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[AltogetherAndrews]

Id like to talk about this: At what point and under what circumstances are graphics just incomparable between games? Like you cant truly say RE5 or GT is graphically better than lets say Gears2 or Killzone2 or whatever because while it may "look" better, its only running half the tech. There isnt as much going on with particle effects, environmental destruction and AI so less resources are delegated to the graphical aspects.

But that's assuming that your definition of "graphics" leans heavily to the side of technical proficiency, and what/how much of something it does. I rate it based on what can provide the most visually pleasing image, or in the case of admitting proficiency, then balance is the important aspect. Throwing a motion blurred, detailed texture across a screen isn't going to do much for me.

And for the record, I think a page with bunch of screens from various pretty games is a hell of a lot more pleasing than one that contains discussion about what makes for a pretty game.

 

[DrPirate]

That is really impressive.

If you like RTS, you should try it.

IMO, the gameplay is just as good (better actually) then the graphics.

I think Dawn of War series is more fun than Starcraft....

 

[eso76]

It's 1280x1080, which is still technically 1080p I think. And yes, it looks godly on a plasma.

that's very clever, actually; in a racing game you're much more likely to see jaggies coming from horizontal lines and on car roofs, where the sun shines.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

If you like RTS, you should try it.

IMO, the gameplay is just as good (better actually) then the graphics.

I think Dawn of War series is more fun than Starcraft....

Actually, I'd argue that even those who don't typically like games in that genre should try it out. It's more about skirmish tactics than campaign strategy, and base building has been eliminated in favor of persistent character progression. It's something fresh.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

If you like RTS, you should try it.

IMO, the gameplay is just as good (better actually) then the graphics.

I think Dawn of War series is more fun than Starcraft....

I have been a devoted Blizzard RTS fan. I can't even count the amount of hours I spent playing Starcraft and WC3 and SC2 is my most anticipated game right now. So for you to say you like it even more than Starcraft basically means I will be picking this up the second I get a decent rig next month.

 

[shpankey]

It's 1280x1080, which is still technically 1080p I think. And yes, it looks godly on a plasma.

I thought 1080p is 1920×1080?

 

[DrPirate]

I have been a devoted Blizzard RTS fan. I can't even count the amount of hours I spent playing Starcraft and WC3 and SC2 is my most anticipated game right now. So for you to say you like it even more than Starcraft basically means I will be picking this up the second I get a decent rig next month.

Trust me, I hear you. I've been watching every single Starcraft 2 video in anticipation (And it'll be amazing I'm sure), I too have also spent my highschool years in Starcraft (But then I learned about Use Map Settings maps and I was addicted to those hahaha) and then came the DotA and Mauls in WC3. Trust me, I know what you mean.

I recommend strongly you try the Dawn of War 1 demo (It's on Steam). The gameplay is incredibly different from most other RTS', but it's really deep and has incredibly engaging gameplay and mechanics.

I should also tell you, I'm a huge Command and Conquer fan, and Company of Heroes fan, and this game really feels like a hybrid of Starcraft, CoH and Command and Conquer. There's squad gameplay, resource and power management, and the sci-fi story and races (9 actually) which are all incredibly balanced.


I will now stop shitting up this thread, I apologize. Sorry.

 

[Donos]

I have been a devoted Blizzard RTS fan. I can't even count the amount of hours I spent playing Starcraft and WC3 and SC2 is my most anticipated game right now. So for you to say you like it even more than Starcraft basically means I will be picking this up the second I get a decent rig next month.

But be prepared. While the first Dawn of War has base-building, the second hasn't. You always have your 3 squads. In DaW2 are only some minor buildings you can use.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Trust me, I hear you. I've been watching every single Starcraft 2 video in anticipation (And it'll be amazing I'm sure), I too have also spent my highschool years in Starcraft (But then I learned about Use Map Settings maps and I was addicted to those hahaha) and then came the DotA and Mauls in WC3. Trust me, I know what you mean.

I recommend strongly you try the Dawn of War 1 demo (It's on Steam). The gameplay is incredibly different from most other RTS', but it's really deep and has incredibly engaging gameplay and mechanics.

I should also tell you, I'm a huge Command and Conquer fan, and Company of Heroes fan, and this game really feels like a hybrid of Starcraft, CoH and Command and Conquer. There's squad gameplay, resource and power management, and the sci-fi story and races (9 actually) which are all incredibly balanced.


I will now stop shitting up this thread, I apologize. Sorry.

That sounds incredible. I can't wait to try it.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

That sounds incredible. I can't wait to try it.

