I think DX11 has more of a difference indoors than in the city. In the museum, for example, the colors look much better to me, and the HBAO is leaps and bounds better than the shitty SSAO. Since I can't get a constant 60fps no matter what I try, this is one of those times where I just max out my settings, make tweaks in the ini like turning on sub-surface scattering and 4k shadows, turn the AA up, and just lock it at 30fps.
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When's the last time you updated the game? They released a patch to fix that issue. It was in the release notes.
also did you ever post your pc specs?
XOMTOR
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I admit, I guessed wrong. Now in areas of tessellation, you'll of course see some differences. Unfortunately, the performance hit and general smoothness of the game hardly seem worth it.
It seems to remove some of the bloom which is a good thing personally. You still get the bloom on the large lights on the walls and such but at least Catwoman's skin doesn't glow when near fire and bright lights.
I honestly can't decide which I prefer. I appreciate the effect they were going for with the DOF, but they've slathered it on pretty think. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be a way to tone it down any.
XOMTOR
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Are you not able to maintain 60 fps even under DX9 with everything maxed? As far as DOF being different under DX11, according to devs, there are only 3 specific differences between the 2 API's in Arkham City. Speaking of sub-surface scattering, I tried enabling it in the INI and I couldn't notice any difference. It's set to 'False" by default I believe.
I finished the game, but had very strange performance in one particular fight, near the end of the game. It's the
. The first time I went in, as the fight got more complex performance plummeted, until it must have been in the single-digits. The second time around it also dropped, but remained barely playable.
This with the DX11 patch. Outside of the fight, I had no hitches on a 560 Ti and i5 2500k, 16G RAM (not 60 frames, but never below 30 either).
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
second visit to the steel mill, with the trains
This with the DX11 patch. Outside of the fight, I had no hitches on a 560 Ti and i5 2500k, 16G RAM (not 60 frames, but never below 30 either).
Has anyone else had a similar experience?
Is UE3's use of DOF the same in both DX9 and 11? It looks less like a blur effect to me and more like actual DOF.
And no, I even turned vsync off and, looking one way, I'll get 120fps, then when I turn and look at any sort of open area, it goes straight to the 30s and 40s. It's jarring as all hell.
I turned FRAPS on this evening to see what my framerates was going to be like post patch. Despite forcing triple buffering + vsync via d3doverrider, I noticed my frame rate drop from the mid 50s to 30 on more than one occasion. That's exactly what I'd expect to see if I was only using vsync alone.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
XOMTOR
Member
Ouch, that would be a pain in the ass for sure. Can't believe how broken this game is for so many people. Fortunately, my framerate is stable at 60 fps although I may get the occasional dip to 52-55 when flying between areas, say from Park Row to Entertainment Mile. That's DX9 of course. I guess for reference: 1920x1080, 4xMSAA + FXAA, all launcher settings max + shadow tweaks, PhysX off.
Anyway, just thought I'd post a quick comparison with DOF on and off. Sorry about any compression, they're Steam uploads but it's just to illustrate the difference.
drhankmccoyphd
Member
How do i purchase the costume pack if I have the steam version?
I dunno, I usually don't like DOF (or super intense DOF) in my games but yikes I really don't like it off according to those screenshots.
It's on the Steam registry but they haven't allowed us to buy it yet. It'll be there soon, but it's weird since it's already up on GFWL.
2500k @ 4.4 GHZ, 580GTX (slightly OC) and 8GB Ram.
Using BoobPhysics101's suggested tweaks. Running at 1080p, DX9 mode everything maxed, x4 MSAA and no physX. Getting pretty consistent 60FPS... some odd drops looking at certain areas. This pretty normal? I tried the DX11 benchmark and I have a hard time telling the difference and the performance hit is huge (average 40 instead of 60).
Using BoobPhysics101's suggested tweaks. Running at 1080p, DX9 mode everything maxed, x4 MSAA and no physX. Getting pretty consistent 60FPS... some odd drops looking at certain areas. This pretty normal? I tried the DX11 benchmark and I have a hard time telling the difference and the performance hit is huge (average 40 instead of 60).
