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Bicycle age

bosseye

Member
I'm in Bristol, so about an hours drive from BPW. I don't get the chance to go as much as I'd like what with family commitments etc.

Goals for this year are to get my fitness up a bit. I've not done the uplift yet, I've been preferring to get to the top under my own steam (get me fitter and save the £35) so working on my general fitness will make this a more enjoyable prospect...and also try and get out there more often. At the end of the day last time, I was just pootling very slowly back to the car park and both my thigh muscles cramped out, locked my legs straight and I wobbled off, it was hilarious. Luckily no one was around to see and I was able to disguise it as me just having a little sit down in the verge until I was able to bend my legs again after a minute or so.

YT are indeed phenomenal value. I was all set to get a Giant Reign 2, but in the end I couldn't ignore the savings on the Capra.
 

Mascot

Member
I'm in Bristol, so about an hours drive from BPW. I don't get the chance to go as much as I'd like what with family commitments etc.

I'm just over the estuary on the Chepstow side. PT lives down a mine in deepest darkest Clwdyyddrchbiscuitdimdom.

Bristol's got some great biking right on your doorstep, but you probably know this. Ashton Court has custom-cut trails which are fun (but lacking a little elevation) but you can also go off-piste in the surrounding grounds (and nearby woods) to find some hills. A short ride from there is Ashton Hill Plantation (Belmont Woods) which has decent loops and massive jumps and serious elevation. Then of course there's Leigh Woods, which is superb. All these areas are pretty close to each other.
 
Only problem with the BPW climb is that it's BORING. I can actually do it in a similar sort of speed to the uplift now, but that's a crazy sort of pace that I can only do a couple of times.

Did you try Bonneyville? That one scares me a bit, and the new drop into A470 line.
 
I learned a great trick yesterday: reusable chain connectors like KMC's Missing Link can be detached by using a length of old gear or brake cable. Simply wrap the cable around the link and pull it tight.
 
Yo, mountain biking folks got a technical question for you

When on a steep climb (13%) I notice I'll tend to lose all weight over my front tire at a certain point. What's the best way to go about dealing with this? Should I get up on the seat before I get into that part of the climb, bigger gear, what.
 
So get up on it early?

My thighs tend to blow up big time on climbs so I always tend to spin and be back, but I'll try to just get that way from the beginning.
 
Pretty much everything has to be timed beforehand or there will be trouble, at least for me.

I forgot to add, have a low enough gear for spinning. I have this one climb (21%) where I almost invariably get spooked by lack of gearing and the feeling of falling over. So I end up pushing the bike.
 
I learned the gearing thing quick. I try to get into something as I make the turn into the hill, but it also sucks because I feel like I expel so much energy before I get to it.
 
Always change into the gear you're going to end up needing as early as possible. If your front is lifting often then you may be doing climbs that your bike just isn't built for (there's a reason full on XC bikes have steep geometry and long stems).

Being on the rivet will help, as will keeping your core locked to enable the most efficient / smooth power delivery... but there's a limit.

Just checked, steepest (avg) climb I've done is 30.7% without walking. Bastard tough though.
 

HTupolev

Member
Speaking of snow, more pics from my ride yesterday:

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Getting my yearly bonus in a month and it's pretty much spent out already:

Mountain Bike
Wahoo Kickr
Ritchey Cross Fork
New wheelset (really just a duplicate of what I have so I can quickly swap between 32 & 42s)
MAYBE converting from 2x to 1x
 

HTupolev

Member
So as of the new year, how is everyone else doing on the quest to become a crazy bike hoarder person and accumulate lots of horizontal-top-tube steel bicycles?

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Mascot

Member
So as of the new year, how is everyone else doing on the quest to become a crazy bike hoarder person and accumulate lots of horizontal-top-tube steel bicycles?

Nope, I'm back down to one bike again now* and am all the better for it.

*not including the GT hung on the wall as art.
 
I could give away my road bike tomorrow and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I can cover the exact same terrain, just at a time penalty.
 

Mascot

Member
I could give away my road bike tomorrow and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

I can cover the exact same terrain, just at a time penalty.

And you'd be fitter by the end of it than if you took the Jimmy. ;)

In all seriousness, the neighbour I regularly MTB with blames his deteriorating fitness on use of his road bike. When he just had the MTB he was a lot, lot fitter.
 
