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[Kralamoonard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGK1wELgerU

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30fps and still "cinematic" borders with no option to take them off :/

To be honest, you could partly tell what type of remaster it was going to be with the surprise release date announcement + price. Probably just to get people to buy it who didn't manage to buy it first time round.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Between 17 and 30fps, I'll take 30.

 

[Noray]

extra cinematic

Between 17 and 30fps, I'll take 30.

Wow I had no idea it was that bad on PS3

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Honestly, this doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. It should be 60 fps.

 

[Y2Kev]

It should not be 60 fps. This is a game where the framerate is "cinematic" intentionally.

 

[Real_Madrid]

Very strange release. Almost no advertising for this one, while GOW 3 on the other hand had a great advertising campaign and probably sold decent.

Why didn't they just wait till the Heavy Rain remaster? I would be hyped for it, but a 30fps remaster that has black borders is a no go. Sounds like a cheap cash in, what's really strange, because there is a large audience that never had a PS3 and would probably be interested in this game.

 

[biglittleps]

Honestly, this doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. It should be 60 fps.

This game does not need 60 fps.

 

[matrix-cat]

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30fps and still "cinematic" borders with no option to take them off :/

Pfffff, jog on David Cage

 

[Guess Who]

Considering Cage's push to make his games like films, it's entirely possible 30fps and a 21:9 aspect ratio are deliberate choices.

That said, it seems like a pretty barebones remaster in general anyway.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Doesn't even look that different to me either

So only main reason I can see to buy this is the chronological order thing.

 

[rjc571]

Considering Cage's push to make his games like films, it's entirely possible 30fps and a 21:9 aspect ratio are deliberate choices.

That said, it seems like a pretty barebones remaster in general anyway.

Then why didn't he make it 24 fps

 

[dan2026]

Lol what a mess.

No thank you Mr Cage. No thank you.

 

[Kralamoonard]

Then why didn't he make it 24 fps

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It should not be 60 fps. This is a game where the framerate is "cinematic" intentionally.

Any game* objectively benefits from 60fps whether its from response time or gameplay fluidity. I'm not all that bothered by some games not targeting 60fps this gen (apart from some genres like FPS) but for remasters, it's the minimum I expect. Using the "filmic/cinematic look" is just a cop-out IMO.

*Apart from South Park stick of truth.

 

[thekiddfran]

Doesn't even look that different to me either

So only main reason I can see to buy this is the chronological order thing.

It is worth it just for that option

 

[Y2Kev]

Then why didn't he make it 24 fps

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Any game* objectively benefits in its response time and gameplay fluidity by getting 60fps. I'm not all that bothered (apart from some genres like FPS games this gen) by some games not targeting it this gen, but for remasters, it's the minimum I expect. Using the "filmic/cinematic look" is just a cop-out IMO.

*Apart from South Park stick of truth.

If you watch the framerate test, you will see he did make it 24 fps!

 

[Loudninja]

Lol what a mess.

No thank you Mr Cage. No thank you.

I dont get it how is this a mess?

Yes - it's another remaster. But it's safe to say that Beyond: Two Souls had serious performance issues on PlayStation 3, and all the kinks are ironed out on PS4. Plus there are a number of visual upgrades in place too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGK1wELgerU

Spoiler

30fps and still "cinematic" borders with no option to take them off :/

To be honest, you could partly tell what type of remaster it was going to be with the surprise release date announcement + price. Probably just to get people to buy it who didn't manage to buy it first time round.

So a good remaster?

 

[ElTorro]

Lol what a mess.

No thank you Mr Cage. No thank you.

Huh?

The game seems to run at locked 30fps on PS4. How is that a mess?

 

[Kralamoonard]

If you watch the framerate test, you will see he did make it 24 fps!

lol

I dont get it how is this a mess?

It's not; I think it's just hyperbole on that person's part, but generally speaking I would have liked a few things to come with the remaster (considering the price point of course, I'm not surprised why), but ideally:

- An option to take off black borders
- An option for a 60fps target frame rate

Considering it is a remaster on much more powerful hardware I thought at least the second option would be a given. Of course that may require much more effort so I guess I do have to factor budget and time costs into account particularly as this is done all in house, and not out-sourced to an external studio like Bluepoint, but yeah, in an ideal world I guess.

So a good remaster?

I don't want to say "port" type remaster since that would imply no changes at all, but when you compare it to some great remasters like Uncharted, or Metro, then I wouldn't say good.

I'd say it's an "ok" remaster. Nothing special nor worthy of good. Of course it's important to understand that this is not my final verdict as we still haven't seen the full Face-Off and any other possible visual enhancements, but this is just first impressions.

 

[Guess Who]

Then why didn't he make it 24 fps

Because vsync would be a motherfucker, probably.

 

[boredandlazy]

Then why didn't he make it 24 fps

Because 24fps would produce a juddery mess on any display that doesn't have a 24p mode?

Edit:Vsync too, as above.

 

[ElTorro]

Because 24fps would produce a juddery mess on any display that doesn't have a 24p mode?

I'd think that all displays made over the last years support 24hz. Otherwise, they would be bad for playing actual movies.

