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Bethesda registers Fallout 4 trademark

Day one
after the patch

Joking aside, always excited to play some more Fallout. I do hope they try and continue in adding more depth (quests,skills and perks and all that good stuff) a la New Vegas but after Skyrim I am not particularly hopeful.
 
Anyone out there who liked Fallout 3 AND Fallout New Vegas?

Here. Both games excel in ways that the other doesn't. Fallout 3 offers a more open, interesting world to explore. New Vegas offers more combat variety and a better-written story. As someone who prefers New Vegas, let's not pretend for a second that Obsidian would be capable of developing a game like that without the groundwork Bethesda initially provided.
 
Here. Both games excel in ways that the other doesn't. Fallout 3 offers a more open, interesting world to explore. New Vegas offers more combat variety and a better-written story. As someone who prefers New Vegas, let's not pretend for a second that Obsidian would be capable of developing a game like that without the groundwork Bethesda initially provided.

Bethesda couldn't have made Fallout 3 at all without Obsidian (Black Isle).
 
New Vegas is superior in every single way to FO3. The capital wasteland was just so very bland and poorly thought out.

If Obsidian isn't involved in FO4, I'm not interested.
 
Crafting and quests are way better in New Vegas

Disagree about the quests, and their branching paths. I found them pretty much the same, go here kill that, talk to him, etc. The set piece events in New Vegas were pretty weak as well. The finale is about as ho-hum as you can get once you get to the Dam. It's the interaction with NPCs and the life they breathe into the world that made it stand out for me.
 
Disagree about the quests, and their branching paths. I found them pretty much the same, go here kill that, talk to him, etc. The set piece events in New Vegas were pretty weak as well. The finale is about as ho-hum as you can get once you get to the Dam. It's the interaction with NPCs and the life they breathe into the world that made it stand out for me.

Better than one that makes no sense like 3 though.
 
Anyone out there who liked Fallout 3 AND Fallout New Vegas?

I really enjoyed both games. I feel like 3 was more richly populated, but the choices you made mattered more in NV.

After hours much I really enjoyed Fallout 3/NV, I was really surprised by how boring I thought Skyrim was.

I can't wait to see what they're doing in Fallout 4, I think it will benefit greatly from next gen tech.
 
You know very well I'm talking about the game, not the franchise. Fallout 3 could have been a Mad Max game and still be an inherently "Bethesda" product, for better and worse.

A buggy, jank filled mess on the Gamebryo engine with no Obsidian followup.

I really don't get Bethesda with the Gamebryo engine. I mean, Divinity 2 uses it and they have decent enough animations in it given the time period. Warhammer Online uses it and looks good/runs good. But Bethesda for all their love of it can't seem to get it right. It begs the question of whether the engine sucks or otherwise.

I mean, seriously, look at the Gamebryo engine games:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamebryo

Catherine, Dark Age of Camelot, Warhammer Online, Divinity 2...

I really hope they have Id make them an engine for their games and lay off Gamebryo. Then again, it could prove once and for all whether it's the engine or the developers themselves.

I don't hate Bethesda. I loved Daggerfall & Morrowind, but Oblivion I could not stomach. I did platinum Skyrim on PS3 though so that says something I imagine (Whether good or sado masochistic I don't know).
 
?? That's what Fallout is.... that's like asking for a GTA that doesn't take place in America.

Huh? There is a lot of places that the Fallout universe has referenced to that isn't in America, particularly in the early story. (China, Canada, and Russia) it'd be interesting to visit those areas in a future installment imo.

P.S. Although the style might have to change a little, the early games did take after a lot from the culture of 1950's North America
 
Huh? There is a lot of places that the Fallout universe has referenced to that isn't in America, particularly in the early story. (China, Canada, and Russia) it'd be interesting to visit those areas in a future installment imo.

That's not what he meant, Fallout as a series is inexorably tied with 50's americana, it would cease to be Fallout if you set it in China etc.
 
Huh? There is a lot of places that the Fallout universe has referenced to that isn't in America, particularly in the early story. (China, Canada, and Russia) it'd be interesting to visit those areas in a future installment imo.

P.S. Although the style might have to change a little, the early games did take after a lot from the culture of 1950's North America
I can see Canada since it was annexed by America, but other than that I think the series would lose a lot of its unique charm in a different country. The retro post-war America vibe is one of my favourite things about the series.
 
