Fresh Face
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Wait, how recent? Are these the ones that purported to be of the canceled blur 2 project, or something I just don't know about?
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Wait, how recent? Are these the ones that purported to be of the canceled blur 2 project, or something I just don't know about?
I think he is talking about Blur, a studio that is well known for creating amazing CGI trailers for games and other media.
Edit: I said it nicer, Dafeef. I WIN.
Fresh Face
Banned
the injustice of this world is too great.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I'm sorry this might seem petty but you acting like MS has anything to do with quality and general gameplay styles of both Halo or Gear is ridiculous.
- Bungie is responsible for making Halo a FPS instead of a RTS.
- Epic is who was responsible for the cover mechanics of Gears.
Doesn't look like CG at all. That all seems relatively plausible. Not feeling the cartoony look of it though.
The amount MS had to do with the quality of those games: 0
The amount of money MS spent to make them exclusive: Untold
SlipperyMoose
Member
I'm pretty sure the Black Tusk game is a new IP. I wouldn't want a Perfect Dark anyway, I'm interested in new IP.
Well KillSwitch as I said was responsible for the cover shooter. Epic and MS merely saw the potential and took the idea to the masses.
As for Bungie and Halo, well again MS saw the potential in the idea of shooters being big on consoles. Without Microsofts support Halo or Gears would never have been as big as they are. So you're wrong when you say MS didn't have anything to do with both games.
BruceLeeRoy
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If your talking about Microsofts marketing than yes that was huge on their part and they are definitely responsible for making Halo a worldwide phenomenon. That said the quality and gameplay decisions of either Gears or Halo have nothing to do with the producers at MS. If anything these games turn out good despite their influence the majority of the time. As both Cliffy and Bungie have ranted about several times over.
Bungie being picked up by MS was no random stroke of genius either. That game was being hyped as the savior of macintosh gaming and everyone knew about it.
"And then Microsoft created man and it was good." - Hindle 3:16
Way to put MS up on that pedestal.
MS has nothing to do with the quality of the games you mentioned. Stop putting Ms on some pedestal that you can worship them on, when they don't even deserve it in the first place. Hindle, you seriously need to lay-off the MS love. It's practically making you blind.
Bungie was solely responsible for Halo and Epic for Gears. All MS did was moneyhat as they still do.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Well visually they are certainly a tour de force. I can't believe how good that game looks.
LukasTaves
Member
If they were tessellating the char based on camera distance wouldn't that make the silhouettes always perfectly rounded, specially when distance from the camera?
Gears was a partnership between MS and Epic. MS gave Epic unrivalled access to thier platform when making Gears, they had privileges no other developer had.
The point of my original comment was that MS are great at seeing potential in niche genres and making them huge. I expect they'll do this for stealth games.
Edit. I never even said MS had any hand in the developing of Halo or Gears, merely they saw simething big was being made. You've completely misunderstood my post.
Opus Angelorum
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It makes me wonder, if Microsoft have some genuinely impressive titles in development...what on earth are they waiting on?
It'll be interesting to see the quality of these games coming from these new studios. MS should know though, you can't just buy a good studio. A Naughty Dog kind of studio isn't a developer that can just be bought and put together willy-nilly.
Even still, I'll give studios like Osaka the benefit of the doubt.
Even still, I'll give studios like Osaka the benefit of the doubt.
maplelord93
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till big gaming events such as tgs,vga, and e3....like everyone else
BruceLeeRoy
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The start of this gen is very different for MS than the 360 was. There is no Gears equivalent for us to all drool over. There is no Halo 3 the culmination of one of the biggest sagas in gaming.
Instead the 360 went out with Gears of War Judgement effectively marring that franchise in the mud and Halo 4 proved that you can throw all the money you want at a team they aren't going to turn into Bungie.
Well okay then. I did misunderstand your post if that was what you were saying in which case the only title that I think shows great forethought on their part was Gears. Partnering with Epic came out of nowhere and was a great move. Bungie was going to be immense regardless of Microsofts involvement.
They've got Halo and Titanfall coming next year. They'll start talking about thier other games after those games have been released IMO.
Good thing you don't run MS. I want to be excited about next year for more than Halo and Titanfall.
It'd be interesting if it was a combination lethal/non-lethal weapon - bullets/taser.
