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Best long term RPG investment: 360 or PS3?
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Paracelsus
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Then why Microsoft is not the Publisher?
B-Rad Lascelle
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If you swear by Final Fantasy, buy a PS3 when FFXIII comes out... should be plenty affordable by then.
Otherwise, buy an Xbox 360.
And if you're really tight on the wallet, stick with PS2. Don't tell me you've played all it has to offer on the RPG front. FES isn't even out yet.
Otherwise, buy an Xbox 360.
And if you're really tight on the wallet, stick with PS2. Don't tell me you've played all it has to offer on the RPG front. FES isn't even out yet.
word.Zoe said:If you get him a non-40GB PS3, he can toss out his PS2. RPG's are still coming out for the PS2, and you always have the prospect of PS1 Classics (Wild Arms 2 will come some day ;_.
I've got a PS3, and Persona 3: FES is my most anticipated game right now.
Sorry Hideo
Mammothtank
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White Knight Chronicles
Final Fantasy XIII
Valkyria chronicles
Folklore
Disgaea 3
Untold Legends 3: Dark Kingdom
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
There's a few more without names, but why bother.
Along with multiplatform titles such as:
Fallout 3
Eternal Sonata
Enchanted Arms
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Alpha Protocol
Final Fantasy XIII
Valkyria chronicles
Folklore
Disgaea 3
Untold Legends 3: Dark Kingdom
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
There's a few more without names, but why bother.
Along with multiplatform titles such as:
Fallout 3
Eternal Sonata
Enchanted Arms
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Alpha Protocol
juicyfruitas
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gkrykewy said:
If this is the angle you're pondering then ultimately the ps3 will be the platform for JRPG's.
Currently the 360 does have terrific jrpg momentum in comparison with the ps3 but a lot of this has to do with development deals MS signed with J-Devs 1 to 2 years ago back when the 360 showed a lot of promise in the market.
Flash forward to the here and now, the 360 barely manages to sell 2k consoles per wk in jpn and sits at 550k LTD with the ps3 ready to crack 2 million in a couple of weeks. Couple that alongside 360's dismal HW sales along with poor sales performance of LO, Eternal Sonata, etc and I'd say that jrpg devs will very, very soon turn their back on any further 360 rpg exclusivity timed or otherwise unless the moneyhats are too big to deny (Namco says Hello!). After all, j-devs are making these rpgs for a primarily japanese audience. Whats the point if there's no user base in their target market to partake???
Kill Your Masters
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I don't. The work on part 2 and 3 probably wont be that long as for the first one, as they already have the universe, the "main" story, the species of the galaxy etc etc. worked out already. Content creation from now on. I doubt they need 3-4 Years for the next installment. I will be highly disappointed if ME2 doesn't hit 2009.Mutagenic said:
What?
Xisiqomelir
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In after DS.
Of the given choices, I'd say PS3
Of the given choices, I'd say PS3
Yet Tales of vesperia is coming to 360 first(and possibly SO4)...... and LO didn't sell bad at all.juicyfruitas said:
You also have to factor in the next couple Mistwalker games... Cry On, Blue Dragon 2, Lost Odyssey 2 will probably all hit this gen still and after seeing the improvement from BD -> LO it's completly possible to assume the next Mistwalker game will easily be as good as FFXIII or possibly better. Meanwhile we won't see another FF this gen after XIII/Versus.
That's just going over Jpn RPGs, if you count in WRPGs there really is no competition 360 takes it hands down.
You might die before ''Longterm'' games make it out for whatever console. So just enjoy what ever you're leaning more towards with whats available now. Also by time all the games are out you might be able to afford both anyway.
I can't believe list wars include untold legends... really scraping the barrel there.
I can't believe list wars include untold legends... really scraping the barrel there.
Guy Legend
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AdamBot said:
I want more info on this...
DC was the best choice for JRPG in 2000-2001
It is all about Square and FF, primarly because this is where the JRPG market will be both in the west or in the East. FFXIII will be the only one with potential of sells in the millions. It will build the ps3 RPG market by itself, and most probable the JRPG HD home console market will be on ps3 as well.
I expect all current - except BD and Lo - X360 games to be ported, like it was for Eternal Sonata.
It is all about Square and FF, primarly because this is where the JRPG market will be both in the west or in the East. FFXIII will be the only one with potential of sells in the millions. It will build the ps3 RPG market by itself, and most probable the JRPG HD home console market will be on ps3 as well.
I expect all current - except BD and Lo - X360 games to be ported, like it was for Eternal Sonata.
the best advice you can really have is to wait. waiting will also allow you to pick up some of the games cheaper 
there's a lot of people who weren't really expecting so many jRPGs on the 360. people thought it'd be a clean sweep for the PS3, and it hasn't been so far. it can easily change in probably the span of a year or two. however, one thing is certain, if you only have one system, you're gonna be missing at least a handful of decent-good RPGs.
there's a lot of people who weren't really expecting so many jRPGs on the 360. people thought it'd be a clean sweep for the PS3, and it hasn't been so far. it can easily change in probably the span of a year or two. however, one thing is certain, if you only have one system, you're gonna be missing at least a handful of decent-good RPGs.
