hmm... wonder if thats hinting at android support then, can't think of what else it could be unless they went console.
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Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition first "screens" [Up: X-Platform Multi] PC/iPad/Mac
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hmm... wonder if thats hinting at android support then, can't think of what else it could be unless they went console.
http://kotaku.com/5896565/baldurs-gate-ipad-will-support-multiplayer-cost-less-than-10
@jasonschreier mention Baldur's Gate II will be available for iPad as well, details tomorrow
@jasonschreier mention Baldur's Gate II will be available for iPad as well, details tomorrow
So if they make BG3, will they make it with the ipad interface in mind? This could get ugly.
It's only mod not remake. BG1 will use Throne of Ball engine (already modders did that few years ago) and they will add aditional content.
What i'm excited about is PROPER MULTI.
BG2/1 multi just don't work on modern PC.
Minsc
Gold Member
Cloud saves, proper multiplayer support, under $10, improved touch interface... sounding great. SE could take a few notes here!
Considering they'll have BG1 & 2 running with the iPad interface in mind, any new content should not suffer in any way for the platform it's played on.
Considering they'll have BG1 & 2 running with the iPad interface in mind, any new content should not suffer in any way for the platform it's played on.
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
The real question is: will it still support custom portraits and sound files.
A little more info:
http://kotaku.com/5896538/they-hope-baldurs-gate-will-revive-the-classic-rpg
"The desktop versions of both games won't be changed much, Tofer says. They'll have higher resolutions and full-screen modes, as well as "working" multi-player, but they won't look too different from their original incarnations in 1998 and 2000.
On the other hand, Tofer says the iPad version will be a "radical departure from the interface." The text will be bigger. You'll be able to pinch the screen to zoom in and out. You'll be able to gesture between screens instead of clicking the tab. The whole game might be zoomed in a little more."
http://kotaku.com/5896538/they-hope-baldurs-gate-will-revive-the-classic-rpg
"The desktop versions of both games won't be changed much, Tofer says. They'll have higher resolutions and full-screen modes, as well as "working" multi-player, but they won't look too different from their original incarnations in 1998 and 2000.
On the other hand, Tofer says the iPad version will be a "radical departure from the interface." The text will be bigger. You'll be able to pinch the screen to zoom in and out. You'll be able to gesture between screens instead of clicking the tab. The whole game might be zoomed in a little more."
I really hope so. The only thing more "crazy" than charging more than 10$ would be to do so only on PC.
How did multiplayer in BG work anyway? Do you have a character that is stored client-side which can you bring along to any game being hosted, and the game's progression is based on the host's progression but you'll save any changes made to your character? Or do you just pick or create a character to control in the host's game and you can't bring it over to another person's game?
Yaska
Member
Pretty much. Lan play still works quite well with tutu. Played around with friends a year ago using tutu.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
There doesn't seem to be a reason to buy this if you already have the games (unless just to support the developer). Unless the new content is good which I doubt it will be all that great.
Most of the stuff seems to already be done with mods.
This will be great for people that have never played though.
Most of the stuff seems to already be done with mods.
This will be great for people that have never played though.
That kinda stinks but is understandable. Hopefully they add in lobby support for the enhanced version or at the very least UPnP.
This si good to hear...while Ive played most of the BG series, I never played Planescape Torment.
Im also curious if you would be able to import your character from BG1 to BG2 (like in the PC versions)? I would assume so but Im not too certain given Ive never seen another iOS app do that.
That's a little shortsighted don't you think? The touch screen design will limit the interface/hotkey potential. Unless they make a separate version for PC, but given the size of the company I know that will not happen.
If only there were already 2 Baldur's Gate games on PC with PC centric UIs...
Refreshment.01
Member
Can someone explain how multi could work?
Krauser Kat
Member
i think scrolling the map with 2 fingers would work better and using one finger to select things like draw boxes. Hope this comes to the amazon android store. Would be much more inclined to buy an android tablet than an ipad.
actually ARM windows 8 would be my first choice.
actually ARM windows 8 would be my first choice.
foxdvd
Member
yeah...my first reaction was one of excitement, but these games are very story heavy...not sure how well it would flow with other people in the party..
Ya...Mp in these games isnt a big draw for me. But if it gets other people interested than that's fine.
? You never played BG2 in multi? It was a hassle to set up the server but the game itself was great fun. It becomes more action-y in multiplayer (not much pausing) but that's not a bad thing actually as it makes the game feel quite different to singleplayer.
However there is one battle that is haaaard in multiplayer and that is Demogorgon.
Haunted
Member
This announcement prompted me to play Avadon: The Black Fortress, which is supposedly in a similar style, and I have to say... if you can forgive a technically more modern game to have slightly worse art than the best titles from the Infinity Engine era, it really scratches that itch nicely.
Comes recommended to fans of the genre.
Comes recommended to fans of the genre.
It's still fairly early but based on that gameplay screenshot it looks like BG Enhanced is a professional version of Baldurs Gate Trilogy, a mod for BG1/2/expansions which brought BG1's content into the improved engine of BG2, as well as the improved mechanics, spells, classes, etc etc.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
At this rate, BG1EE will come out just about when I finish my entire run through all of the baldurings.
I just got to the city itself in BG1, which has a tendency to sort of overwhelm me with options so I need to just buckle down and get shit done for Scar, I think.
I just got to the city itself in BG1, which has a tendency to sort of overwhelm me with options so I need to just buckle down and get shit done for Scar, I think.
SerArthurDayne
Member
For $10 I'll buy for both. Too bad no Transfarring!