Seems like many XBONE fans are still thinking this with new studios like Osaka and Black Tusk... Certainly, MS have thrown a lot of money at these studios, but will they actually churn out good games? Your example with 343 is a good one. Throwing money at the problem won't always help.
Along with that, I'm not expecting much more announcements from MS. It seems like they've played most of their hand already. For example, I'm not expecting this game by Black Tusk to come out anytime soon.
fwiw I think the last good Bungie game was ODST (and oh it was good) and I am not sold on Destinty yet. I think they are putting too much confidence into their fans. It feels like a dejavu game.
QB, Sunset Overdrive, Below, Horizon 2. Just a few examples, don't get hung up on those two.
BruceLeeRoy
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I adored Reach but only the campaign. The last MP halo I enjoyed was 3.
isnt this the same thing that is always brought up with Sony, but people seem to be content with the promise of games coming from all of their studios.
Wishmaster92
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Environments hold up well, even looking better than the infiltrator.
Character detail is way behind though.
Except this shot, the detail here is amazing.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Sony isn't off the hook either. I haven't seen anything exciting teased from them for next gen.
One difference between Ms first party and Sony first party. Sony's 1st party studios are vastly superior to MS. There's many studios that have proven their worth with what they've released. And MS has new studios like...Osaka.. And you're not sure what they can do.
Ooo Below....now that is a title I am interested in.
I want to hear about all companies future releases, not just MS.
walltowall
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That's a little harsh and somewhat slanted isn't it. Bungie was first party, so they were given to room to create quality games. This would only be fair if we're were to say that Sony has nothing to do with any game Naughty Dog makes they merely moneyhat. I understand that there is always strife between creators and distributors - just look at Hollywood- but funding, marketing, and creative suggestions go a long way towards making a product a success.
Mr.Wreckless
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Halo 4 may not be great but it is pretty good if you ask me. If MS can churn out lots of games of that quality I wouldn't complain.
Fresh Face
Banned
Understandable. Reach has one of the best campaigns I've ever played. I once played a level, had to leave, and all the time I was gone I kept thinking about how I wanted to play it again. I got home, and I wasn't even sure I wanted to keep on going! Of course then, I kept going because there was obviously more to come.
I was not disappointed.
I haven't played the whole campaign, but it really is pretty good so far.
Halo 4 is a COD clone to me. It's no longer Halo. The game is decent, but 343 is NOT Bungie.
Oh please. Bungie made the first mis-steps for Halo MP already in Reach.
AAAnyway I think we are far too offtopic now, heh.
Pound_lb003
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Infamous
'nuff said.
But seriously, I think it's because all of Sony's studios have quite a lot of history behind them. We know what kinda things they're capable of.
Whereas most of Microsoft's don't have a similar heritage.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Sorry, but that's ridiculous. The majority of work is always done by the studios, but of course Microsoft contributed to the creative effort, for better or worse. And that has nothing to do with Microsoft in particular, that's just how publishing games works; publishers are not just writing checks, but also steering projects through producers and other means, providing QA, tech assistance and so on.
And yes, even writing checks has a positive impact, it enables the vision to be realized.
Wishmaster92
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Final gif
But the InFamous games aren't that great. Least not to me, gotta be the most overrated franchise of the past half decade.
R3TRO
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I was scrolling down thinking the same thing.
You don't go HAM in those threads though
Munki
Member
To be honest, when does it not? I have not been here as long as you guys, but i've noticed that every thread these days turns into dick swinging contest.
X1 thread what do you expect. I love how some are already trying to downplay Black Tusk with barely even a hint of what they can do game wise.
What does this shit even mean, really? MS is building a studio from the ground up, and investing in talent. I'm no expert but i assume that's how studios are built. It's funny how people want to piss on MS for not "investing in their first party" then when they start investing in their first party they still get shit on...for investing in their first party. ( hurr their throwing money at these studios) MS built up Turn 10 and 343i already , and both are great studios. I'm looking forward to see what 343i can do as they mature as a studio, not to mention Black Tusk and their other start ups.
Steverulez
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I completely understand your point, but its more to do with the budget/expectation on the game these days.
dragonelite
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Yes, the rumor was they were working on two games, but who knows, maybe that's just a result of miscommunication.