And you'd be fitter by the end of it than if you took the Jimmy. ;)

There's definite truth to that. The terrain I did over the holiday would have been pretty easy on a road bike. But 375 miles with 350,000 feet of climbing definitely wasn't easy on a 26" wheeled mountain bike with 2.4" knobblies on.

Edit - The argument could of course be that I'd have done more. But that wouldn't have been the case as my primary motivation was the 500km between Christmas and New Year.
 
I find on the road bike I take a lot more coasting breaks, while on the mountain bike I can't stop pedalling or I'll get dropped

I still plan on having two bikes; 1 mountain bike and 1 do-it-all gravel grinder
 

Mascot

Member
Been faffing around with YouTube's image stabilisation, and for the most part it works pretty well. It can get a bit janky and artifact-heavy sometimes and seems to fuck up the 60fps more often than not, but it makes bumpy footage easier to view. This is some footage of one of the Cwmcarn Cafall descents from December (can't remember which section). In the original footage the helmet peak at the bottom of the screen is in a rock-solidly fixed position, so you can see by its movement now just how much stabilisation is at work. The audio was fucked so I dropped some Bizet in because... well, if you don't like Carmen then there's no hope for you.

:p

Click for footage
 
I have semi slicks available to me on my 9kg race mountain bike...

...but no, you're not having my road bike. :p

Edit - Funnily enough, I think my mountain bike actually weighs less than my road bike.
 
Vaguely related; I was just looking at the qualifiers for the Leadville 100 (I've been told that you don't want to be in the final starting zone unless you want to be pushing up hills you could ride).

Closest is 9.5 hours away from me and would cost me somewhere in the region of 2000 GBP / 2500 USD. Blech.
 

bosseye

Member
I'm just over the estuary on the Chepstow side. PT lives down a mine in deepest darkest Clwdyyddrchbiscuitdimdom.

Bristol's got some great biking right on your doorstep, but you probably know this. Ashton Court has custom-cut trails which are fun (but lacking a little elevation) but you can also go off-piste in the surrounding grounds (and nearby woods) to find some hills. A short ride from there is Ashton Hill Plantation (Belmont Woods) which has decent loops and massive jumps and serious elevation. Then of course there's Leigh Woods, which is superb. All these areas are pretty close to each other.

Local boys, nice.

Yep, it was Ashton Court where I face planted on the Capra. It's fun, as is Leigh woods. Ashton Court has had the trail surface by the quarry resurfaced recently which was great, it's a lot better flowing now. On the older unsurfaced stuff it's all down to exposed rocks which make for super slippy surface in the winter.

Both are good for a couple of hours on a summer evening but both are lacking a bit of elevation (as you say) which can make them feel a little tame (but still able to catch me out, ha)
 

bosseye

Member
Only problem with the BPW climb is that it's BORING. I can actually do it in a similar sort of speed to the uplift now, but that's a crazy sort of pace that I can only do a couple of times.

Did you try Bonneyville? That one scares me a bit, and the new drop into A470 line.

It can be a drag. I don't want to pay for the uplift so I'm stuck heaving my fat arse up. I tend to avoid beast of burden as it's still a lot of effort and a lot slower than simply pushing on up the firetrack. I can prob do it in maybe 20-25 minutes perhaps. The first time. More like 30-40 minutes on subsequent ascents....That first bit just outside the centre though, I have to push the bike up there, way too steep for to ride up, stupid hills.

I've not tried Bonneyville yet. It's on my list. A470 is brilliant though, love the new biggish drop at the start and another cheeky one in the woods, then it's all jump territory, woooooo. I need to work on my jump technique though, I need to improve my confidence to get some proper air and clear all the table tops as oppose to just a couple of them.

So I'm aiming to improve some of my technique and then dabble in the black runs. Anyone know which one would be the 'easiest' one to tackle? Dai Hard perhaps?
 
Have a look at the sign at the top. It shows the trail progression (oddly I can't find this online).

What you really want is one of the flow blacks to start with as they'll be a lot easier than the tech blacks.

Edit this is a bit like it (though it's missing a couple of their newer trails):

BPW_Trail_Combos.jpg
 

Mascot

Member
I've not tried Bonneyville yet. It's on my list. A470 is brilliant though, love the new biggish drop at the start and another cheeky one in the woods, then it's all jump territory, woooooo. I need to work on my jump technique though, I need to improve my confidence to get some proper air and clear all the table tops as oppose to just a couple of them.

