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Best Buy vs. Amazon.com for an HDTV

Meier said:
I have a 720p and think it looks great... new tv coming tomorrow is 1080p and I'll be happy to upgrade, but at 26", you'll not notice much of a difference. Samsung is a great brand... I bought a 27" Westinghouse for like $750 or so 2 years ago, so to get a 26" Samsung for $500 is a steal IMO. Was it even less on Black Friday?

I was looking for 32" LCD TV for bedroom. Found Sony Bravia or Samsung 720p for under $500 online and they aren't Black Friday sale. Waiting for them to drop under $400. :lol
 
knitoe said:
I was looking for 32" LCD TV for bedroom. Found Sony Bravia or Samsung 720p for under $500 online and they aren't Black Friday sale. Waiting for them to drop under $400. :lol
If it's between the 32" Sony L4000 and 32" Samsung A450, get the Samsung and avoid the Sony at all costs. If it's the 32" Sony M4000, still go with the Samsung A450.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
For $500, I think you could have bought a 32 inch set.
size is not a big deal to me. I have very limited space and the desk i play on so i had to go that small. i just care about quality and the reviews seemed great for that.

Meier said:
I have a 720p and think it looks great... new tv coming tomorrow is 1080p and I'll be happy to upgrade, but at 26", you'll not notice much of a difference. Samsung is a great brand... I bought a 27" Westinghouse for like $750 or so 2 years ago, so to get a 26" Samsung for $500 is a steal IMO. Was it even less on Black Friday?

Nope it was the same price on BF, $500. I thought it was lowered for black friday but i didnt check on its price for a month or so, due to the fact i didnt think i would be buying a TV this year anymore (financial problems)
 
jamesinclair said:
+1 for amazon.

After buying, check the price every day, anytime it drops email them for a refund.

You can do this for 30 days

Amazon changed their policy. You can't do that anymore for orders after September 1, 2008.
 
jamesinclair said:
+1 for amazon.

After buying, check the price every day, anytime it drops email them for a refund.

You can do this for 30 days
After Sept 1st they no longer allow this.

EDIT: Beaten
 
Firestorm said:
If it's between the 32" Sony L4000 and 32" Samsung A450, get the Samsung and avoid the Sony at all costs. If it's the 32" Sony M4000, still go with the Samsung A450.
What's wrong with the Sony? Contrast ratio and no swivel stand?
 
knitoe said:
Amazon changed their policy. You can't do that anymore for orders after September 1, 2008.
Haha, I emailed Amazon about a TV I bought asking for the refund as they'd lowered the price since I paid for it 2 weeks ago.. Mathu indicated they no longer did that, but still offered me the $26 just the same. :lol
 
Meier said:
Haha, I emailed Amazon about a TV I bought asking for the refund as they'd lowered the price since I paid for it 2 weeks ago.. Mathu indicated they no longer did that, but still offered me the $26 just the same. :lol


Seems some people are getting it to work, but officially they are not doing any price adjusting.
 
Got my 40" 1080p Bravia from Best Buy, added a four year warranty for an extra $100 or whatever it was. They show up at your house and if they can't fix it there they take it and bring it back. Free.

I'm not too sure what Amazon has but that was a clincher for me.
 
Arsenic said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001418XS0/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I got this TV at amazon on black friday. I bought it on impulse. I already have a 52" Sharp Aquos its used for mostly TV and family use. but i purchased this for personal gaming.

but no wim hearing 720 is crap quality? what.

Did i make a good choice? some help.
I recently purchased this:
Samsung T260HD 26-Inch LCD HDTV Monitor and I quite like it since it fulfills the role of both an HDTV and a computer monitor, simplifying my setup considerably. Full 1080p support too. One problem though: the only way to connect older devices that don't support component output or better though is through the RF input.
 
Lots of good advice here.

Main points I would give you:

1) Find the TV at a B&M if possible such as Best Buy - check it out in person. Now remember the display models usually are setup incorrectly and wont display whatever image you are seeing as well as you would at home.
2) Dont buy it there unless they are willing to match Amazon's price. (This is very much YMMV as more often than not they will say no. Remember this is their loss, not yours as Amazon is amazing).
3) I would stick to Sony or Samsung. I've had great experiences with these two.

I just picked up an LN40A750 Samsung to replace my Sony XBR. You might want to look into the 650's or 550 to keep more within your budget.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
No tax and free shipping from Amazon and their customer service is AMAZING. They will bend over backwards for you. Go play with the TV in the store at Best Buy then buy it on Amazon.
:lol
It's funny because it's the best idea ever. I can't bring myself to buying many things in-store anymore because of Amazon's deals.
 
ZealousD said:
Free shipping
No tax
Plus great discounts
If you need it, it's on Amazon

If I didn't already get employee discounts, I'd buy everything from them.
Just so people know, you're still required to pay tax.
 
