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Bangladesh building collapse death toll passes 1000

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this is completely the construction companies' fault, trying to use cheaper and weaker construction materials.

i feel bad for those dead and injured, as well as their families.
 
this is completely the construction companies' fault, trying to use cheaper and weaker construction materials.

i feel bad for those dead and injured, as well as their families.
Some blame definitely falls on those managers the resumed work so quickly.
I have to wonder what if those managers had waited for a proper safety inspection.
What if that inspection said the building was unsafe, but it did not collapse?
What if all the people were saved? Would they be spared firing only for PR concerns?

Terrible. I hope the families are helped as much as possible.
 
The workshops produced clothes for Mango, Benetton, Primark, Matalan y Bonmarche according to AFP and the Financial Times.
 
Ethical clothing is hard to do unless you buy fair trade or follow am ethical clothing accreditation in your country. Even Made in the USA is not a guarantee, since sweatshops in Saipan qualify for that label.

Vintage, goodwill or second hand shops is also an option.
 
Update: At least 200 dead
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22289362
A search for survivors is continuing at a building which collapsed in a suburb of the Bangladeshi capital, Dhaka, killing at least 200 people.

Police said the factory owners had ignored warnings not to allow their workers into the building after cracks were noticed on Tuesday.

The High Court has summoned the Rana Plaza building owner and senior management staff of the factories to appear before judges on 30 April, local media report.

The exact number of those trapped is not clear, but accounts from survivors and eyewitnesses suggest there may be hundreds still unaccounted for.

Edward Hertzman, a textiles broker based in New York, told Reuters news agency that pressure from US retailers to keep costs down was in part responsible for unsafe conditions.

"Bangladesh is the longest lead-time country and a difficult country to work in, so the only way it becomes competitive is by offering the lowest [cost]. That's the catch-22," he said.

"If the factories want to raise prices to make up for rising wages and costs, the buyers say: 'Oh why do we want to go to Bangladesh if I could go to China, Pakistan, Cambodia etc for a similar price?"

He said if Western companies really wanted safety standards to improve, they would have to accept that they needed to start paying higher prices.
 
I don't know how much it costs to make clothing, but I don't think this is really creating cheap clothing for us. I think it's just lining these businesses pockets with more money. They go make jeans extremely cheaply in these countries, and take them to America and sell them for $50 a pair.
 
Badly enforced building regulations.

Looks like Seconds from Disaster just got another episode.
The 'Sampoong Department Store collapse' episode immediately jumped to mind. I remember the managers actually leaving the property despite assuring everyone that it was 'safe.' Will be interested to hear if the same thing happened here.
 


So far, 286 bodies had already been handed over to the relatives, he said and added that 23 bodies had been sent to the Dhaka Medical College Hospital as they had started to decay.

The air was heavy at the Savar Bus Stand and Adharchandra School premises with the stench of dead bodies, bdnews24.com Correspondent at the scene reported. Scores were waiting for news of their loved ones holding their pictures in their hands.

Control room officials said rescuers had listed names of 372 people who were still missing.

I feel so sorry for the families of those still trapped.
 
Police arrest owners of collapsed factories
Bangladeshi police say they have arrested two owners of garment factories based at the eight-storey building that collapsed outside the capital this week, killing hundreds of people.

The death toll in the disaster rose to 324 after rescuers removed more bodies - most in a state of decay - from the wreckage.

Dhaka police deputy chief Shyaml Mukherjee says some workers have been pulled out alive as the desperate hunt for survivors continued through the night.

Police have filed a case against two owners for "death due to negligence", he said, after the prime minister said the owners forced the workers to return to work despite cracks having appeared in the building a day earlier.

"We've arrested Bazlus Samad, the chairman of New Wave Buttons and New Wave Style factories, and Mahmudur Rahaman Tapash, a managing director of one of these plants, after midnight," Mr Mukherjee said.

Survivors said the building developed visible cracks on Tuesday evening, but factory bosses had demanded staff return to the production lines despite a police evacuation order.

One manager for the New Wave Styles company, one of the five manufacturers in the building, said the owner had consulted an engineer but then ignored his warnings.

Earlier yesterday, police battled to control huge crowds of angry garment workers protesting over the tragedy, the latest to befall Bangladesh's huge garment sector, which is a big foreign exchange earner for the poor nation.

Widespread anger has been fuelled by revelations that factory bosses forced workers to return to the building on Wednesday.


Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets at the workers who sew clothes for well-known Western brands for as little as $US37 a month after they blocked roads and attacked factories and buses in textile-making districts around Dhaka.


Good piece, thanks for linking.
 
Negligence and improper management of infrastructure is a huge issue in the subcontinent. A bridge, house or a building collapses on its own everyday in India also.
 
Damn. Reminds of the Walmart documentary 'The High Cost of Low Price' where one part a lifelong Walmart loyalist advanced to a high position after many years to a job that had him inspecting factories overseas. He was immediately horrified by what he saw; his illusion shattered, he quit the next day.

Which is ultimately shortsighted and foolish.

These types of jobs are both better than the previous subsistence farming that was there previous and an important step in the life cycle of any industrial economy. One that every industrialized nation has had to go through.

Look at where places like Singapore, Hong Kong, and Korea were 40 years ago compared to where they are now. Once you no longer had to spend all your time providing for you basic needs, you can devote time to relative luxuries like education, and before you know it a place that previously relied on sweatshops is a world economic power.

Now obviously the managers of this factory(and more importantly the incompetent fucks who built it) need to be punished harshly, but I don't agree with boycotting things produced in sweatshops.

I am proud to buy something made in a sweatshop if it means that the workers children don't have to spend all day working to survive and can instead go to school so they don't have to end up working in the same place. It doesn't matter that I'd find the conditions appalling, what matters to me is if I'm making the situation better or worse. If it's between my money going to an American robot or an Asian human being, I know what I'm choosing every time.

Given the historical precedents, buying something from someone has done much more to improve people's lives than all the charity and philanthropy in the world.
 
Horrible way to go, especially in a semi-crushed/trapped scenario. This April is terrible. When are we getting that subforum for tragedies? :(
 
I am proud to buy something made in a sweatshop if it means that the workers children don't have to spend all day working to survive and can instead go to school so they don't have to end up working in the same place.
That's one huge "if". Many sweatshops do employ children so they're not going to school and have already ended up working in the same place.
 
A mod should change the thread title to reflect the shocking new death toll. Where are the internet detectives and activists now to spread the names faces of those who are responsible for factories like this?
 
A mod should change the thread title to reflect the shocking new death toll. Where are the internet detectives and activists now to spread the names faces of those who are responsible for factories like this?

I dunno about that but there owners face was all over the news here at least when he got caught trying to escape to India.
 
I dunno about that but there owners face was all over the news here at least when he got caught trying to escape to India.
The owner of this particular joint was just a small part of the larger problem. It's us consumers in the west and the companies that use the services of people like him that are the big problem. It's too easy to just say oh yeah the owner and engineers are going to jail and be done with it. People need to feel responsible and given the shortness of this thread, it's clear we do not feel in any way responsible.
 
Urgh. Listening to radio current affairs show this evening and they made a point that consumers seem to care more about where their eggs are coming from more than where their clothes are.
 
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