't getting in arms about you.
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But they tend to make blanket statements that don't distinguish between the radical and the moderate. It would be easy for me to state how muslims are ignorant violent brutes based on what makes the news, but that's ridiculous because those extremist represent a small but very vocal minority of their religion. Most muslims would probably just like to live their life in peace, practice their faith and concentrate on the day to day task of living.
 
Xun said:
Religion is not awesome, and in my honest opinion there are no benefits with being religious.
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Even being an Atheist, I disagree strongly with you.

I could go on about reasons why, but I'll just state one. Religion gives people peace of mind about death. If it allows tons of people to sleep better at night not having to worry about how insignificant their existence is, then I'm all for it. At times I wish I could believe.
 
truly101 said:
But they tend to make blanket statements that don't distinguish between the radical and the moderate. It would be easy for me to state how muslims are ignorant violent brutes based on what makes the news, but that's ridiculous because those extremist represent a small but very vocal minority of their religion. Most muslims would probably just like to live their life in peace, practice their faith and concentrate on the day to day task of living.
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Well, you gotta look at blanket statements in context. They tend to be easier to just say and be done with it.
 
Ferrio said:
Even being an Atheist, I disagree strongly with you.

I could go on about reasons why, but I'll just state one. Religion gives people peace of mind about death. If it allows tons of people to sleep better at night not having to worry about how insignificant their existence is, then I'm all for it. At times I wish I could believe.
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Ok I agree with you there (and I wasn't denying that from the start), but at the same time I do feel it causes more harm than good, especially when people become so clouded by beliefs that they can't accept any contradicting evidence.

Oh and for the record I too wish it were real, but I think most Atheists think like this.
 
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