Slavik81 said:
Just so people know, you're still required to pay tax.

Depending on the state you live in. I don't have to pay tax in my state (Massachusetts).
 
claviertekky said:
What's wrong with the Sony? Contrast ratio and no swivel stand?
The L? Sony doesn't use their newest engine in it. They're just using old tech in it to attract people who just want a cheap TV with the Sony name on it. Same goes for the S series which is the 1080p equivalent. I think the M is supposed to be the equivalent of Samsung's 4 series this year but from what I've heard, CNET and Consumer Reports both put Samsung's 32" A450 ahead of Sony's 32" M4000.
 
morningbus said:
Depending on the state you live in. I don't have to pay tax in my state (Massachusetts).
It's actually the law in your state that online purchases are not taxable but in-store purchases are?

That's very strange and very awesome. Must be annoying for B&M retailers in your state, though.
 
ciaossu said:
:lol
It's funny because it's the best idea ever. I can't bring myself to buying many things in-store anymore because of Amazon's deals.

My friends and I will "price check" each other. When we are in the store ready to buy something, I'll call my best friend and when he answers I say "PRICE CHECK" then he asks me for the model number of what I want to buy and he'll look it up on Amazon.

Then he'll tell me #1 if it's cheaper somewhere else and #2 what the user reviews are and if it's worth it.
 
My only question is: do you own an HD console or Blu-ray player??? If not, it's completely pointless to go HD right now unless if you are planning to pick one of those up as well.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
My friends and I will "price check" each other. When we are in the store ready to buy something, I'll call my best friend and when he answers I say "PRICE CHECK" then he asks me for the model number of what I want to buy and he'll look it up on Amazon.

Then he'll tell me #1 if it's cheaper somewhere else and #2 what the user reviews are and if it's worth it.

:lol That is why I have a phone with an internet connection.

And OP, just go with the Panasonic plasma linked in the first reply. Once you go plasma, you can't go back to LCD. :D
 
Firestorm said:
The L? Sony doesn't use their newest engine in it. They're just using old tech in it to attract people who just want a cheap TV with the Sony name on it. Same goes for the S series which is the 1080p equivalent. I think the M is supposed to be the equivalent of Samsung's 4 series this year but from what I've heard, CNET and Consumer Reports both put Samsung's 32" A450 ahead of Sony's 32" M4000.
What if pricing is an issue though?

I paid $495 on Amazon for the 32L4000. I've yet to see a brand name TV to go down that low.

I could have got a Vizio, but my parents refused since they think it's a no name brand.
 
Does anyone know of any truly fantastic deals for a 26" LCD for my bedroom? I have a nice set for my living room, so I don't need anything fancy. A 720p "value" brand would even suffice, but I'm having trouble finding something priced "to sell". I figure everyone here always finds these great deals and maybe someone may know of one that'd hit the spot.
 
I'm thinking of selling my Pioneer 5080 to a friend and moving to a Pioneer 5020 (1080p). I adore the 5080, but the 9th gen Pioneer panels are going to be their final plasma displays manufactured using the Kuro glass and I don't want to miss out on that.

Amazon has a decent price (Best Buy can't even begin to match it). Everyone seems to suggest that Amazon is a great place to buy a TV from, but I'm wondering how shipping and receiving is handled.

The 5020 is a big TV in a large box. How exactly would the display arrive? I mean, they aren't just going to leave the thing on the porch, right? I bought my 5080 from Plasma Concepts with "white glove" service and they actually brought the TV up stairs (I'm on the 3rd floor) and helped me move everything into place. I can take care of that this time (though I will obviously need the help of a friend), I suppose, but I still want to make sure it is delivered safely.

What can I expect if I decide to order from Amazon?
 
dark10x said:
I'm thinking of selling my Pioneer 5080 to a friend and moving to a Pioneer 5020 (1080p). I adore the 5080, but the 9th gen Pioneer panels are going to be their final plasma displays manufactured using the Kuro glass and I don't want to miss out on that.

Amazon has a decent price (Best Buy can't even begin to match it). Everyone seems to suggest that Amazon is a great place to buy a TV from, but I'm wondering how shipping and receiving is handled.

The 5020 is a big TV in a large box. How exactly would the display arrive? I mean, they aren't just going to leave the damn thing on the porch, right? I bought my 5080 from Plasma Concepts with "white glove" service and they actually brought the TV up stairs (I'm on the 3rd floor) and helped me move everything into place. I can take care of that this time, I suppose, but I still want to make sure it is delivered safely.

