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Bayonetta 3 on Switch - DF Tech Review - A Great Game With Polish & Performance Issues
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Mister Wolf
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They pulled a "Scalebound" on Nintendo.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Ryujinx save us.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I mean, when he says "it can look great but more often than not it looks like this" or whatever, I wasn't even sure what he meant? It just looked the same as in any video, just instead of actually playing the game as you tend to do, stopping to scrutinize each piece that makes the formerly seen whole.
Especially having seen that same part in the recent video showcasing the summon controls and seeing how destructible all the buildings there are and how the vehicles are knocked around and explode as the massive monsters or whatever those are called merely walk around without even fighting.
Naturally frame drops aren't great and the thing I find most jarring in games is the pop in evident here too. When you actually are within an area as above the draw distance of even small objects seem fine but when you're on your way to such an area it seems to get populated very closely/abruptly.
I also share his dislike for dithering, but somehow it seems quite popular even on other platforms nowadays, I didn't see much hate for that in Nioh 1/2 or Resident Evil/games with Capcom's new REngine or before when MT Framework (MHW) employed that technique pretty much everywhere too.
As for emulating this, I mean, running it at 4K on a monitor in your face will only make the pop in and muddy textures even more apparent, though proper full framerate and input lag (which more often than not is not the case with Switch emulation on the average gaming PC) would be very nice...
Especially having seen that same part in the recent video showcasing the summon controls and seeing how destructible all the buildings there are and how the vehicles are knocked around and explode as the massive monsters or whatever those are called merely walk around without even fighting.
Naturally frame drops aren't great and the thing I find most jarring in games is the pop in evident here too. When you actually are within an area as above the draw distance of even small objects seem fine but when you're on your way to such an area it seems to get populated very closely/abruptly.
I also share his dislike for dithering, but somehow it seems quite popular even on other platforms nowadays, I didn't see much hate for that in Nioh 1/2 or Resident Evil/games with Capcom's new REngine or before when MT Framework (MHW) employed that technique pretty much everywhere too.
As for emulating this, I mean, running it at 4K on a monitor in your face will only make the pop in and muddy textures even more apparent, though proper full framerate and input lag (which more often than not is not the case with Switch emulation on the average gaming PC) would be very nice...
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Andrew Evenstar
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will also be getting this for steam deck, nintendo should release an expansion pack for the switch like they did for n64 -
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Um, Deck absolutely cannot emulate Switch at any better settings as of now, often much worse settings and performance at that, so what are you gaining with that exactly? Do you even have a Deck yet? Maybe you can cancel your purchase intention if you really thought it does things like thatwill also be getting this for steam deck, wil nintendo should release an expansion pack for the switch like they did for n64 -
Native games may look & run much better than some Switch ports but that's what a 5 year tech jump does. Less than stellar performance doesn't make it PS2 level given much more modern techniques, a slow paced far from the craze of Bayonettta PS2 game to use a few would be the <20fps SOTC.
Not to mention the PS2's notorious image quality/resolution/texture res budget (that some talented devs did work miracles around but still) even for its time compared to contemporary systems. Suffice to say Switch far exceeds it all. Might as well say it looks like an N64 game if being that dumb.
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oddly enough nintendo could actually download more power with the switch, allowing users to reach full clocks, on the original docked switches could have a 20% performance boost and like an 80% boost on 2019 and later units, handheld boosts would be even better just allowing users to unlock clocks at their own risk. personally, I'm fine with bayonetta 3s performance just like I'm fine with 1080p 30 fps returning on ps5 xsxwill also be getting this for steam deck, nintendo should release an expansion pack for the switch like they did for n64 -
Higher peak clocks on the mariko chips, reaches like .8 tf or something around there, more ram too
hemo memo
Gold Member
Platinum response to the game performance:
Platinum after the game sells like hot cake:
digoutyoursoul
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ZoukGalaxy
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Could we please give a break to CD Projekt ? Damn it !
I'm whipping myself as a punishment
I'm whipping myself as a punishment
TLZ
Banned
I'd love that and so would a lot of people, but we all know it's not happening. At the very least they're giving us the option to play on TV. Better than nothing.
Hopefully the next Switch would be at least as powerful as the Steam Deck, which is already selling for 399.
Keihart
Member
eh
Aesthetically, the game looks beautifull, full of great designs, animations and effects, the IQ is garbage tho.
That being said, i can hardly believe this shit runs on switch as good as it does, P* pushed this console to its limits.
I'm loving the game and i enjoy how it looks, i just recently replayed Bayo 1 on PC and 2 on switch, 3 looks miles better imo, but i'm not a snob of IQ and usually care more for quality of animations and aesthetics in general.
Bayo 1 has this problem where background and characters sometimes meld together, Bayo 2 not so much but on 3 the hues are always very intentional, shit doesn't blend together anymore, which is a relieve since it makes it easier to track the action, and action the game has.
Aesthetically, the game looks beautifull, full of great designs, animations and effects, the IQ is garbage tho.
That being said, i can hardly believe this shit runs on switch as good as it does, P* pushed this console to its limits.
I'm loving the game and i enjoy how it looks, i just recently replayed Bayo 1 on PC and 2 on switch, 3 looks miles better imo, but i'm not a snob of IQ and usually care more for quality of animations and aesthetics in general.
Bayo 1 has this problem where background and characters sometimes meld together, Bayo 2 not so much but on 3 the hues are always very intentional, shit doesn't blend together anymore, which is a relieve since it makes it easier to track the action, and action the game has.
hemo memo
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Switch 2/Pro can’t come soon enough.
will also be getting this for steam deck, nintendo should release an expansion pack for the switch like they did for n64 -
Deck emulated Switch games run slightly worse than on native hardware
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Performance issues are just the tip of it.
Poor Bayonetta’s cursed with being on toaster hardware, and damn does it flat out look bad. I couldn’t imagine playing this on a TV.
Emulation can’t improve all the shortcuts they took to get performance that bounces all over the place.
Poor Bayonetta’s cursed with being on toaster hardware, and damn does it flat out look bad. I couldn’t imagine playing this on a TV.
Emulation can’t improve all the shortcuts they took to get performance that bounces all over the place.
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hemo memo
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Ftfy
Andrew Evenstar
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it's all good, i'm buying 2 copies, one for switch and one for steam deck to support Platinum against that female activist.
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