Putonahappyface
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22.:25 minutes in and they certainly did promise crazy destruction! Also your impressive 128 player feat has been trumped at 34:50.
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Battlefield 2042 - Angry Review
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EDMIX
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They simply could be talking about tanks going into structures bud...
That sounds like PR talk to describe the new physics and advancements to the destruction, by default, you can't do what is being done in another BF title to this degree the way its being done.
Thus, its not below anything, it is by default above the others. Is it game changing? To a degree, is it "insane levels"? Not really, but you expected "insane levels" they never fucking told you anything like that....like zero.
I'm sure they can, but its why I asked for that info as looking at it, nothing is really being claimed that isn't done, simply you assuming "insane levels", they have no ode to NOT market a feature, you simply assumed something that was never stated.
yea I wouldn't do any of that, I'd need to see it myself and really check out some analysis and test it out vs "said", people say lots of things as some even stated it had zero destruction, so I get why you might think that, but with how hyperbolic and exaggerative the gaming community happens to be, I'd need to play it and see it fully vs said.
By default all the BF titles have more advance physics and destruction then the last, one can debate how much exist in the game or how many structures etc, but I don't think it makes sense to debate the actual physics and tech or the feature in general, as you can not drive a tank thru a structure 100% in the past BF titles, BFV you are able to only the sides, same with BF1, yet those are the titles people even argued having lessor, when by default it was doing more then the past titles, as in factually you can't do that in the other titles.
You can ask for more and I'd agree, but I'd never agree with it being "worse" as it doesn't make sense when some of those exact features don't exist in the past titles...
As for the cherry picked videos for 2042, not being able to destroy certain aspects is not based on them being unable to do that, because clearly you can see footage of that existing in 2042, its because by design they don't want to have it leveled to allow for fair cover, yet this exact thing was done in all BF titles, no BF title exist where you can level THE WHOLE MAP, thats never happened and you can find footage of all BF titles where buildings can't go down, cause that is by design that they don't want it going down on certain control points...
Its like me showing you the control point on Arica Harbour in BFBC2 or the bridge and saying wow the destruction is "worse than previous BF titles", sir...what BF titles existing where 100% could be destroyed? Are you sure you are looking at less? Are you sure you are not simply seeing the same design that limited it to certain structures to a allow some fairness for cover? I recall someone even saying that in Portal on some video as the fail to realize those same elements couldn't be destroyed in the original Bad Company 2, but that isn't based on tech of today, that is based on design of today, they made a choice not to allow ALL things to be destroyed.
The only way I see such a thing even being added, is thru Portal thru some editor or map editor or something like that where its just a custom thing, but thats based on the degree of what we want to see destroyed, not based on lack of advancement of the actual feature itself, but I digress.
So I can see how someone can assume such a thing, but limited destruction has always existed in BF by design to be competitive, it was never 100%.
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EDMIX
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smh, not sure what you mean and I see no reason to personal attack or get triggered simply cause we disagree on something or something is being explained to you on factually how that worked before.
No BF title had 100% destruction and those PR comments are simply to explain the new features like going thru structures with tanks. Nothing to do with "EA shares" or you feelings or something odd like that, either it happened or it didn't. Those comments don't state "insane levels" you merely assumed that and went off of what people said vs looking it up, playing the game or even the past games. So...I don't know what to tell you on that one other then I get how one would assume that simply going off of what others say.
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Kenpachii
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This dice, they promise crazy destruction every battlefield and its just a few walls here and there and that's it.
EDMIX
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lol agreed.
From what I recall, they always state something about destruction, yet the advances they are talking about exist, but are not some insane level
Like the tank going in the house in BF1, but partly and then advancing a bit more in BFV, then more in 2042 to the point of going thru structures complete with different physics, its always been a gradual thing so I've never taken their PR to mean some massive insane thing, simply more then the last.
Other times their comments are about some scripted thing like what we saw in BF4 and in 2042. Unless they are saying some exact specific thing, I don't pay much attention to that wild PR, their job is to market. Any new advancement, they will argue will be the wildest thing lol
Nope
22:25 - That is a proof of a concept built in a grey box environment, an idea of what could be possible in the game. They clearly didn't reach that target they set but thats not the same as promising anything.
34:50 - Im guessing you didn't actually play MAG. Its 32 vs 32 battles broken up in 4 different map quadrants. You almost never actually encountered people from other quadrants. Theres also the fact that the game had no destruction and almost no vehicles of any kind. On top of that the core gameplay was mediocre and graphically it looked bad even by PS3 standards. Its in no way comparable to BF2042.
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EDMIX
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Agreed. I think they are just looking at the player count and ignoring all else. In terms of the building in that concept video, without deep context, for all we know they are just showing off physics of the game and not actually some exact location. I don't know if I can see such a clip as a promise as I feel lots of what has been stated thus far as be wild assumptions and exaggerations. No one at DICE or EA is making any fucking claim that they can be sued on like "xyz" will happen if you do this or that, someone is simply looking at some proof of concept video and making up that this magical thing was promised with no context as to what that "promise" actually is.
Its why I was even asking for some of those exact comments as I don't recall any talks about specifics in terms of claims made that never happened. It just sounds like them marketing new physics and advancements in destruction....thats it. Anyone assuming some insane thing did so on their own as I don't see enough to argue a promise or a claim or anything of the sort.
So I think with some next gen only BF, we'll see them do more, but they are likely not going to make claims that can't be backed up, they'll just say buzz words like "advanced destruction" or "game changing destruction" etc. How someone views that is on their own.
EA: New Battlefield Game Will Have "Game-Changing Destruction," Will Be Showcased Throughout Summer
EA says the new Battlefield game will have "game-changing" destruction, and will be featured throughout the summer.
mp1st.com
So I'd say driving a tank completely thru a house and not simply around it, is game changing and offers something different that can't be done in the other BF titles, that is enough for them to simply state that no matter to what degree.
Their job is to market something new happening, not downplay their own game.
So I see this as, who am I to argue its not game changing compared to the last BF titles, when this shit can't be done in the last BF titles?
PandemiaPorcina
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I prefer to play the games and judge for myself are you bankrupt or something?