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[Dachande]

Oh shit!

I can get this for $700!

http://www.bestdigitalonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?Catid=354&Sku=FWD50PX1S

50 Inches

HOW

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Waiting to find out what the catch is. His excuse in writing was that he's in a bind and needs the money ASAP.

 

[CurlySaysX]

compared to my 710N, the 970 has absoulte crap build quality.
the swivel base is near imposible to move, you need two hands to swiver the piece of crap, I was also testing the pivot screen and the plastic surrounding the monitor moved/slipped.
and the quality of the plastics being used is a joke. the panel is nice though.
I guess the panel costs Samsuck $500 and the rest $10.

 

[MomoPufflet]

While we're on the subject-- any recommendations in the $300 range? Screen doesn't need to be huge but I'd like something with a decent picture.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

There's a ton of stuff in that range. Go to newegg.com and look under projectors/monitors. Sort the list by price. LG has some nice ones.

 

[MomoPufflet]

What should I be looking for? (other than screen size and price?)

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Pixel response time - time it takes for a pixel to go to black, white and fully black again. If you plan on playing games and watching movies, the shorter the # of ms, the better. Stay @ 16ms and under.

Viewing angle and brightness are also improtant things to consider. Inputs as well.

 

[Lhadatt]

While we're on the subject-- any recommendations in the $300 range? Screen doesn't need to be huge but I'd like something with a decent picture.

I posted this a bit ago: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824112176

$389, $10 3-day shipping. It's a bit above $300, but you might find it's a better deal.

 

[Leatherface]

FYI- here is an NEC monitor thats about to hit the market:

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/nec-announces-widescreen-20-lcd-monitor

“See more” with NEC’s new MultiSync LCD20WGX² monitor. A widescreen 16:10 aspect ratio, 6ms response time, 470cd/m² brightness, 700:1 contrast ratio, 178-degree viewing angle, 4 port USB 2\.0 hub, and 1680 X 1050 resolution make the LCD20WGX² a solid performer. If you’re not already sold on it, this monitor also employs OptiClear DVM (Dynamic Visual Mode) technology with 4 user selectable image adjustment modes (text/games/video/photos) for optimal viewing performance. NEC will release the LCD20WGX² by the end of this month (January 2006) at the price of $677 USD.


A bit pricey, but NEC have always had quality monitors. What do you guys think?

 

[DaCocoBrova]

DAY-UM!


I want!

*reads specs*

The price should come down to ~$500 soon.

 

[SonnyBoy]

Just the thread I needed.

 

[Leatherface]

Yeah, i think this may be the one I get. I'll try to hold out for the $500 mark.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Just the thread I needed.

I thought for sure you already read through this. Otherwise I would've linked it in the PM.

Either way enjoy. For those of you that haven't decided, I'd suggest waiting until the end of February.

 

[Shawn128]

Dell 2405FPW FTW

 

[DaCocoBrova]

2407FPW


FTW

Either way, ~$900 for 24" is too much IMO, for something that's not HDCP compliant. You can get a 32" LCDTV for that price.

 

[SonnyBoy]

DAY-UM!


I want!

*reads specs*

The price should come down to ~$500 soon.

If that monitor drops to $500 I'll get one too. I was about to pay $30 less than that for something inferior.

 

[Gantz]

Can anyone recommend a good LCD monitor I can use with my PC, Powerbook, and soon Xbox 360?

 

[tedtropy]

don't be a pussy DCB get this DELL
Requires a dual-link DVI-D graphics card that supports WQXGA (2560x1600) resolution.

Viewable Image Size 30 inches
Diagonal Size 30 inches
Display Type Active Matrix - TFT LCD
Depth 7.87 inches
Height
18.49 inches compressed
22 inches extended
Width 27.16 inches
Weight (no stand) 25.07 lbs.
Horizontal Viewing Angle ± 178° (typical)
Vertical Viewing Angle ± 178° (typical)
Color Support 16.7 million colors
Contrast Ratio 700:1
Response Time 11 ms (grey-to-grey)
Brightness 400 cd/m2
Resolution 2560x1600 (max)
Pixel Pitch (Dot Pitch) 0.250 mm
Ports
DVI-D (dual link) with HDCP
USB 2.0 (4)
9-in-2 Media Card Reader
Power Consumption
147W to 177W (max) w/USB and sound bar
Less than 1W switched off

should see u through

Wow, an LCD that consumes potentially 177W of electricity? That's only a little less than my honking 30-inch CRT HD set uses. One of big perks of an LCD in my opinion is the considerably less amount of power required. This one seems to be an exception.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Dell 2405 24" LCD FTW

 

[DaCocoBrova]

I hope your job footed the bill... $3400 worth of non-HDCP display devices is not a financially sound investment by any means.