If you haven't tried Company of Heroes, I'd try that too. I think it's a much better game (though it's incredibly buggy and imbalanced atm).

 

[eso76]

I thought 1080p is 1920×1080?

well, he means it's still 1080 horizontal lines.



nice screenshots everyone : )

one thing this thread DOES prove is, this gen might have had a slow start but the leap compared to last gen is just as huge as it always was between different gens.
Here's hoping neither sony or microsoft go the wii way with their next consoles.

 

[Jeseus]

The only joke was the gif you posted. I simply posted a more honest and accurate one.

:lol

than developers on beyond3D are wrong and you are right..

i understood it now

:lol

 

[Dabanton]

And once we answer this question and all agree on something (20 pages later) will we finally decide whether or not these discussions are even worth having in the first place? Will we...?

We all know the answer to that,this thread will slowly sink,then in a week or two someone else will ask the same question and off we go again. :lol

It's kinda similar to SimCity, closer to the Settlers series if you've ever played that. There's a good chance you will enjoy it, the easier thing to do though is to just grab the demo here: http://www.gamershell.com/download_16068.shtml

The only worthwhile thing i've gotten from this thread. My GF thanks you for this she's been playing the demo intensively all day.

It's a really stunning game.

 

[Tain]

Crysis has the best graphics technically but no one likes the art direction.

I like the art direction. A lot.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

One thing that should be noted about Banjo is that it has some pretty significant framerate issues at times. It's a shame, because it really is very pretty.

 

[Classic_Gs]

Eternal Sonata looks better than PoP, and KillZone 2 is the new standard in graphics.

 

[soldat7]

:lol

than developers on beyond3D are wrong and you are right..

i understood it now

:lol

The gif you posted of Halo 3 does not accurately represent the game. Sorry.

 

[Gully State]

Trust me, I hear you. I've been watching every single Starcraft 2 video in anticipation (And it'll be amazing I'm sure), I too have also spent my highschool years in Starcraft (But then I learned about Use Map Settings maps and I was addicted to those hahaha) and then came the DotA and Mauls in WC3. Trust me, I know what you mean.

I recommend strongly you try the Dawn of War 1 demo (It's on Steam). The gameplay is incredibly different from most other RTS', but it's really deep and has incredibly engaging gameplay and mechanics.

What's wrong with the Dawn of War 2 demo? Besides the fact that you need Games for Windows Live. I ask only because my friend was showing off this game (game looks great even on the lowest settings btw)over the weekend and I'm tempted to pick it up.

 

[nelsonroyale]

last post in the trainwreck:

Fairly objective opinion:

Crysis is the most technically impressive game thus far released, it manages to combine massive scope with no comprise in detail at the micro stage

Subjective opinion:

what is the best looking game? Saying crysis and nothing else is not objective in the slightest, since this is down to personal preference and includes personal leanings in relation to art, setting etc...

Personally, there are several games that impress me in different ways, crysis is one of them

 

[Mash]

:lol

than developers on beyond3D are wrong and you are right..

i understood it now

:lol

The gif you posted of Halo 3 does not accurately represent the game. Sorry.

Soldat's right, Halo 3 isn't that great looking a game but the Beyond3D gif is simply a misrepresentation. It looks like it's from a 4-player split screen lol.

 

[Jeseus]

The gif you posted of Halo 3 does not accurately represent the game. Sorry.

it represent difference between IN-GAME and PHOTO-MODE .. you can see what is better in PHOTO-MODE like AF,AA etc

 

[.GqueB.]

We all know the answer to that,this thread will slowly sink,then in a week or two someone else will ask the same question and off we go again. :lol

You know what... youre right. Hopeless thread is hopeless. I oft forget Im on the internets. Anyways, lets gawk at more crysis shots.

 

[soldat7]

it represent difference between IN-GAME and PHOTO-MODE .. you can see what is better in PHOTO-MODE like AF,AA etc

Halo 3 has horrendous aliasing issues and general image quality compromises, but the game does not look nearly as bad as that gif is trying to portray. Photo-mode in Halo 3 does not add any post-processing effects to the image. The photo-mode images are rendered at 1920x1080 and not 1152x640 like they are in-game. That's the only difference.

But yeah, I'll be the first to agree that Halo 3 photo-mode shots look better than the in-game shots rendered at 1152x640. That is clearly the case.

 

[[Nintex]]

Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty; a PlayStation® Network game looks better than Bomba & Kazooie.

