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Best Star Wars lightsaber duel
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My answer.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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Not sure if you're defending the episode 1 duel or not. I'll say that the duel ultimately wasn't that great because there really wasn't a whole lot of tension between Darth Maul and the Jedi. Yeah, Darth Maul attacked Qui-Gon once before in the movie but there was hardly any buildup or reason for them to hate each other. Darth Maul was really just a boring, mute character who looked ridiculous. His appeal was basically limited to 8 year olds (and apparently some GAFers).
Zod the Bear
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Hey Zod! Not surprising seeing an old Jcer in this thread.
I remembered that was a place and posted today! Nice to see you over here.
Snowden's Secret
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I love the acrobatic fights of the prequel trilogy, because there's literally nothing else like it in cinema.
My favorites are Darth Maul and Obi v Anakin.
My favorites are Darth Maul and Obi v Anakin.
Chinpoko_Master
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This is why the lightsaber duels in the prequels are shit. Way too much choreography and not enough tension.
DrForester
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This is the correct answer. It was awesome, and was handled by the master of film swordplay.
Plinkett being right is reason to discredit the statement?
That's what happens when you get a martial arts expert to choreograph your fights and not a sword fighting expert.
What a legend.
This. I've enjoyed a number of the fights in the films but this is my favorite. Vader is controlling that entire fight and there is no doubt at all about that. Then he pushes just an inch to far and sets Luke off, the music changes and that really seals the deal for me. I've never rewound my VHS copy of ROTJ so much as a kid to rewatch that scene. Even easier now with dvd.
Second would have to be the Darth Maul fight against Obi-won and Qui-gon in Episode 1.
This would have to be my third.
Edit:
As suggested there are number of fights in the Clone Wars shows that shouldn't be overlooked. Which brings me to my third pick.
This would have to be my third.
With an honorable mention for the following.
General Grievous vs Jedi (including Aayla Secura, Ki-Adi-Mundi and Shaak Ti along with some padawans) in the Clone Wars cartoon (Genndy Tartakovsky)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4
1:18 is the Grievous I wanted in Episode 3.
Discotheque
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he taught viggo mortensen in lord of the rings and apparently said he was "the best swordsman I've ever trained"
i liked the fight choreography in there much more than the star wars prequels. RIP to the homie, they should hire somebody similar rather than the prequel choreographer. i did not enjoy that as much.
and also....Viggo for a new sith lord
i liked the fight choreography in there much more than the star wars prequels. RIP to the homie, they should hire somebody similar rather than the prequel choreographer. i did not enjoy that as much.
and also....Viggo for a new sith lord
Does expanded universe count?
http://youtu.be/y3k45xlAXYU
http://youtu.be/y3k45xlAXYU
Anticitizen One
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I thought everyone knows Return of the Jedi had the best duel
Spring-Loaded
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LotR films definitely had good fights. I usually find medieval fantasy action to usually be trite and bland, yet I found the action had good flow in these movies.
Oh no you don't, that wasn't kendo Bob Anderson was a fencing master and he used european sword fighting styles in OT.
Rabbit Lord
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For sure.
This. The part when luke snaps. Love the music at that part.
It will be prequel "hey look this flip looks cool and flashy, now twirl that saber" crap which is damn shame. I'm one of few with faith in new films be solid films but I suspect lightsaber conflicts be weakest part
Bucket Mouse
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RotJ Luke/Vader duel narrowly edges out the ESB Luke/Vader duel for me, but it's close. They're both amazingly cinematic set-pieces with different emotional undercurrents. The ESB duel remains the most aesthetically beautiful and iconic with those oranges and blues; whereas the comparatively utilitarian lack of visual flair in the RotJ duel serves to highlight the bleakness and finality of the situation.
If we're even going to acknowledge the prequels for shits and giggles, the final fight in TPM is probably the best of those films.
