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[Minsc]

Valkaryia Chronicles and MGS4

:lol

That's best graphics of this gen?

Some of these posts, sheesh.

 

[godhandiscen]

:lol how many sony exclusives have been mentioned?

 

[Nikorasu]

How is that any different than (for example) Halo 3's photo mode, then? The 360 is technically capable of rendering the game at that image quality, just not at a playable framerate.

If these shots would be playable with a decent framerate with quad-295's or something, then fair enough. But something like that absurdly high-res shot posted a while back could reasonably be considered a bullshot, IMO.

1080p DX10 with 8x Transparency AA and 16x AF. Still at a very playable 30fps on a 4870x2. It's not "zong bullshot" IQ but it's pretty damn close.

 

[dLMN8R]

How can a game look 'pc-like'?

"sterile and pc-like" means "I'm a fanboy".

 

[McLovin]

:lol

That's best graphics of this gen?

Some of these posts, sheesh.

Looks better in motion.

 

[dLMN8R]

I guess it comes down to what the definition of a PC game bullshot actually is. To me, the definition of a bullshot is a screenshot of a game that is not representative of the actual product that the consumer will ultimately end up playing. I mean, sure, Crysis may technically be able to one day look like that, but as of right now, the consumer has no feasible way of playing the game in that state. So to me, that counts as a bullshot. Although I do see where you're coming from, the line in sand between actual shot and bullshot is a lot harder to really define when it comes to state of the art PC games.

This is what Crysis looks like. Running on my computer. With a $150 video card

 

[Nikorasu]

Looks better in motion.

Yeah, definitely. The resolution certainly hurts it, but the game is gorgeous. I would kill for a PC version.

 

[rohlfinator]

[IMG]

1080p DX10 with 8x Transparency AA and 16x AF. Still at a very playable 30fps on a 4870x2. It's not "zong bullshot" IQ but it's pretty damn close.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think that's definitely reasonable.

I just wasn't sure if you were discussing shots like these (which may be out of range of a lot of people's hardware, but are still totally doable) or some of the earlier shots (which will likely be playable some time in the future, but are pretty much impossible at playable framerates with today's hardware).

 

[Ysiadmihi]

STILL?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!!?

I love how you're pretending to be the voice of reason when one of your posts in this thread contained

The problem I have will the graphics in Crysis is that it all looks soooooooooooo booooooooooooooring. Not graphically incompetent but just boring as hell. Everything Ive seen from it lacks any real imagination. It doesnt have its own voice. They just made these bland areas look as realistic as possible.

Give it up already.

 

[Nikorasu]

Yeah, I think that's definitely reasonable.

I just wasn't sure if you were discussing shots like these (which may be out of range of a lot of people's hardware, but are still totally doable) or some of the earlier shots (which will likely be playable some time in the future, but are pretty much impossible at playable framerates with today's hardware).

However the point is, those shots are technically doable right now, and will be playable (i.e. 30+ fps) in the not too distant future. Halo 3 will never look any better than it does right now (unless they release a PC version ).

But regardless, the image quality debate aside Crysis is simply pushing more geometry, more particles, more postprocessing effects, and better lighting and physics than any other game out there, regardless of the resolution you're playing in. [insert game here] may have better [insert visual effect here] but no game does it all on the scale that Crysis does. There are certainly other games that I may find more impressive artistically (not to suggest Crysis is lacking creatively) but there really is no competition. Other than Crysis 2 i wouldn't expect to see a real competitor visually until maybe STALKER 2.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

KZ2=drab gray corridor shooter

Sure it is.. :lol

:lol

 

[h3ro]

:lol how many sony exclusives have been mentioned?

They were mentioned because they look damn fine. Did you miss the awesomely entertaining Halo 3 debate on the last ten pages? Or my awesome tribute to PGR4? There is, however, a lack of Mass Effect love.


Also, WE GET IT. CRYSIS WINS.

Can we switch this over to console specific screen shots now?

 

[J-Rzez]

:lol how many sony exclusives have been mentioned?

A lot of the games are really good looking. While I don't think they're all worthy of "Best", they could all be up there, and to others they maybe the best since they click with the art style.

It's telling about the machine though. And if you hate Sony or don't have a PS3, you're missing out on some great looking (and sounding) games.

 

[charsace]

The thing halo has going for it is the lighting. Crysis is the only game mentioned in this thread that has better lighting.

 

[Cat in the Hat]

Sure it is.. :lol

Brown then?

 

[shadowsdarknes]

The thing halo has going for it is the lighting. Crysis and Killzone2 are the only games mentioned in this thread that have better lighting.

Agreed man.

 

[Nikorasu]

The thing halo has going for it is the lighting. Crysis is the only game mentioned in this thread that has better lighting.