Kazooie: "I think I see an ant!"
Banjo: "Yaha"
Grunty: "You stupid bird and bear, let me say it one more time you hear, that ant creature you see, is Ratchet on a killing spree
He looks even uglier than the bear, his robot is in despair"

 

[pringles]

Was using an 8800GT at time of these shots. I know have a 4870 1 GB so I get 10-15 more FPS using a custom config.

I must be doing something wrong because my Crysis looks nowhere near that good. I usually play with about a 50/50 mix of High and Very High settings.
I don't know even remember any area that looks like that. Is it from Warhead?

 

[Dabanton]

I must be doing something wrong because my Crysis looks nowhere near that good. I usually play with about a 50/50 mix of High and Very High settings.
I don't know even remember any area that looks like that. Is it from Warhead?

A lot of those are custom configs, i always find they give the best results that's the thing i love about PC games i can tweak the graphic settings to my hearts desire.

 

[Ether_Snake]

You know what... youre right. Hopeless thread is hopeless. I oft forget Im on the internets. Anyways, lets gawk at more crysis shots.

Err that isn't Crysis

 

[[Nintex]]

Grunty: "Bullshot here, bullshot there, this is quite a boring affair!"

Grunty: "The glowing eyes I guess, are fancier than my dress,
On the technical side we are, superior by far!"

Grunty: "This sad excuse for a game, looks rather lame!"

Grunty: "The plumber took a flight, to great hight,
unlike you and me, he didn't go HD!"

Grunty: "All that came before, are not impressive anymore
Crysis you see, looks good to me"

 

[Haunted]

Nintex has officially lost it.

 

[TheExodu5]

Probably because the only games that looks better on PCs are either high-res console ports or FPSs. I can't remember seeing any racing sim on the PC that looks better than Gran Turismo 5P.
There's only so many times one can play through Crysis.

So do RTSes, RPGs, Dungeon Crawlers, etc...

Have you seen how bad Halo Wars looks on the 360? And it can't even manage to maintain 30fps.

 

[Cat in the Hat]

So do RTSes, RPGs, Dungeon Crawlers, etc...

Have you seen how bad Halo Wars looks on the 360? And it can't even manage to maintain 30fps.

Just let it go man, he's not worth it.

 

[TheExodu5]

I must be doing something wrong because my Crysis looks nowhere near that good. I usually play with about a 50/50 mix of High and Very High settings.
I don't know even remember any area that looks like that. Is it from Warhead?

It's a custom config. The lighting is simply made much more pronounced, unrealisticly so, but it does make it look very impressive.

 

[Y2Kev]

I HATE banjo's art style, and it's not the typical Rare shit. It's just so extremely gaudy and overstated that it hurts to look at it. I also think the levels are way too big and empty. The LogBox level is ugly.

 

[TheExodu5]

I'm not suggesting HALO 3 is the best looking game this gen, only pointing out that you obviously searched for a shitty looking picture of it. HALO 3 looks great.

*halo 3 screens*

I'm wondering why not one of those shots is a gameplay shot. Are you trying to pass off a bullshot as the actual game?

Yes you are. I own Halo 3, and believe me when I say it's one of the worst looking 360 games I have, not counting the low budget EDF2017 types.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Eh, Halo 3 had its moments. It had its shortcomings too, but I never found it to be an ugly game.

 

[sammy]

Good god, i wish they'd make a damn dinosaur game

 

[TheExodu5]

Eh, Halo 3 had its moments. It had its shortcomings too, but I never found it to be an ugly game.

I don't know...sub-hd resolution with zero aa, low polycount models, poor texture work. Not to mention it can't even hold 30fps all the time. The only redeeming point was the lighting. Extremely underwhelming for a AAA title.

I have Halo on the PC, and believe me when I say that Halo doesn't look all that much better. I'd almost rather the clean IQ of Halo 1 over the effects and polycount of Halo 3.

 

[rollingstart]

Nintex has officially lost it.

I think he's trying to make people vomit so much that their vision becomes blurry and then we won't be able to tell which games look better than what. Well, except PDZ and Lair. Those games manage to offend senses you didn't know you had.

 

[AKS]

YOU BUY ME A 1080p 50" KURO AND I WILL
seriously, i thought GT5 didn't really render at 1080p though ? anyway, my 720p bravia seems to be dying, i might buy a full hd plasma quite soon.

Oh, yeah, as far as ps3 is concerned, R&C is probably the game that impressed me the most, Was it never mentioned before in this thread? for shame.