If we're even going to acknowledge the prequels for shits and giggles, the final fight in TPM is probably the best of those films.
DrForester
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So cool that he was 89 years old and still working at this when he died. Was doing The Hobbit. Died doing what he loved.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I can't take anyone seriously who even rates the prequel fights. Like the movies themselves, just empty garbage. Over-choreographed and zero emotional weight. The only moment Lucas may have gotten right in TPM is when Maul is trapped behind that door, pacing like a bull.
BattleMonkey
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Clone Wars isn't EU. Lucas worked on the series, majority of the episodes in the final 3 seasons were his creations.
Aeriscloud
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I like the Palpatine/Yoda duel.
DrForester
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Two characters who shouldn't have to use lightsabers in a lighsaber duel.
Yoda and Palpatine should have been a purely force power battle.
Yoda and Palpatine should have been a purely force power battle.
TheVampire
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Are the Jedi allowed to use Red coloured lightsabers?
I mean its just a colour.
I mean its just a colour.
That's an interesting question for Abrams. My guess is he'll go back to a more kendo style.
googleplex
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This is the correct answer. All of the lightsaber/force duals in the prequels completely shits on the ones in the original movies.
Any other answer is full of false childhood memories and nonsense.
Why would anyone pick anything other than this. I don't understand it.
They like unrealistic, impractical, showy choreography.
MoonLightWave
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Probably this.
I wish we could have a movie in the Star Wars expanded universe.
Why can't we have nice things?
schroddycat
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I definitely agree. Would have liked to see Yoda portrayed as a bulwark of living force, like a torrential wave without sound or sight.
DrForester
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All the fights in the OT are far more "realistic" than the choreographed dances in the prequels.
Probably this.
I wish we could have a movie in the Star Wars expanded universe.
Why can't we have nice things?
That CG trailer always looked silly to me. It just looks ridiculous.
The prequel fights were terrible. They weren't even trying to hit each other. They were aiming for each others swords. It's like it threw all pretense out.
The cinematography in Empire Strikes Back's duel is some of the most beautiful, iconic scenes in movie history. Not Star Wars history. Movie history. The obvious difference in skill levels as Vader's just like 'fuck this kid' and Luke's trying his hardest, thinking he's the hero, he's going to win and not realizing he's never faced anything close to Vader's level
I remember making up arguments too. I certainly don't remember people laughing when Yoda was hopping around. Oh wait, no, I exactly remember that because of how goofy all the action scenes were. Sure, maybe the DBZ crowd liked it.
The cinematography in Empire Strikes Back's duel is some of the most beautiful, iconic scenes in movie history. Not Star Wars history. Movie history. The obvious difference in skill levels as Vader's just like 'fuck this kid' and Luke's trying his hardest, thinking he's the hero, he's going to win and not realizing he's never faced anything close to Vader's level
Then ROTJ seeing the pure emotion in the fight. Luke snapping and not swinging like a skilled swordsman, even like the sith did. Swinging like a maniac, just wanting to kill him.
I remember making up arguments too. I certainly don't remember people laughing when Yoda was hopping around. Oh wait, no, I exactly remember that because of how goofy all the action scenes were. Sure, maybe the DBZ crowd liked it.
Right, that was my point. The PT fights might look "fun" at first, but they are entirely illogical.
Grievous vs some Jedis
in the cartoon Clone Wars is pretty amazing choreography wise. Love Grievous completely unnatural fighting style.
Of course is there zero emotional connection to anything which is why it can't compete with rotj
in the cartoon Clone Wars is pretty amazing choreography wise. Love Grievous completely unnatural fighting style.
Of course is there zero emotional connection to anything which is why it can't compete with rotj
But then how would the people in the theatre know what's happening?
Tesseract
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do what dark city did, make that shit visible.
Mixture of both. I'd like seeing some of the more agile type of lightsaber users be taken down by brute force of the kendo/samurai styles, and vice versa. There's room for both.
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