The only real assumption is SO4..... BD2 is a given, so is LO2(thought it might end up being a 720 title)..... and do you honestly think there's even enough time left this generation for another full numbered Final fantasy?TheExodu5 said:
So in the end it's Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Tales, Cry on, Mass Effect, Too Human, Fable, Infinite Undiscovery, Elveon, Sacred 2, Spectral Force 3, Operation Darkness versus Final Fantasy, Digesa, WKS, Valkyrie of the Battlefield, Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 (RPG?),and Shin Megami Tensei 4.
In the past Square alone has decided the JRPG console but this time it's efforts are split..... Dragon quest is a DS/Wii title now and If there's another Kingdom Hearts for consoles it would likely be a Wii game. Plus SE didn't have Mistwalker to compete with in previous gens.....
I mean main-line FF games.. last gen we had FFX and FFXII but X hit alot sooner then XIII is going to and development periods are longer this gen. XIII is going to be in 09.... the next gen will most likely start in either 2010 or 2011.... that leaves 2 years for another Main-line FF game to come out.AdamBot said:
juicyfruitas
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Ariexv said:
All I'm saying is that 360 jrpg development is soon gonna grind to a halt if it hasn't done so already. While the current and near-term releases of jrpg's on the 360 is decent, this flow is based on dev deals set in motion 1-2 years ago and based on the current performance and outlook of the 360 in jpn, no further major development will take place.
Like you mention though, the only major continued support we may see will be indeed from Mistwalker (which for all intents and purposes is a MS 1st Party), but based on the fact that BD sold poorly in the States and that LO struggled in Japan whats the likelihood of MS pumping the same development dollars they initially did into these titles? Prospect seems bleak IMO.
B-Rad Lascelle
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Evidently, Japanese RPG publishers don't want American $$.gkrykewy said:
They want Japanese $$. After all, American $$ isn't worth much these days.
So they'll weep and cry while their titles sell well in other gaijin territories because the X360 never sold in Japan and then take their profits, crawl into a cave while porting their titles to the DS.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Seriously the JRPG war is not over. I mean hell the next Persona game is PS2-bound for crying out loud. People are looking towards FFXIII to change things but I wonder how that's going to happen. Sure FF13 will sell a couple million or so but it's running on a huge budget, a budget that dwarfs most jrpg-developers entire net-worth. These guys are going to look at FF13 and wonder how they're going to sell games on a system whose owners expect an FF13-level of quality.
If they can reach an acceptable level of graphic-fidelity without compromising their design what's stopping them from looking towards developing on the Wii or even the 360? The Wii benefits from a huge installed base while the 360 has a very hardcore market prone to purchasing any and every game that comes out.
While we have seen a rising number of multiplatform releases I find it hard to ignore the more prevalent existence of developers who won't be able to afford such endeavors and as such will focus all of their development on a particular system and as of right now it's all up in the air.
Then again we do have a pattern here, the lion's share of RPG development has always followed the release of an FF game so it could just as easily be history repeating itself.
If they can reach an acceptable level of graphic-fidelity without compromising their design what's stopping them from looking towards developing on the Wii or even the 360? The Wii benefits from a huge installed base while the 360 has a very hardcore market prone to purchasing any and every game that comes out.
While we have seen a rising number of multiplatform releases I find it hard to ignore the more prevalent existence of developers who won't be able to afford such endeavors and as such will focus all of their development on a particular system and as of right now it's all up in the air.
Then again we do have a pattern here, the lion's share of RPG development has always followed the release of an FF game so it could just as easily be history repeating itself.
B-Rad Lascelle
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Wii 2Ariexv said:
You think they're gonna sit on their ass and let MS/Nintendo be the only next gen consoles? The average Console lifespan is ~5 years... 2010 will put the 360 in it's 5th year and 2011 will put the Wii/Ps3 in it's 5th year... considering a small 1 year head start put MS ahead of Sony and in a position to definitely beat the Ps3 compared to outselling it's competitors 5 to 1 do you think Sony will make that same mistake twice? The Ps4 will come in 2012 at the absolute latest.inner-G said:
Ariexv said:
You do know that there are many different teams at S-E developing different FF simultaneously since S-E is a huuuuuuuge company unlike many devs that focus on one game at a single time?
If I'm not mistaken, Final Fantasy 13 is being developed by the same team that did Final fantasy 10, a game which was released in 2001, and yes even before Final fantasy 12 was released. So I have no doubt that the FF12 team is also currently working on the next FF as well.
However, once FF13 finishes, developing on the PS3 will be much easier since they already made the engine on the system and everything is ready for them. The foundation has already been done, and that is the hardest part of the development process. I fully expect the next FF to be released this generation since it would be dumb not to take advantage of the expensive engine they created. Plus, by the time FF13 is released on the PS3, the console will be just 2 years old. Its still a baby, considering how long its predecessors lasted.
Choke on the Magic
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