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Black Widow |OT| Theaters Bounce Back From Vormir
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nephilimdj
Member
I didnt mind it, most likely a 6/10
Last 15mins was woeful, it was like they ran out of budget
shes run into and out of the building as it explodes, can see plain white cooridors
ground under the plane crumbles away in cgi, then we see them inside for 10secs before the plane drops
helicopter explosion
Last 15mins was woeful, it was like they ran out of budget
shes run into and out of the building as it explodes, can see plain white cooridors
ground under the plane crumbles away in cgi, then we see them inside for 10secs before the plane drops
helicopter explosion
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Ulysses 31
Member
It's been rectified now
The final act(when things start exploding in the air) alone requires so much suspension of disbelieve.
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sol_bad
Member
It's been rectified now
The final act(when things start exploding in the air) alone requires so much suspension of disbelieve.
It's an MCU movie.
Robot suits.
Super power sources.
Monsters.
Advanced AI
Super soldiers.
Laser guns.
Asgardian Gods.
Flying people.
Giant hovering ships.
Aliens.
Teleporting cubes.
Elves.
Reality ether.
Cryogenic sleep.
Robot limbs.
Talking raccoons and trees.
Spaceships.
Power stones.
Shrinking people.
Growing people.
Vibranium.
Wizards.
Teleporting.
Alternate realities.
Time controlling amulets.
Light speed travel.
Giant fire demons.
Hell spawn lizard creatures.
Time travel.
Witches.
Magic.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
When will people stop making this weak argument?
Ulysses 31
Member
Is all that supposed to excuse bad decisions characters make in the movie?(Taskmaster just has to kill Natasha personally rather than let her fall to certain death). Most of those things aren't even relevant to this movie.
Or key items appearing out of nowhere?
Or establishs that the widows can withstand explosions from less than a meter away or survive debris pushing them through the floor? Is there really no point for you at which an MCU movie takes too many liberties with physics and how humans can survive disasters?
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sol_bad
Member
Natasha has been through worse in the comics. It's all good.
Ulysses 31
Member
The MCU has contradicted/deviated from the comics several times. How serious can you still look at the comics for explanations? Also It is really good film making when you have to look at sources outside the MCU for answers?
DKehoe
Member
It's been rectified now
The final act(when things start exploding in the air) alone requires so much suspension of disbelieve.
This video is over 7 and a half hours long. Do people really listen to the whole thing?
Ulysses 31
Member
I assume their fans do, usually they BS around a little before they start with the topic video for an hour or so which I usually skip.
It's not uncommon for EFAP sessions to last that long or even longer. They pause nearly every scene and comment on it, especially when there's a lot of nonsense going on.
I linked it form the final act of the movie.
QuantumZebra
Member
IMO this film had one of the strongest endings of any standalone Marvel character films... maybe Thor Ragnarok tops it.
It's a fucking superhero film... there's people in floating cities commanding mind controlled assassins... what realism are you seeking here?
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Ulysses 31
Member
Widow is no superhero so I don't expect her to defy the laws of physics as much as she does in the movie.
Is it too much to ask for new MCU movies not to have this amount of plot holes, plot armor, plot contrivances, character assassinations, damaging world building to other MCU movies?
DKehoe
Member
I skipped around the video out of curiosity and it seems like it's hours of nitpicking. I didn't think the film was amazing or anything but this seems like such a soulless form of criticism.
Ulysses 31
Member
What do you call nitpicking? Things that allow the plot advance I wouldn't call nitpicks and they usually are forthcoming if they're discussing petty things in a scene.
Granted I've only watched from where I linked and not this full EFAP yet.
If you mean Pugh then she is pretty bottom heavy, not many could handle that in tight latex
AJUMP23
Gold Member
I don't think people mind that.If you mean Pugh then she is pretty bottom heavy, not many could handle that in tight latex
DKehoe
Member
The moment you had it queued up to start on for example. It's them saying the explosion she ran past should have killed her. But those kinds of things happen all the time in action films. People narrowly avoiding explosions that in reality might have killed them is exciting for the audience. "Death dyfing stunts" appeal to people for that reason. Also nothing I heard was discussing anything deeper like themes. It was all just surface level "why didn't they just..." It just feels like it's another example of modern film criticism just being people pointing out plot holes, which is pretty dull.
I'm maybe being unfair here since like I said I just skipped about. So maybe I'd have a better understanding of it if I watched the full thing. But it's 7 hours and 40 minutes so I'm not going to do that.
Ulysses 31
Member
They usually are consistent and wouldn't give such a scene a pass in other movies either. I think they bring up a theme near the end about family which they felt falls flat.
Fair enough, I usually just skip to a scene I'd like to hear their take on like the prison break out scene(4:48:00), how much plot armor it involves and how it destroys Natasha's core values that come with her heroism.
Also has one of the worst editing with Alexei thrashing into riot guards and in the next scene he's past them.
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sol_bad
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That was exactly my point in my last comment when I pointed out Natasha has been through worse in the comics. It's a comic book movie, shit be crazy.
sol_bad
Member
IMO Black Widow isn't doing too bad considering it is missing out on the Chinese ticket receipts.
www.boxofficemojo.com
314 million at the box office plus 60 million or more from Disney+, total of 374 million or more.
www.boxofficemojo.com
F9 is sitting at 600 million but 200 million is coming from Chinaaaa.
Does anyone know if this will get a release in China?
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Does anyone know if this will get a release in China?
nush
Gold Member
There were posters for it around the planned original release date.
Ulysses 31
Member
Long Man Bad's breakdown on all the character assassinations
That were all preordained by Khan
That were all preordained by Khan
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Insane Metal
Member
The first half I thought was pretty damn good with awesome fight sequences. The second half all went to the drain, what a bore fest.
Konnor
Member
Long Man Bad's breakdown on all the character assassinations
That were all preordained by Khan
I've watched half an hour and most of his criticism applies to most other Marvel crap. The characters are wildly inconsistent because writers have to follow the Disney recipe and force them to make shitty jokes every couple minutes so that things don't get too serious and the audience starts to think or something, action interrupts everything because it HAS to be there and was probably shot beforehand, the plot is also wildly inconsistent and the emotional/character development stuff gets ridiculed or brushed off to make space for shitty corporate humor and explosions etc. Once you've seen one mediocre Marvel movie you've seen them all. Ironically Iron Man 3 that was hated by many Marvel fans is one of the few decent Marvel movies exactly because it doesn't follow that cynical recipe that closely.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Just saw this last night. It was a quality movie....good actors, good acting....but it seemed a bit boring. Not a ton of cool Black Widow scenes. Florence Pugh was great but overall it was Meh!