Well to be fair I think Stalker has the best lighting engine I've ever seen. Crysis as it is now uses a forward rendering system meaning it's still fairly limited when it comes to how many dynamic lights there are in a scene and what is able to actually cast shadows. Cryengine 3 will use a deferred lighting system like Stalker.

 

[Cat in the Hat]

Well to be fair I think Stalker has the best lighting engine I've ever seen. Crysis as it is now uses a forward rendering system meaning it's still fairly limited when it comes to how many dynamic lights there are in a scene and what is able to actually cast shadows. Cryengine 3 will use a deferred lighting system like Stalker.

High five*

I used a enhanced lighting mod on my playthrough and it was awesome.

 

[jett]

Valkaryia Chronicles and MGS4

The MGS4 engine definitely has the capacity to look spectacular...it's just a shame that this level of self-shadowing is disabled in the game but in a couple of scenes near the end of the game.

 

[nelsonroyale]

trolling kz2 for graphics is just as ridiculous as trolling crysis...fair to say crysis is better looking, but to say KZ2 looks poor is telling of the individual...

The final scene in MGS4 is the most visually impressive scene I have seen this gen...absolutely epic... easily my fave game this gen so far

 

[.GqueB.]

I love how you're pretending to be the voice of reason when one of your posts in this thread contained

Yea and I said that like FIVE pages ago and people are still agreeing and disagreeing about the games art direction.

"The art direction sucks!!!"

"No it doesnt!!! *posts screens*"

Im not trying to be "the voice of reason" Im trying to be the voice of "move the fuck on already". Youve all been having the same argument for like 10 pages now. So much that I have to pop in and make fun. I also came in to see some more screen shots and what do I find? Crysis and Killzone2. :lol

Admit its funny...

ADMIT IT!!!

 

[rohlfinator]

However the point is, those shots are technically doable right now, and will be playable (i.e. 30+ fps) in the not too distant future. Halo 3 will never look any better than it does right now (unless they release a PC version ).

I don't remember if it was posted in this thread or the PC screenshot thread, but someone posted a 10000xsomething screenshot with a lot of other processing. That's not going to run on any consumer-grade hardware at 30fps+ within the next few years, so I have no problem with someone calling that out as a bullshot. Just because it can be rendered on today's hardware with a retail copy of the game doesn't make it any more realistic.

And who knows, maybe the next Xbox will be able to emulate Halo 3 at 1080p with the texture filtering and AA of photo mode at 60fps. It still doesn't represent what the game looks like today.

But regardless, the image quality debate aside Crysis is simply pushing more geometry, more particles, more postprocessing effects, and better lighting and physics than any other game out there, regardless of the resolution you're playing in. [insert game here] may have better [insert visual effect here] but no game does it all on the scale that Crysis does. There are certainly other games that I may find more impressive artistically (not to suggest Crysis is lacking creatively) but there really is no competition. Other than Crysis 2 i wouldn't expect to see a real competitor visually until maybe STALKER 2.

Oh yeah, no question. And I think its art style is a lot better than a lot of people here are giving it credit for -- some of those environments are by far the most gorgeous landscapes I've seen in a game.

I have no argument with Crysis being called the best graphics this gen... but at the same time I have no problem with people calling out some of the unreasonable screens as bullshots. The game looks great as it is, there's nothing wrong with being upfront about which ones represent actual gameplay image quality and which are more heavily processed.

 

[Donos]

When i look into the "new" High Res PC Screenshot Thread i see a fuckton of superb Mass Effect screens. Why nobody mentions that fucker ???. The screens pulled me over to buy Mass Effect for PC. I hope my new budget notebook will run it with at least some frames :lol (Core2Duo 2,2 Ghz, 2GB DDR2, ATI Radeon HD2600 (512MB) )

Edit: Blah, already beaten for the call for Mass Effect

 

[Chinner]

There is, however, a lack of Mass Effect love.

I've been lovin' Mass Effect.

 

[DuckRacer]

They were mentioned because they look damn fine. Did you miss the awesomely entertaining Halo 3 debate on the last ten pages? Or my awesome tribute to PGR4? There is, however, a lack of Mass Effect love.

Mass Effect looks great in cutscenes, and the PC screencaps exemplify this. The actual game just looks OK.

 

[jett]

trolling kz2 for graphics is just as ridiculous as trolling crysis...fair to say crysis is better looking, but to say KZ2 looks poor is telling of the individual...

bububu there's no color

 

[ghst]

bububu there's no color

yes yes, we know it's a palette gimped, bland, derivative mess. you don't need to keep ramming the point home with screenshots.

 

[Poolman]

Tits. I hope she has a sexy accent.

 

[BeeDog]

Where are Forsete's direct captures when you need them?

