I'm with you, but emulation has its place too. It's nothing to poo-poo on.
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Bayonetta 2, Star Fox Zero & Mario Kart 8 running at 60fps with Cemu's latest version
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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I'm with you, but emulation has its place too. It's nothing to poo-poo on.
broncobuster
Banned
sixteen-bit
Member
This is so exciting!
eyeball_kid
Member
Emulation certainly has its place, but I was always a bit uncomfortable with a project that emulates current hardware being sold in stores. We could argue all day and night about the impact of its existence, but the fact remains that it allowed PC gamers to download some torrents and play current Wii U titles (to varying degrees) on their PC instead of buying in to the Nintendo ecosystem. Even if people purchased games legally, there's still reasons Nintendo would want and benefit from people owning the hardware.
Granted, this is mostly moot now that Wii U production has officially ended, and it will probably be hard to emulate the Switch fully considering the motion controls.
jediyoshi
Member
It's a week early for donators. The emulator is free.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Its going to happen.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Ok as someone who knows nothing about this:
How does one rip WiiU discs on to a PC?
And regarding Bayonetta 2, how well does it run/what problems does it have?
Edit: actually, is there is a list for how well games run?
Seems Bayo 2 has audio problems?
There are a couple I'd like to check out but Bayo 2 would be the main one for me.
How does one rip WiiU discs on to a PC?
And regarding Bayonetta 2, how well does it run/what problems does it have?
Edit: actually, is there is a list for how well games run?
Seems Bayo 2 has audio problems?
There are a couple I'd like to check out but Bayo 2 would be the main one for me.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well Bayo 2 also runs at like 1.5 game speed as well unless it was fixed in this build.
jediyoshi
Member
This hasn't been the case for at least the last 6-7 versions.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I prefer emulation 4K over native 720p
TheSpoiler
Member
AFAIK you can use your actual game discs. And as for emulating current hardware, why draw the line there? Wouldn't software be more relevant?
lvl99 Pixel
Member
only if its not buggy and the framerate is solid, and no sound glitches.
Dolphin still cant run certain games properly.
SpiceMelange
Member
I'm looking at how to dump Wii U games and it's like 600kbs, would take like a day per game. I'm I looking at an outdated dumping method or is this the fastest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjeFi_KwOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjeFi_KwOQ
badcrumble
Member
Damn, Cemu is gonna be the definitive Breath of the Wild platform lol
360 I wouldn't know, ps3 though you have to emulate the cell processor, good luck with that.
Also Cemu has a patreon where they receive thousands of dollars a month to work, so they have incentive to better the emulator. If ps3 or 360 had the same support we would see strides there too. People complain about closed source and that open source is better but I never see anything noteworthy come from emulators. Doesn't the N64 still not have a decent emulator or did Project 64 get better?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
The only version I've used was the last released version and it currently still happens to me.
LordRaptor
Member
No, to legitimately play WiiU games in an emulator you need to own a WiiU and the respective title.
Basileus777
Member
What kind of CPU do you actually need for this? Something more specific than "good" or "decent" would be helpful.
TLZ
Banned
Calm the fuck down and do some reading.
Jawbreaker
Member
Any modern Intel i5 or i7 K series CPU with overclocked cores (4.5GHz is what mine are running at). The higher your individual cores, the better.
jediyoshi
Member
Make sure you're using Timer -> Host based timer. Multiple games had game speed issues and they were all fixed around the same time.
TheSpoiler
Member
You know what?
You are right! You can't use Wii U discs. You can, however, rip your existing discs.
If you wanna talk about legalities, go whine somewhere else please.
Crimsonsky
Member
The real answer is the better the CPU the better your performance. The secondary answer would be, it depends on the game. XCX for instance you'll see people giving you gameplay of the starter area. My ivy bridge i7 gets 30 fps there all day. However step into town and you can cut that in half. 15 in most areas of NLA with some areas going into the 20's. I'm overclocked to 5ghz. So the reason why the answers are vague is there isn't a short and fast answer that is true. You could have a i7 7700k and you might blast any of the Mario games(so do I) and you may still chug on XCX. It's not comprehensive enough yet to give a solid answer.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Alright, that seems to have fixed it thanks! Framerate has taken a dip but I imagine the performance enhancement of this build will even that out.