Anyone out there who liked Fallout 3 AND Fallout New Vegas?

Yeah. New Vegas took some time to grow on me, but now it's up there with my best games ever. Fallout 3 pretty much hooked me from the get-go.

Replaying 3 with Project Reality installed right now, and it's cool. Really cool.
 
Yeah. New Vegas took some time to grow on me, but now it's up there with my best games ever. Fallout 3 pretty much hooked me from the get-go.

Replaying 3 with Project Reality installed right now, and it's cool. Really cool.

Thats one of the benefits of a Bethesda game. Their commitment to the modding community is really admirable. I love tinkering with stuff, adding mods and getting my game to play just how I want (or close to it at least). It extended the life of all of their games immeasurably for me.
 
Like everyone's saying, I'll get excited when they announce that Obsidian is developing it.

It's not that Fallout 3 is a bad game, but it's so incredibly blah. You know something's wrong when the fucking Nevada desert has more character and landmarks than Capital Wasteland. About the only thing you have to look forward to in FO3 outside of the city itself are a bunch of rocks, the occasional burned down house, and dozens upon dozens of subway stops. New Vegas has far more places to explore, frequent and better written quests, and is just overall a more interesting game. If Bethesda is developing the sequel, hopefully they take New Vegas as a blueprint and try to bring some more contrast to the setting.

Edit: Wait. People actually think Capital Wasteland's more interesting? Maybe, if you only think about the DC mall area and get excited over ruined memorials.
Blah doesnt do it justice...you guys should just download the restoration project for fallout 2 and play that...anything fallout3 beyond blah...
 
Thats one of the benefits of a Bethesda game. Their commitment to the modding community is really admirable. I love tinkering with stuff, adding mods and getting my game to play just how I want (or close to it at least). It extended the life of all of their games immeasurably for me.

Yup and you can see this with how long Skyrim stayed on the most played list on Steam. For everybody's bitching, Bethesda has been pretty good to me.
 
Blah doesnt do it justice...you guys should just download the restoration project for fallout 2 and play that...anything fallout3 beyond blah...

I feel like Fallout 1 and 2 are kind of "You would have had to have been there to understand" sort of games. As amazing as a lot of people still find them to be today it's definitely hard for the uninitiated to get into. Especially if you don't get a PDF version of the manuals. IDK it's been years since I've played
 
I guess someone has already said this, but....Fallout 4 teaser at the VGA next month?

Ja, I think so. I feel an announcement is well due, and if the release date is ~Q4 2014 an announcement at the VGX this year would work wonderfully with a Bethesda marketing cycle. It and Mass Effect 4 are the most likely appearances in my opinion, alongside a proper Uncharted 4 reveal.
 
Ja, I think so. I feel an announcement is well due, and if the release date is ~Q4 2014 an announcement at the VGX this year would work wonderfully with a Bethesda marketing cycle. It and Mass Effect 4 are the most likely appearances in my opinion, alongside a proper Uncharted 4 reveal.

HL3. Believe.
 
Gotta get through Left 4 Dead 3 as a frontrunner for Source 2 first. Then Portal 3, followed by Team Fortress 3. DOTA3 should be due sometime after that, the stretch finishing up with something Counter-Strike.

Only then will Valve be ready to reveal outsourced Half-Life 3.
 
Honestly I would not buy this on console even if it meant waiting a whole year after release before I could afford a new gaming rig. The mods added a lot to New Vegas in my opinion. Fallout is just not a console series to me.
 
Anyone out there who liked Fallout 3 AND Fallout New Vegas?

Fallout 3 is my game of the generation, followed closely by Mass Effect 2. I just think it's missions were more varied or at least more interesting. You could blow up a whole city!! But I still enjoyed NV and would like Bethesda to make F4.
 
I dont understand why NV (at least on gaf) is praised so much more than 3.
In my opinion, NV had...
-boring quests
-worse music
-worse DLC
-companions weren't as good as 3
-the Vegas Strip was lame

+but the guns and combat were largely improved

IMO

Wasn't that just adding of iron sights?
 
I know this'd be a pipe dream but I'd love to see the first 2 Fallouts ported to the new consoles, even if they were downloads as part of a Fallout 4 CE. The isometic gameplay could easily work with a controller, and with the new PC-like architecture I don't think it'd be that difficult to make them work, like how the original CoD got thrown in as a download with the Prestige Edition of MW2.
 
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