If price is an issue, try Panasonic's plasmas. I have a 46" PZ85U and also game and watch movies on a relative's godly PZ800U with the THX mode (you should see Planet Earth; gorgeous!). The Kuro's may look a bit better, but not $1000 or more better. Plus, Pioneer is getting out of the TV market (shattering my dreams of someday owning one). I've been very impressed with Panasonic's products, especially considering I'm not quite established financially yet

Oh, and yeah, GT5/P and WipEout HD will make your eyes bleed. :lol

 

[AKS]

Killzone 2 was already unseated before it launched by Banjo, but no one played it.

What? Banjo is a great looking game to be sure, but you can't be serious. I have played Banjo and just about all the other graphically elite console games, and we've drawn VERY different conclusions on this topic.

 

[DuckRacer]

One thing that should be noted about Banjo is that it has some pretty significant framerate issues at times. It's a shame, because it really is very pretty.

Wait, what? Banjo is smooth as butter except for that one Banjoland ice racing challenge (where it admittedly all goes to hell). And I've played up to 90 or so jiggies, too.

edit: and Banjo doesn't look better than KZ2. I do think it's the best looking game on 360, but I haven't played Gears 2 yet.

I'd definitely put it in my top 3 with KZ2 and Uncharted, though.

 

[AKS]

Grunty: "Bullshot here, bullshot there, this is quite a boring affair!"

Yeah, because Naughty Dog has such a longstanding history of struggling with tech and faking their graphics pics...

The first Uncharted is still among the best looking console games in history, and I'm not sure any game supasses its sound quality. The sequel is going to make people's eyes implode and eardrums burst from awesome overload.

 

[jett]

I HATE banjo's art style, and it's not the typical Rare shit. It's just so extremely gaudy and overstated that it hurts to look at it.

Thanks for saying that so I didn't have to.

 

[Dizzan]

Wow at the pics in this thread.

Do you all really care that much about who is the best?

All I can think of is how fucking awesome next gen is going to look.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Wait, what? Banjo is smooth as butter except for that one Banjoland ice racing challenge (where it admittedly all goes to hell). And I've played up to 90 or so jiggies, too.

edit: and Banjo doesn't look better than KZ2. I do think it's the best looking game on 360, but I haven't played Gears 2 yet.

I'd definitely put it in my top 3 with KZ2 and Uncharted, though.

There are serious spots of slowdown in Showdown town, especially around the Trophy Thomas area. Might just be a problem with water, but it's definitely there. I was a bit surprised given that there weren't really any serious activity that would cause the slowdown. Stability is one of the things that really impresses me with Ratchet, in that it stays above chugging no matter what happens on-screen. And there is a lot of activity in any given scene.

 

[Ether_Snake]

What people should realize is that even with the tech that allows you to render such scenes, it doesn't mean much if the experience is nothing new.

You could have some really incredible experience in such an environment, but in the end you just shoot some North Koreans (or something like it).

Can't wait for a fantasy game set in such well rendered settings, made by competent game designers.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

What people should realize is that even with the tech that allows you to render such scenes, it doesn't mean much if the experience is nothing new.

You could have some really incredible experience in such an environment, but in the end you just shoot some North Koreans.

Good thing for Crysis that it's the most progressive FPS we've seen in ages, then. You may take issue with the genre and the basic game format, but Crysis is something out of the ordinary. I see what you're saying, but at least Crytek is doing something with the format.

 

[Zeliard]

What people should realize is that even with the tech that allows you to render such scenes, it doesn't mean much if the experience is nothing new.

You could have some really incredible experience in such an environment, but in the end you just shoot some North Koreans (or something like it).

Can't wait for a fantasy game set in such well rendered settings, made by competent game designers.

Terrible post. Crysis' open-ended gameplay is superior and different to that of nearly every other shooter.

 

[Zophar]

Yeah, because Naughty Dog has such a longstanding history of struggling with tech and faking their graphics pics...

The first Uncharted is still among the best looking console games in history, and I'm not sure any game supasses its sound quality. The sequel is going to make people's eyes implode and eardrums burst from awesome overload.

It blows my mind how well Uncharted holds up today, seeing as it still shows up in threads like this.

 

[Angelus Errare]

What people should realize is that even with the tech that allows you to render such scenes, it doesn't mean much if the experience is nothing new.

You could have some really incredible experience in such an environment, but in the end you just shoot some North Koreans (or something like it).

Can't wait for a fantasy game set in such well rendered settings, made by competent game designers.

Yeah luckily other FPS are doing new and creative things with the FPS genre.

*Does slow jerking motion with hand.*