What can I expect if I decide to order from Amazon?
You can expect the same service you got from Plasma Concepts. When I had my HDTV delivered from Amazon (actually, from a shipping company they employ), the guy actually took his shoes off before coming in the house because it was raining outside. He brought it into my room and set up the stand and put it on my entertainment center with me. He turned it on to make sure it worked before he left too.
 
CajoleJuice said:
You can expect the same service you got from Plasma Concepts. When I had my HDTV delivered from Amazon (actually, from a shipping company they employ), the guy actually took his shoes off before coming in the house because it was raining outside. He brought it into my room and set up the stand and put it on my entertainment center with me. He turned it on to make sure it worked before he left too.
Really? Wow, that's impressive. Did you pay extra for shipping (the site is claiming free shipping right now)?
 
chriskun said:
My only question is: do you own an HD console or Blu-ray player??? If not, it's completely pointless to go HD right now unless if you are planning to pick one of those up as well.

Wrong. Totally worth it just for DVDs (though make sure you have an upscaling player).
 
Slavik81 said:
It's actually the law in your state that online purchases are not taxable but in-store purchases are?

That's very strange and very awesome. Must be annoying for B&M retailers in your state, though.

You pay sales tax to Amazon.com? Do you live in Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington? Those are the only states, with a few small exceptions, that require Amazon to collect sales tax.

Typically you only have to pay sales tax if the company you're ordering from resides in the same state.

Technically, the buyer is required to pay a use tax to their state on all products shipped to the state. However, most states don't want to waste the time collecting tax on DVDs, so they'll only look for big items like cars or boats.
 
morningbus said:
You pay sales tax to Amazon.com? Do you live in Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington? Those are the only states, with a few small exceptions, that require Amazon to collect sales tax.

Typically you only have to pay sales tax if the company you're ordering from resides in the same state.

Technically, the buyer is required to pay a use tax to their state on all products shipped to the state. However, most states don't want to waste the time collecting tax on DVDs, so they'll only look for big items like cars or boats.

It should have been obvious, he's saying that you're legally obliged to pay taxes on online purchases. The fact that you don't means you're doing something illegal.
 
TheExodu5 said:
It should have been obvious, he's saying that you're legally obliged to pay taxes on online purchases. The fact that you don't means you're doing something illegal.

As illegal as buying something from my neighbor state, New Hampshire, and not reporting the use tax? Sure. Or buying something while overseas? Sure.

But as I said, they typically only come looking for use tax for large purchases, which a TV might be considered.

Anyway, it was a misunderstanding, I saw "tax" and for some reason thought "sales tax," which Amazon does not collect with exception to a few states.
 
dark10x said:
Really? Wow, that's impressive. Did you pay extra for shipping (the site is claiming free shipping right now)?
Yep, free shipping (well, I did give him a tip). Best purchase I've ever made. :D

I should be clear in saying that he set up the stand the TV came with, he didn't put it on a wall mount or anything. Pretty sure they don't do that.
 
dark10x said:
I'm thinking of selling my Pioneer 5080 to a friend and moving to a Pioneer 5020 (1080p). I adore the 5080, but the 9th gen Pioneer panels are going to be their final plasma displays manufactured using the Kuro glass and I don't want to miss out on that.

Amazon has a decent price (Best Buy can't even begin to match it). Everyone seems to suggest that Amazon is a great place to buy a TV from, but I'm wondering how shipping and receiving is handled.

The 5020 is a big TV in a large box. How exactly would the display arrive? I mean, they aren't just going to leave the thing on the porch, right? I bought my 5080 from Plasma Concepts with "white glove" service and they actually brought the TV up stairs (I'm on the 3rd floor) and helped me move everything into place. I can take care of that this time (though I will obviously need the help of a friend), I suppose, but I still want to make sure it is delivered safely.

What can I expect if I decide to order from Amazon?

The 10g pioneer plasmas will be 5 lumen/watt and achieve infinite black levels. Just because the glass will be made at a panasonic factory doesn't mean the 9G will somehow be better. From what I gathered at avsforum, pioneer will have the glass built according to their own specs. They're not going to be using 'panasonic' glass.
 
BTW those still playing in SD and looking for a cheap way in, Best Buy has a Dynex 32" for $399 and a 26" for $349. I don't care Dynex is still better than SD.
 
Firestorm said:
The L? Sony doesn't use their newest engine in it. They're just using old tech in it to attract people who just want a cheap TV with the Sony name on it. Same goes for the S series which is the 1080p equivalent. I think the M is supposed to be the equivalent of Samsung's 4 series this year but from what I've heard, CNET and Consumer Reports both put Samsung's 32" A450 ahead of Sony's 32" M4000.

But I've read that Samsungs are horrible for gaming. Pretty bad input lag and motion blur even in game mode. Plus settings aren't adjustable in game mode with the Samsungs. I've been told that equivalent Sony, Sharp and Panasonic models all handle gaming much better than the Samsung LCDs. Also there's the "robot audio" issue with Sammy's that I'm not sure has ever been fixed.
 