Schopenhauerian
Member
Its good to see some folks in this thread have given this some thought. Ill go ahead and chime in to say that if the devs were to release a build of Cemu (as well as functional, game-specific graphics pack enhancements) for Breath of the Wild within close proximity to the launch of the Switch, that decision would quite clearly be more ethically dubious than the typical case, with respect to emulation development in general. From an ethical point of view, the devs could improve their position by voluntarily holding back for a while on releasing Zelda-specific stuff, but its not clear if theyve given any thought to the ethical issues involved (but then again I havent been following closely, perhaps they have indeed given these matters some thought).
rottendevice
Member
No one is really mentioning how you get a WiiU like controller going with this.
Can you tether a real WiiU controller to work with the emulator?
Really exciting to see this progress, regardless.
Can you tether a real WiiU controller to work with the emulator?
Really exciting to see this progress, regardless.
The mandatory installation may throw a spanner into the works. The only other such game is Watch Dogs, which currently doesn't work at all.
Diablohead
Member
Of a game uses the touchscreen you can click on the screen.
Most games worth playing on the Wii U don't require the Gamepad to finish.
Buy and dump the digital version. Problem solved.
People are playing with Xbox 360 controller i didnt see anyone doing with Wii U gamepad.
If anyone touch heavy you can play with xbox + mouse
-shadow-
Member
I recommend trying to do it with a wired connection. It's still not that fast, but whenever I do it it's just under 1100kbps
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
I've wondered that as well. Emulation is tough, but it's not a super powerful console, and using an Nvidea GPU might make it easier to emulate since Nvidia gpus are most prevalent among PC gamers. No idea if that's true or not though, would just seem to make intuitive sense that emulating a GPU that's more similar to what the emulator is running on would be easier than emulating a console that had a completely proprietary GPU.
It runs pretty well on WiiU. That was the only place I played it though. Seemed to hold 60 most of the time.
ss_lemonade
Member
You never know. I mean, weren't 30fps gamecube games like Mario Sunshine patched to run at 60 with Dolphin?
Hey man, I agree with you in some respects. But on the other hand, your stance is sort of fighting against natural progress. We should be celebrating the engineering feat that the CEMU authors are able to pull off rather than condemning them for investing their time in a project that ultimately has no financial upside.
I would never play Wii U games on anything other than a Wii U. That's just my preference. But piracy can happen on native hardware too. The presence of an emulator really isn't unethical in the grand argument.
Moreover, if, for example, Neo Geo emulators never came out back in the day (even while it was still getting regular releases), I never would have been able to discover many great games coming to arcades at the same time. They simply were not available to play and I had no way of obtaining Neo Geo hardware back then. It was literally not sold at retail where I lived and the only way to obtain it was through insane markups and preowned.
So, I never could have become a fan of SNK had I not pirated their software when I was a kid. Now, I support their efforts by buying their re-releases (even though many of them run poorly). And they have a devoted fan out of me for life.
Even though you may not want to admit this, piracy can create future paying customers.
Ah, good idea!
PCSX2 has the handicap of a much more foreign and complex architecture to emulate.
I think people need to give it a bit of a break sometimes lol.
Great thing you are not Nintendo then.
What a stupid thought , cancelling a game and giving middle figgers 13M people bought Wii U.
Right right.
Unknown Soldier
Member
This is a brilliant idea, telling 14 million people who are actual customers that bought a Wii U to fuck off so they can give the finger to like 1,000 people who actually have used Cemu.
The hysteria that goes on about piracy is both hilarious and mind-boggling sometimes.
CouchMaster
Member
If I had a powerful PC I'd rather buy a Nintendo console, its the only combination with minimum overlap of library.
Drop Resident Evil VII, people can play it free on PC.