 

[jett]

yes yes, we know it's a palette gimped, bland, derivative mess. you don't need to keep ramming the point home with screenshots.

So much butthurt it turned you blind.

 

[Threi]

bububu there's no color

*KZ2 Pics*

seriously?

 

[Chinner]

Mass Effect looks great in cutscenes, and the PC screencaps exemplify this. The actual game just looks OK.

Nah, ME cutscenes = actual game. Actually the conversation scenes are at a disadvantage because the character's shadows are disabled whenever you enter into a conversation. Not sure if the PC version suffers from the same problem but it annoys me tits off.

 

[Nikorasu]

yes yes, we know it's a palette gimped, bland, derivative mess. you don't need to keep ramming the point home with screenshots.

:lol

Spoiler

i actually like kz2

 

[Melfice7]

Tits. I hope she has a sexy accent.

Voiced by Claudia Black, shes an aussie

 

[ghst]

So much butthurt it turned you blind.

oh come on, you're not even trying. i can't work with this.

 

[Rad Agast]

There is, however, a lack of Mass Effect love.

I love Mass Effect and the character models are great but the environments are lacking in detail when compared to other games.

 

[BlueTsunami]

The argument for Photo Modes on consoles to create an equal footing against the PC makes me wanna cry then nuke a daycare

 

[Rad Agast]

So much butthurt it turned you blind.

But it's trichrome... except for that last pic.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Also, WE GET IT. CRYSIS WINS.

Can we switch this over to console specific screen shots now?

I don't understand the "Crysis obviously looks the best so that automatically excludes all other PC games" mentality. There are tons of games (even console ports) you have to consider before you even start getting into console exclusives.

 

[kodt]

Crysis / Crysis Warhead

KZ2, Uncharted were also very impressive though.

FarCry 2 has its moments of beauty. As does MGS4.

I also think Dirt and GT5P look amazing.

 

[firex]

Sure it is.. :lol

oh cool, it's drab and gray outside, too. nice to know they didn't want to scare the console kiddies by giving them some varied colors. I'm only going off media released of the game because there's no way I'd buy a $400 console to play inferior controlled shooters and one SRPG. maybe there are some more exciting brown and gray and gunmetal colored levels that take place in other environments!

 

[Mooreberg]

Crysis is the winner, it has a much larger hardware footprint to work with and utilizes it. The first videos of CryEngine 3 running on 360 and PS3 were promising, we'll see what a full game looks like on the consoles soon.

For console games I'd go with Killzone 2, Gears 2, and MGS4.

 

[MvmntInGrn]

oh cool, it's drab and gray outside, too. nice to know they didn't want to scare the console kiddies by giving them some varied colors. I'm only going off media released of the game because there's no way I'd buy a $400 console to play inferior controlled shooters and one SRPG. maybe there are some more exciting brown and gray and gunmetal colored levels that take place in other environments!

:lol Keep going this is entertaining.

Yep consoles, they only have FPS and one SRPG. If you are missing any console or a PC this gen you are missing some good gaming.

 

[soldat7]

I love Mass Effect and the character models are great but the environments are lacking in detail when compared to other games.

Lacking in detail? Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that ME is one of the better-looking UE3 games on the market. The game has stunning scenery.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Lacking in detail? Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that ME is one of the better-looking UE3 games on the market. The game has stunning scenery.

My favorite part about ME is the ship. The whole thing from the map and bridge to the engine room is so perfectly realized.

 

[RedRedSuit]

Brown then?

Not only is it quite varied in terms of color palette (about the only thing it's "guilty" of is not featuring any colorful vegetation, which sort of makes sense given the setting), characterizing it as a "corridor shooter" is vastly wrong. It has some of the most vertical level design I've ever seen, and it's full of open areas, too.

 

[Chinner]

Lacking in detail? Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that ME is one of the better-looking UE3 games on the market. The game has stunning scenery.

I wish I had a capture card/the PC version, could get a couple of good ME pictures into this thread. Also, alot of the scenary does looks lovely. Virmire is the shit.

 

[The Librarian]

ITT Xbox 360-only owners meet up and share their denial.

:/

 

[nelsonroyale]

I don't understand the "Crysis obviously looks the best so that automatically excludes all other PC games" mentality. There are tons of games (even console ports) you have to consider before you even start getting into console exclusives.

apart from a few rts, and perhaps farcry 2, there really aren't many pc games in the same stratosphere as crysis... those two new space mmos look incredible though

ME looks nice on pc, but there are quite a lot of better looking games...even gears looks better by a fair margin

 

[RedRedSuit]

My favorite part about ME is the ship. The whole thing from the map and bridge to the engine room is so perfectly realized.

Except the elevator built in the late 1800s, apparently....