 

[Manick Joe]

I think I might jump on the Dell bandwagon.

I had my sights set on this Gateway 21" Widescreen LCD, but it seems like the 2005W Dell gives me all the same features (sans component input) at $150 less!

I noticed some customers complained that their graphic cards had a hard time rendering at the native resolution. Is that a problem with widescreen lcd's? Primarily this baby is going to be used for video editing, but there are a handful of games out there that I'll be picking up once I get a new tower (FarCry, Battlefield 2). And even though I have my luscious 34" HDTV, it would be nice if the current and next gen systems would look good on it through component. So GAF am I looking in the right direction?

 

[Lhadatt]

I noticed some customers complained that their graphic cards had a hard time rendering at the native resolution. Is that a problem with widescreen lcd's?

Answer #1: Yes. Upgrade your card to something that can handle it. Don't buy the monitor until you're sure. Buying a high-end resolution monitor and then complaining that your POS Voodoo Banshee can't render at anything over 1024x768 or whatever is like trying to scale Mt. Everest with a Ford Pinto.

Answer #2: That is an incorrect use of the apostrophe. Quit confusing your possessives with your plurals.

Primarily this baby is going to be used for video editing, but there are a handful of games out there that I'll be picking up once I get a new tower (FarCry, Battlefield 2). And even though I have my luscious 34" HDTV, it would be nice if the current and next gen systems would look good on it through component. So GAF am I looking in the right direction?

With the Dell? It has no component. So, no.

Try Sceptre's 20.1". It looks good and has an optional componet adapter. And it's cheaper than that Gateway. Newegg should have it for around $400.

 

[GXAlan]

I think I might jump on the Dell bandwagon.

I had my sights set on this Gateway 21" Widescreen LCD, but it seems like the 2005W Dell gives me all the same features (sans component input) at $150 less!

HDCP is important! the Dell doesn't have it.

Otoh, wait a few weeks and I'll have my gateway vs HP vs NEC monitor comparison.

 

[VPhys]

2005 isn't big enough. The 2405fpw is the best.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=24053YR&category_id=4009

No the 3007 is the best. Haven't you been reading the thread!



But DELL Monitors FTWs.

This is frustrating.

I'm pretty much set on the 2405fpw, but for $850, I want speakers.

Dude, speakers are the WORST things you can attach to a monitor.

 

[Pellham]

Oh shit!

I can get this for $700!

http://www.bestdigitalonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?Catid=354&Sku=FWD50PX1S

50 Inches

It retails for 3k!! I'd resell for a profit.

 

[Pellham]

Dell 2405 24" LCD FTW

Are the end monitors 24's as well?
holy shit, that is the most pimped out monitor set up EVER.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

We don't have any more info today than on Monday when we first spied the 2407WFP on the Dell Japan site, but now that the US documentation has been leaked we do have some juicier pics. All that 1920 x1200 resolution, 6ms response time, and 1000:1 contrast ratio still holds true, just this time the 24-incher is being described in glorious English (and we have larger pictures, of course. Which would mean that this model can't be too far from shipping in the US -- at least that's what we mumble incoherently to ourselves as stare fixated at its beauty.

Samsung got a new one...

 

[Shawn]

The question is, Which monitor will offer the absolute best picture/image quality for Xbox 360 via the VGA cable? I have a feeling the answer should be the Dell 2407WFP.

Those reports about washed-out/dull colors of games running through VGA concerns me, though. It makes no sense, because VGA should produce a better picture than component.

 

[Lhadatt]

Eh, I'd get one of the Viewsonic 23" before trusting Dell's build quality.

500:1 contrast ratio, 16ms, HDCP: http://viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/proseries/vp231wb/
800:1 contrast ratio, 8ms, no HDCP:http://viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/proseries/vp2330wb/

Both are 1920x1200.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

^^

The price: Though it looks like a million bucks, the VP231wb won't cost anywhere near that much. It will sell for $1,899.

C'mon now...

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Getting the Dell 2007FPW next. I currently use a wall mounted 1907FP and it's great other than the lack of a contrast option in DVI mode. I don't think the 2007FPW is out yet however.

http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Dell_UltraSharp_2007WFP/4505-3174_16-31783769.html?tag=also

 

[BigGreenMat]

I just got the Sceptre 20.1" monitor and it is pretty flawless other than the buttons being a bit flimsy. Mine came with no bleeding or dead pixels and the response times are good. I wish there were more in depth reviews of the monitor because as far as I can tell it is top notch quality.