Some game should really run in 1080p@24, just for the lulz.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

never got round to playing this on PS3 so will definitely be getting it on PS4. happy to see it now has a solid framerate and looks a lot cleaner. definitely not a game that needs 60fps.

 

[omonimo]

Lol what a mess.

No thank you Mr Cage. No thank you.

I'm not sure what 60 fps could change in a game like this.

 

[Gurish]

It is a stealth release, of course they didn't put any effort into it.

 

[paperspace]

There should be a new word for this type of "remaster".

 

[Carl]

Played it for about 3 hours last night and didn't even notice the black borders were still there *shrug*

 

[jett]

It should not be 60 fps. This is a game where the framerate is "cinematic" intentionally.

30fps isn't cinematic tho.

PS3 definitive version confirmed, PS4 fail.

 

[Mendrox]

PS3 Version with CFW has borderless option!

Really sad that the PS4 version doesn't have it...

 

[bryanee]

No option to remove the borders yet? I might buy it again to play the story in order if they got rid of them.

 

[dragonbane]

Honestly, this doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. It should be 60 fps.

Ya know, except for stuff like this:

PS3:

PS4:

PS3:

PS4:

PS3:

PS4:

PS3:

PS4:

From compressed twitch streams, but I think it illustrates the point well.

 

[Guess Who]

Ya know, except for stuff like this:
PS3:

PS4:

PS4 will grill your steaks: new feature leaks ahead of PSX

 

[jimbobsmells]

PS4 will grill your steaks: new feature leaks ahead of PSX

I thought the PS3 was the true grill? Foreman you've failed me for the last time.

 

[LordOfChaos]

17 FPS on PS3 at points...This was not the swan song you were looking for.

 

[ElTorro]

It is a stealth release, of course they didn't put any effort into it.

I am personally perfectly fine with a simple but solid port/remaster, given that the game's price is quite reasonable compared to other remasters.

 

[dragonbane]

It is a stealth release, of course they didn't put any effort into it.

Well that's just a lie. They would never make it 60 fps even if they could, because this type of game benefits nothing from it. Locked 30 fps with motion blur is perfectly suitable, especially when it allows you to upgrade visuals elsewhere, which has a much bigger benefit on this type of game than 60 fps would have. Even if you just watch twitch streams the game looks very fluid on PS4. There really is not much of a point. Also, it's 29,99 and you even get a discount on HR.

I am personally perfectly fine with a simple but solid port/remaster, given that the game's price is quite reasonable compared to other remasters.

It's not even true as they completely changed some scenes assets and textures (even added new ones). Particle effects are highly improved, the hair animates much faster and it looks more fluid. A lot of stuff like that.

 

[UrbanRats]

Aliasing and a stronger (ugly as fuck) bloom are what jumped out at me in that video, honestly, even before the 30fps.
I didn't play it on PS3, but i'll probably skip it again.

 

[Jacobi]

The comparison screenshots look fantastic. And cinematic borders don't bother me at all (if they are bothered you don't have a big enough TV).

 

[Ce-Lin]

such an amazing game, of course I've double-dipped.

 

[Ce-Lin]

dp

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

dp

Double-dipped.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Looks like one of the better remasters for adding and improving environment assets. I think they (still don't know if QD or someone else did this) should've implemented TAA and fine tuned the scenes with chunky self-shadowing with the comfortable 30fps cap though.

There's some strangeness with DoF strength and post-process buffer filtering they should patch at least and fix before the Blu-ray release.

 

[dragonbane]

17 FPS on PS3 at points...This was not the swan song you were looking for.

Yeah, quite rough in parts:

It was still the best looking PS3 game, but FPS wasn't its greatest strength.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Its 29.99 and basically stealth launched...i didn't think it was gonna be all that huge an effort, you can kinda tell with these things. Similar to Dishonored HD

 

[Harmen]

30 fps is fine for this game. Interested in seeing how the game holds up on PS4, I thought it was extremely impressive on PS3.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Someone should check the credits and see if anyone assisted with the remaster.

Its 29.99 and basically stealth launched...i didn't think it was gonna be all that huge an effort, you can kinda tell with these things. Similar to Dishonored HD

Dishonored was a pretty poor remaster, no?

 

[RoboPlato]

Pretty much what I expected out of this release.

I'd think that all displays made over the last years support 24hz. Otherwise, they would be bad for playing actual movies.

Some game should really run in 1080p@24, just for the lulz.

There is an option to run Godzilla at 24fps with filters down from 60.

 

[Shin-Ra]

There is an option to run Godzilla at 24fps with filters down from 60.

Does it set the PS4 output to 30 or 24Hz?

 

[DJ Lushious]

And cinematic borders don't bother me at all (if they are bothered you don't have a big enough TV).

Nice ridiculous assumption you've just made. I loathe cinematic borders in video games, as I have an HDTV that can burn-in.

 

[InsaneTiger]

Between 17 and 30fps, I'll take 30.

This this this. Beyond ran awful on PS3. Considering his vision of a cinematic experience, 30fps is appropriate.

 

[Silvard]

I don't understand how people don't understand that "black borders" is an artistic choice, like color palette or scene composition or the actual story of the game, not a technical drawback that needs to be "fixed". You can still disagree with them, but at least do so for the right reasons.