Did you consider Costco? You have a 90 day return policy standard and a 2 year warranty. If the price drops during the your return period (90 days), they will give you a refund. I bought my 50" Panasonic PZ 700U from them last year, paid $2400, and got back $600 when the price dropped on day 89. You really can't beat that.

There is no restocking fee if you don't like it, and if you order online they will refund the shipping price if you return it.
 
cameltoe said:
I dread sending this thing back for stuck/dead pixels...lets hope it perfect!

This is why I buy anything LCD at B&M. I can't stand dead / stuck pixels. Took my wife's laptop back to Office Depot over one stuck pixel. Took last year's Black Friday special 37" LCD HDTV back to Target over one dead pixel. Seems like bad pixels are becoming more and more common as manufacturers and retailers revise their policies to allow for some pretty shoddy displays before accepting returns. Makes an easy return process a must for me.
 
CitizenCope said:
BTW those still playing in SD and looking for a cheap way in, Best Buy has a Dynex 32" for $399 and a 26" for $349. I don't care Dynex is still better than SD.

A sony sd tube is better than hd dynex!
 
Slavik81 said:
It's actually the law in your state that online purchases are not taxable but in-store purchases are?

That's very strange and very awesome. Must be annoying for B&M retailers in your state, though.

In Michigan, you can either keep track, or pay $50 at tax time for the whole year's worth of online purchases. Your choice.
 
you could possibly get lucky and have best buy price match. i've seen them do it for other online sites on rare occasion, but the chances seem pretty low.
 
I bought my 40" Samsung 540 at Sam's Club, they have a "100% Member Satisfaction" policy where if you aren't 100% satisfied during the lifetime of the product you can take it back and get a refund (if you have the receipt) or a gift card (if you don't.)

Pretty good deal!
 
I would never buy a TV from a B & M. Ended up buying mine a couple years ago from a store in Florida and having it shipped here. With an extended warranty and with the $150-200 shipping I still saved at least $500 over buying it from Best Buy or Circuit City. Went great too.

But yeah, Amazon is your friend.
 
arne said:
Just a random reminder so nobody doesn't see this coming one day...

technically you are required to remit any unpaid sales tax for any online purchases you make, where the retailer doesn't collect sales tax, to the state you live in.

Sounds like the stuff that started that revolution in some colonies in 1776.
 
H_Prestige said:
The 10g pioneer plasmas will be 5 lumen/watt and achieve infinite black levels. Just because the glass will be made at a panasonic factory doesn't mean the 9G will somehow be better. From what I gathered at avsforum, pioneer will have the glass built according to their own specs. They're not going to be using 'panasonic' glass.
Do you have any additional information?
 
claviertekky said:
What if pricing is an issue though?

I paid $495 on Amazon for the 32L4000. I've yet to see a brand name TV to go down that low.

I could have got a Vizio, but my parents refused since they think it's a no name brand.
Well yeah if pricing is an issue go for it. Where I work, for some reason the L is the same price as the Samsung A450 and the M is more expensive.
 
BTW those still playing in SD and looking for a cheap way in, Best Buy has a Dynex 32" for $399 and a 26" for $349. I don't care Dynex is still better than SD.
As someone noted above, a Sony SD trinitron CRT would absolutely destroy a Dynex LCD for SD gaming. A Sony HD CRT would be an even better display. If you're looking at 32" and 26" sizes, CRT is still a viable option (if you can find one). Cheap LCDs are just about the worst thing you can buy. Absolutely awful image quality.
 
dark10x said:
Do you have any additional information?

That's all I got for now. The prototype for the 10g was shown at CES earlier this year. Google "pioneer extreme contrast". CES 2009 should be very interesting.
 
H_Prestige said:
That's all I got for now. The prototype for the 10g was shown at CES earlier this year. Google "pioneer extreme contrast". CES 2009 should be very interesting.
I've read all of that information as well as the "hints" D-Nice has been dropping, but thought for a minute there was something else that had cropped up lately. It seems that we won't see the 10g panels until ~Nov 2009, however.
 
After getting Amazon Prime I don't think I've purchased anything that wasn't 15%+ on sale at Best Buy or any Physical Retailers... So a TV with White Glove service would be no different from Amazon would be no different.

>.> Like one of the First repliers sed: For LCD you want Sharp, Sony or Samsung.


for plasma... All I can think of is Pioneer... I think Panasonic is decent.
 
knitoe said:
Amazon changed their policy. You can't do that anymore for orders after September 1, 2008.

Oh shit thats terrible news.

Im glad I bought my HDTV in the spring then.


Doesnt Circuit City do 110% if the price goes down?
 
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