I finished the game tonight. I think that the strangest performance issue I had with it was occasionally the graphics would seize up entirely, just a total freeze. It would last for 2-3 seconds and then everything would come back and be fine. I don't know what that was all about.
i5 @ 2500k,
4GB RAM
GTX 560ti
I last updated on Monday (I think?) when the main patch hit to sort the DX11 issues, and I have Steam set to auto updating so I can't imagine I've missed anything smaller since then. All Steam files are validated. The glitch is happening after the Batarang sequence. The batarang sequence prompts the next cutscene
where Talia leaves and Ra's Al Ghul explains that he's used the Lazaru pit too much, where Batman then leaves
XOMTOR
Member
Agreed. It actually can look better off in some instances, however having it on certainly hides the crappy skybox they used. When I play on my HDTV, it does look better than those screenshots due to the much better conrast and black levels.
Anyway, I'm keeping it on for now but I just posted the INI option for those who may prefer it off. It's too bad the DOF effect isn't a bit more subtle.
I get that, too. Its happening even more often now. It really sucks, its starting to freeze for 3 seconds or more, then resumes, then freezes again, etc. Its really, really annoying. Only happens in outdoors and the subway (which is connected to the outdoors), so I'm assuming that its some kind of streaming bug.
Man I have lost all hope in getting to play this game. It's been two weeks and I STILL can't get the game to see that I've logged in, even though I am very much logged in. GFWL should be illegal.
EDIT: So wait, signing in on GFWL is bound to the CONTROLLER YOU ARE USING?! Who's bright fucking idea was that? Especially on PC?!
EDIT: So wait, signing in on GFWL is bound to the CONTROLLER YOU ARE USING?! Who's bright fucking idea was that? Especially on PC?!
Are you fucking kidding me? They didn't fix the random save deleting bug from arkham asylum (they never fixed it in that game either)? Holy shit rocksteady, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Yeah, I get that too (In DX9 mode). Doesn't happen too often, but on several occasions the pause lasted so long it looked like the game has hung.
TheExplodingHead
Banned
So is it pretty normal for me to be getting around 40-60fps maximum 28-34fps minimum with everything maxed with DX11/Tessellation turned on with a i7 965/GTX 580? This game in the last few hours just took a massive shit in performance for me, also had to turn off PhysX because I was crashing all over the place...
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
seems like a damn good performance man
TheExplodingHead
Banned
Well to be a bit more clear it's sort of a jarring 50fps-30fps in the span of about half a second, then it jumps back up and down at random. Vsync is on, so maybe that's part of the issue. Mainly get a solid 50-60fps indoors, but outside it's all over the place. Just seems like with my setup it should be running a lot better than this.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
I have a similar setup, ATI build, all maxed minus Physx because it causes all kinds of crashes, and framerate takes a nose dive for some strange reason when i'm strolling around Amusement Mile while going smooth as silk in every other place. I'll just deal with it, I guess we're lucky we can run DX11
Tessellation around bricks/torn up pavement really stresses the framerate. It's poorly implemented like it was in Crysis 2. Just turn it to Normal or off all together.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
oh, it's more a two-three seconds annoyance, really. Maybe the next ATI driver will improve over that
Kabuki Waq
Member
is there any way to fix the random Crashes? I am running it on windows 7 64 bit on a gtx580. The game randomly crashes to desktop. Is this a greenmangaming problem?
TheExplodingHead
Banned
Try turning off PhysX if you haven't already, fixed my crashes.
Kabuki Waq
Member
damn really? I wanted to experience the physx.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
There's displacement mapping everywhere. Snow, pavement, brickwork, trees, LOD objects. We're looking at unigine levels of tesselation in an actual real game environment.
Black_Stride
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Download them from the net for free and install them yourself....i dont know why anyone would pay for costumes in this game when they are essentially texture mods which PC gamers should be used to doing free of charge.