Karak
Member
Agreed. Almost everything Spiderweb Software does rocks.
FrontalMonk
Banned
reinstall BG1 now, or wait for the EE...ugh, why is this so hard :O
The question is whether this new character and stuff is worth the loss of mods like Unfinished Business, NPC Banter pack, etc.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Any reason to believe this- twitter comments, etc?
Just curious, as they seem pretty open about the process.
I have only ever played with all those mods once, and the game is still great without, but I certainly wouldn't turn down the opportunity to have them incorporated.
Wow, that is very ugly. But good gameplay? How about the story/characters? More BG or Icewind Dale in regard to NPCs?
I think they mentioned including popular mods.
It's a shame the desktop version will be the same. Multiplayer is also working with my GOG copy. Played the whole game in MP recently. You do need Hamachi though.
Since this is coming out so soon it seems the tweak will be minor? At least it's good more people will get to play these. Since I don't plan on getting an Ipad I will stick with the GOG versions.
bishopcruz
Member
Shame they won't have the zoom on the PC version. It would be really cool to be able to zoom-in and out when you have a high res. The graphics just get way too tiny at say, 1080p.
They say that they already work for one year on BG EE.
Maybe we will get nothing new, only 2-4hours new quests, but maybe we will get 100 hours new quests, great Multiplayer Mod and a great Modtool.
We will see ^^
Is the new stuff written by the original writers?
some old people from bioware working on this game but i have no idea who, the only one i know is the Founder of Beamdog/Overhaul Games Trent Oster.
Here something about him:
Ive been in game development for the last sixteen years, the vast majority working at BioWare as a Project Director. I started my career as an independent developer, creating a shareware title called Blasteroids 3D. As we wrapped work up on Blasteroids we formed a new company called Bioware. Initially there were six equal shareholders, but over time that fell to five and then two of us broke off and formed a company called Pyrotek Game Studios. Pyrotek lasted a whopping year or so and then I rejoined BioWare. During my second BioWare stint, I worked on Baldurs Gate, lead the development of Neverwinter Nights and its expansions, worked for two years as the Director of Technology and lead the development on the Eclipse Engine (which powers Dragon Age). I also started a new and exciting project which failed to survive the recession. EA: Edmonton (BioWare) and I parted ways in June 2009 and I think were both better for it.
but he is not the only one, here sth about Overhaul Games
"We are Overhaul Games. since we got our start at Bioware we've made a few games, met a few friends, and now we're back working on the games we love. For years we've wanted to continue our journey on Baldur's Gate, and now after months negotiations we get to do just that.
We're located in Edmonton along fashionable Whyte Avenue, down the street from the original Bioware office"
maybe Overhaul Games is more Bioware than Bioware itself xD
I see, thanks. At least they worked on the game. It doesn't seem like those in charge of the dialogues and plot are in though. Let's hope for the best.
Anyone know if Bioware still has the rights for the Infinity Engine or did that go to Atari or EA?
It would be great if they get Drew Karpyshyn after he left Bioware if they make BG3, but i belive he will never ever write Storys for Games again *cry*
We will see what we get, maybe we will get new content as big as a new Addon. A good team can make alot of new content in 1,5 years with the tools today for an old 2D Game. I hope we will get this Content.
And the infinite Engine, mhhh the rights of all games based on this Engine belongs to Atari. So, i would think the engine itself would belong to Atari too.
SerArthurDayne
Member
The scope of the new content seems to be quite small based on what is advertised- new adventure and a new party member. If they really added hours of new content I imagine they would play it up a lot more. Hopefully I am wrong. It is possible that they consider Tales of the Sword Coast to be an "adventure" and by that standard, that would be a considerable amount of new content. It just is not the way I read it.
Also, the amount is not necessarily tied to the quality, and whether any of these people worked on the original it is impossible to really judge the work we will receive until we get it, or if we get a resume that says- I did this on this game.
SerArthurDayne
Member
It will be $10 or less, introduce new people to the game, and its success will determine what amount of new content we get in future games such as BG2EE, as well as whether we will get future games like Planescape: Torment and BG3. I would recommend you check out Trent Oster's Twitter, as he is very open about what is going on, what is definite, and what is still up in the air.
Admittedly the enhancements don't sound that great in scope. But from what I understand it is still in development. The announcement promised "modern" updates to the game and engine, while a post a short while ago in this thread indicated the PC version is largely unchanged aside from higher resolution support.
https://twitter.com/#!/trentoster
edit: Just two hours ago he promised a major overhaul to the PC UI, and that future enhancements will be rolled out in time. I assume he means announcements, but I guess he could mean post-release updates.
Admittedly the enhancements don't sound that great in scope. But from what I understand it is still in development. The announcement promised "modern" updates to the game and engine, while a post a short while ago in this thread indicated the PC version is largely unchanged aside from higher resolution support.
https://twitter.com/#!/trentoster
edit: Just two hours ago he promised a major overhaul to the PC UI, and that future enhancements will be rolled out in time. I assume he means announcements, but I guess he could mean post-release updates.
What needs to be 'tweaked' about the visuals exactly? The visuals on the original game still look quite beautiful at high resolution. Arguably the only thing that could be redone are character sprites and that is highly debatable among some people.
I own 3 copies of the game and I wouldn't hesitate putting down more money for an iPad version as long as they don't break it. If it worked as intended on an iPad and wasn't anything more than the original game it would still be worth it. Why? Because it's Baldur's Gate.
That alone makes it worthwhile, then.