Belmont has jumps galore. If you ride at Ashton Court then Belmont is probably less than a mile away by bike if you cut through the hole in the big stone wall at the top of one of the trails. A mate used to live equidistant between Ashton Court and Belmont so we'd often do a few loops of AC then head to The Plantation. To give you an idea (also has Ashton Court footage from the main grounds, not the official trails):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KZUK7jDrwp://

That video is a few years old, I'm sure the 'bike park' bit has been extended greatly since then with more jumps and bigger gaps.

Edit: yep, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP60j-YnraQ#t=53.601865

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666Au1ULHbw
 

bosseye

Member
Belmont has jumps galore. If you ride at Ashton Court then Belmont is probably less than a mile away by bike if you cut through the hole in the big stone wall at the top of one of the trails. A mate used to live equidistant between Ashton Court and Belmont so we'd often do a few loops of AC then head to The Plantation. To give you an idea (also has Ashton Court footage from the main grounds, not the official trails):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KZUK7jDrwp://

That video is a few years old, I'm sure the 'bike park' bit has been extended greatly since then with more jumps and bigger gaps.

Edit: yep, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP60j-YnraQ#t=53.601865

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666Au1ULHbw

This is great, thanks! I had no idea Belmont existed. From the footage, some of those gap jumps are a bit outside my abilities/confidence, but I'll head down there as soon as and see for myself.
 

Mascot

Member
This is great, thanks! I had no idea Belmont existed. From the footage, some of those gap jumps are a bit outside my abilities/confidence, but I'll head down there as soon as and see for myself.

I think the trails there normally close for the winter to prevent damage, so you'll need to check when they open. Lots of the structure is just hard-packed dirt.
 

Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
So, I joined my first cycling group ride yesterday night and I had troubles keeping up... Do you guys think that my 16inch wheels put me at a disadvantage?
 

HTupolev

Member
So, I joined my first cycling group ride yesterday night and I had troubles keeping up... Do you guys think that my 16inch wheels put me at a disadvantage?
If it's a road ride, most likely not all that huge of a disadvantage, unless your roads are like cobbled or something. I'd almost guess that the availability of speedy tires in that size would be a larger issue.
 

frontieruk

Member
So, I joined my first cycling group ride yesterday night and I had troubles keeping up... Do you guys think that my 16inch wheels put me at a disadvantage?

If it's a road ride, most likely not all that huge of a disadvantage, unless your roads are like cobbled or something. I'd almost guess that the availability of speedy tires in that size would be a larger issue.

Is late, but as promsied, here's the bicycle with the 16'' tires.

Anyone know where I can find some quality 16'' rims!?

Looks a legit road bike to me,perhaps your gearing is wrong for the roads they're riding?
 
Seriously? That thing is as quick as a 700c wheel shod road bike?

I can tell the difference in speed between 26er mountain bikes and 29ers, so I'm utterly astonished that the same doesn't apply in road bikes.
 

Addnan

Member
I wonder if anyone has tested that lol. There's a lot of 700 vs 650, but that's pretty inconclusive. Will assume though that bike will not be able to keep up with a road bike even if it had the slickest tyres on the best surface and a road bike had mountain bike tyres.
 

frontieruk

Member
I wonder if anyone has tested that lol. There's a lot of 700 vs 650, but that's pretty inconclusive. Will assume though that bike will not be able to keep up with a road bike even if it had the slickest tyres on the best surface and a road bike had mountain bike tyres.

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HTupolev

Member
I wonder if anyone has tested that lol. There's a lot of 700 vs 650, but that's pretty inconclusive.
I've seen tests that indicate no trend on good roads, from 559 to 622. Obviously that's a much smaller range, though.

Will assume though that bike will not be able to keep up with a road bike even if it had the slickest tyres on the best surface and a road bike had mountain bike tyres.
Definitely not if we're only counting wheel/tire-related differences.

Seriously? That thing is as quick as a 700c wheel shod road bike?
Well, on the whole, most likely not.

The really major thing is that, if it's currently fit how it is in the picture, aerodynamics are going to be totally obliterating the rider if they're going any kind of speed. That bike is beach cruiser levels of upright.

I can tell the difference in speed between 26er mountain bikes and 29ers, so I'm utterly astonished that the same doesn't apply in road bikes.
Surface irregularities on trails tend to be a lot bigger, though, which should make the angle-of-attack matter more.
 
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