The modded mesh ones maybe, but they arent worth the price seriously.
What?
What are you talking about?
chickdigger802
Banned
god damn I hate how fps is so crazy in this game.
Indoors I get average 70-90. Outdoors I get 30s with random freezes for 4 secs and what not.
Only way I can get outdoors playable is dropping graphics to high >.>"
sigh. pc games (more like I want a new rig, but have no money)
Indoors I get average 70-90. Outdoors I get 30s with random freezes for 4 secs and what not.
Only way I can get outdoors playable is dropping graphics to high >.>"
sigh. pc games (more like I want a new rig, but have no money)
All the costumes in the DLC pack are modded meshes. The closest thing to the original B:AC Batman is probably the 1970s one by the look of it and even then it has more than enough differences between the two.
IonicSnake
Banned
For EU people that still haven't bought this, play.com have the game for 22 right now.
PS3: http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/27597591/-/Product.html
360: http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4...archstring=batman+arkham+city&urlrefer=search
PS3: http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/27597591/-/Product.html
360: http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4...archstring=batman+arkham+city&urlrefer=search
mocolostrocolos
Member
Finished the game yesterday.
I liked Arkham Asylum more than AC, but still a great game.
Finished the story and only completed the
I liked Arkham Asylum more than AC, but still a great game.
Finished the story and only completed the
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d00d3n
Member
This is a much better game than AssRev in many ways, but the pc port is damn sloppy in comparison. A core i5 3.3GHz, 8 gigs of ram, geforce gtx 580 setup should be able to run this game without a hitch. The graphics in arkham city are nice, but there is no reason for this game to be the first to force me to lower resolution and detail settings to get a good performance.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
yes, did the same for me. I was getting Direct3D 11 crash which i don't even know what it is and black screen lockout. Disabled and runs fine
evil solrac v3.0
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XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Odd, my i7/570 rig hasn't had any real issues at all. Definitely not in DX9, and not really seeing any on DX11 post-patch. Though my i7 is OC'd to 4.4 GHz, 570's OC'd as well. I have twice as much RAM, but I don't think that matters any.
Ouch, that would be a pain in the ass for sure. Can't believe how broken this game is for so many people. Fortunately, my framerate is stable at 60 fps although I may get the occasional dip to 52-55 when flying between areas, say from Park Row to Entertainment Mile. That's DX9 of course. I guess for reference: 1920x1080, 4xMSAA + FXAA, all launcher settings max + shadow tweaks, PhysX off.
Anyway, just thought I'd post a quick comparison with DOF on and off. Sorry about any compression, they're Steam uploads but it's just to illustrate the difference.
poor catwoman
Any way to force individual PhysX settings? I can run the game at Very High, with FXAA on medium at 1920x1080 and get over 60FPS indoors and consistently over 40FPS outside.
However, as soon as I turn on Physx, certain effects bring my FPS crashing down. Thing is, not all of them do. All I want is the volumetric smoke and the flying paper, the rest is what takes its toll but scenes with the former run fine. Really wish the Physx settings were more customisable and not just limited to 'Medium' and 'High'.
However, as soon as I turn on Physx, certain effects bring my FPS crashing down. Thing is, not all of them do. All I want is the volumetric smoke and the flying paper, the rest is what takes its toll but scenes with the former run fine. Really wish the Physx settings were more customisable and not just limited to 'Medium' and 'High'.
Aren't the costumes available as Steam DLC though? So wouldn't downloading them for free be the equivalent of pirating the DLC?
I mean, the DLC might not be protected where Valve/whoever could detect it, but it still seems like a risky idea for some costumes, to me.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I've had that occasionally, too. Seemed to mostly (but not exclusively) happen in the city.
I've had that when exploring the open world - usually I see the loading symbol spinning in the corner though and just assumed that the engine needed to quickly load in some assets as I had been moving too quickly across the map.