 

[Lhadatt]

C'mon now...

I pasted links for the 23", right?

Here's a 20": http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116381

That's comparable to the Dell and Sceptre.

 

[gprime]

The Dell FPW LCDs:

I would say the 24" dell is your best best if you have the cash. Honestly when you get used to it, it's the perfect size. For a while you'll find it "too big" but you quickly get used to it. 20" is nice too, but there's something going on with the blacks and the back lighting. At an angle you'll get a weird tinge to it. And you might outgrow the size pretty quick -- or maybe not.

When it comes to the 30" you think.. bigger is always better. But really, there *could* be such thing as too big -- but maybe that's just me. You need a dual-link DVI video card to run this beast too. And Dual DVI != Dual-LINK DVI. Very few cards support dual-link. Also, the
colours seem to lack some depth, and although you can get an assload of stuff on your screen at once, it's not exactly ideal for gaming. And there are no component, composite or s-video connections on it either -- which the 24" does have. The 20" lacks component input too.

Annnd.. lastly.. the 24" always goes on sale during those "Dell Days of Deals" things. I only follow the Canadian ones, but I'm pretty sure they happen in the US too. They knock a couple hundred dollars off the monitors, making them an even better deal. I think during the last one here in Canada, the 24" was $850. Actually... The Shopping Channel (Canadian) has it for $850 *right now* with a free keyboard and mouse. Free shipping too:

http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/product_detail.asp?departmentId=2758&itemId=601217&Nz=0

 

[MrPing1000]

Samsung SyncMaster 930bf if u play games

 

[Slurpy]

For those of you who dont mind hp, I picked up the HP f1905b a couple months ago. Amazing picture quality, fullu adjustable height/tilt (can fold flat down like that samsung, but even more flexible) brightview screen (that clear plastic as in the sonys, which was a must for me) and comes with DVI/VGA cables included. Not sure if theyre selling it, but I havent seen a monitor with better picture quality on shelves to this day. The clearcoating makes a world of difference, and everything else looks so washed out after getting used to this. Oh yeah, even came with separate speakers (not great, but do their job). Monitor has awesome web reviews too, and won some awards. Make sure the 'b' is at the end though- the non-b version is everywhere, but the b model is much improved and harder to find.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

I like HP, but I can not ever go back to 4:3. I thought I could a few weeks ago when I went and got the 1907FP. 4:3 just looks odd now.

 

[btrboyev]

I just bought a new pc and that 21" gateway screen...amazing monitor.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

**Bump**
I've finally made my decision.

It's either the 2005FPW or the newer 2007FPW. Can anyone find a comparison review out there? I've looked but saw nothing official.

 

[Shawn]

Wait a second! What about the Dell 2407??

 

[DaCocoBrova]

4" and component inputs ain't worth the $800 additional . Plus it's not out.

 

[BigGreenMat]

**Bump**
I've finally made my decision.

It's either the 2005FPW or the newer 2007FPW. Can anyone find a comparison review out there? I've looked but saw nothing official.

A couple people over at HardOCP have gotten 2007s and they say the build quality is much better which was the primary fault of the 2005 given its often HORRID backlight bleeding. Also they said some ghosting seems *slightly* better on the 2007. Otherwise it is basically the same monitor with updated looks.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Thanks for the info. Now to find it for less than what Dell is asking...

That's the hard part.

Edit:

Upon further research, the 2007FPW has banding issues (discussed here). Just bought a 2005FPW, which doesn't have that issue, for $290.

Today was a good day.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Bump for those eyeing the 2007FPW

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

Dell 2407 is available for purchase in Australia.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/20lcd_au?c=au&l=en&s=dhs

Gonna wait for one of their 20% or E-Value Coupon Deals.

Less than the Samsung, but still too pricey.

 

[Leatherface]

OMG! I just found an awesome LCD monitor!

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1043429

These pics were taken with a crappy digital camera too!

=O =O =O =O

 

[MoxManiac]

Anything more than 2ms response time is unacceptable to me.

Viewsonic has a nice 19" with 2ms for a little over $300. I want that.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Anything more than 2ms response time is unacceptable to me.

Viewsonic has a nice 19" with 2ms for a little over $300. I want that.

I hope you know that you'll be sacrificing IQ for that quick response time... Best to find a happy medium.

 

[MoxManiac]

I hope you know that you'll be sacrificing IQ for that quick response time... Best to find a happy medium.

Why would that be?

 

[GONZO]

I'm about to buy this for my 360 and pc pleasure. You can get it for 500 dollars and it's decent.