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Black women less physically attractive than other women.

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TekkenMaster said:
I think white guys are intimidated by sex with black women because black women are probably used to taking the large black cock.

oooooh man, does it ever stop? XD

To any man who is scared of this:
Don't blame the woman for YOUR short comings. If you can't work it, its not HER fault
 
PantherLotus said:
I must be the only man on the planet that is attracted to pretty much anything that has hips. I mean, look at these beautiful women! I like 'em all. Skinny, chubs, white, black, asian, african, swedish, italian, arabic, indian, native american, I got something for aaaaaaaaaaaaall you ladies. If she has pretty eyes, full lips, a good complexion, and is confident, you're looking at pure beauty.

Seriously. Except for the super fat or super skinny, I love them all. Show me what you got mama!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_a519_Cy5k

Opiate said:
Last chance people: no more "hot chick" pics. Final warning.

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:)
 
Opiate said:
I saw it, and I find it fairly convincing.

So if that's not the reason, what is? It's possible his study is flawed in some way that creates a persistent bias throughout the data. But I don't think we'll ever know, because studies of this nature are always hushed up immediately. And you can see why, with the sort of reaction it creates, if GAF is any example.

I guess the better question is, would we be better off knowing of these differences in the first place? Perhaps I'm being cynical, but we already have people denouncing other races for superficial reasons already, this would make things worse. True, there could be some way to use this information to improve lives somehow, but I just don't think this particular study is useful in this case.
 
TekkenMaster said:
I think white guys are intimidated by sex with black women because black women are probably used to taking the large black cock.

Dude that doesn't make any sense.


I'm sure a lot of white dudes dig black women.

I saw this movie where this white dude dates this black woman cause they're absolutely in love and everyones like "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

Interracial couples are awesome
 
Opiate said:
Absolutely, this is another concern. It's probably most important to point out, as an obvious example, that the most extreme preferences for women in regards to waist-to-hip ratio are in fact African: they have waist preferences most similar to men (i.e. a ratio of approximately .9), which is easily the highest of the areas studied (other parts of Africa, Asia, India, European and Caucuses, etc.)

I think, I need to re-emphasize my point here: I am not suggesting that the conclusions are inescapable, or easily reached, here. I'm suggesting that it's worth exploring, and that we're currently choosing not to because the possible answers are uncomfortable to us, not because we couldn't fund such studies.

I'm not sure how one could measure anything regarding physical attractiveness in terms of instinct/biology without dealing with the elephant in the room that is culture.
 
Opiate said:
Last chance people: no more "hot chick" pics. Final warning.
quoting for reminders.

oh, and Esperanza Spalding is like...my absolute dream woman. I absolutely love the wild, blow-out Afro look. or the curly look?

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GGG

Devolution said:
I'm not sure how one could measure anything regarding physical attractiveness in terms of instinct/biology without dealing with the elephant in the room that is culture.
Indeed. It's just not possible to do.
 
Devolution said:
I'm not sure how one could measure anything regarding physical attractiveness in terms of instinct/biology without dealing with the elephant in the room that is culture.

Why would we avoid culture? We absolutely should include that.

In fact, that's the only thing we do not avoid. The only socially acceptable answer to the different perceptions of beauty is that cultural differences create standards which are not objective and may not be fair.

It isn't that the concept isn't valid. It is. I'm just not convinced that it is the only explanation for all inequalities in the world, and I'd love to see real, genuine science done to find out more.
 
virtuoso88 said:
Ok, so one out of 100 proves races are equal right? And if it's a culture thing, no wonder all those asians dominant the UFC.

Dude, dude...MMA is like the worst thing to bring up. It's pretty much equal ground.
 
Here's a little thought experiment. Imagine that, on September 11, 2001, when the Twin Towers came down, the President of the United States was not George W. Bush, but Ann Coulter. What would have happened then? On September 12, President Coulter would have ordered the US military forces to drop 35 nuclear bombs throughout the Middle East, killing all of our actual and potential enemy combatants, and their wives and children. On September 13, the war would have been over and won, without a single American life lost.

Yes, we need a woman in the White House, but not the one who's running.

I'm not one to say that a persons views invalidate their opinions but I have a hard time taking this blogger seriously when the above quote is something they would publish.
 
As a dark-skinned black man, I have to say I'm disappointed that so many pictures used to dispute this man's point are of woman with long european-esque weaves and with skin just two tones away from being pale. That isn't to say that those woman aren't beautiful and don't exemplify black beauty (black beauty comes in many shapes and skin tones). But, it is in a way furthering the idea that, as a black woman (or woman of any minority), your beauty is measured in how close to European your features are. And this is simply untrue.

EDIt: Sorry, edited after I saw the mod warning. Wow, these threads move fast.
 
G-Fex said:
Guys the mod already said stop with the pics already.

You're going to get this locked.
But the pics will remain

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Edit: And end, thread had a good run
 
G-Fex said:
Dude that doesn't make any sense.


I'm sure a lot of white dudes dig black women.

I saw this movie where this white dude dates this black woman cause they're absolutely in love and everyones like "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

Interracial couples are awesome

I'm just giving this as a potential reason why statistically (according to this study) white men don't see black women as potential mates. I've felt this at times due to the fact that I watch too much porn and black pornstars=11 inch peni
 
royalan said:
As a dark-skinned black man, I have to say I'm disappointed that so many pictures used to dispute this man's point are of woman with long european-esque weaves and with skin just two tones away from being pale. That isn't to say that those woman aren't beautiful and don't exemplify black beauty (black beauty comes in many shapes and skin tones). But, it is in a way furthering the idea that, as a black woman (or woman of any minority), your beauty is measured in how close to European your features are. And this is simply untrue.

Lets show some love for our darker-skinned sisters (and are sisters who, while not extremely dark, still embrace their ethnic roots).
Learn to read please.
 
akira28 said:
There's a dearth of black women in modeling and media Guess what look is popular? 'Ethnic but not black'. So google searches will be tough, considering the material isn't as varied as it might be. And there are plenty of hot black women I see on the drive to work. But plenty of these women posted are black, just not black enough for you, I suppose?

There's a dearth of black women in modeling because the sociological standard of beauty is "white" and "black" women with African features are forced to compete with "black" women with European or exotic features and the latter almost always wins out.
 
Opiate said:
Yep, absolutely, that would need to be taken in to consideration. However, that would not explain why black males are considered very attractive. Are we only racist against black women?

I'm not saying you're wrong, again. I'm just saying it's quite possible that there is something to this, and we'll likely never find out because everyone is afraid to suggest that we're anything but exactly equal in all ways.

I also understand why we say we're exactly equal. Racism is a terrible thing, and if any study were to look at a large sample size and conclude that Asians really were smarter than everybody else, that would only feed long standing racist fires. Therefore, it is not at all obvious to me what the correct approach to all of this would be -- however, I do feel strongly that glossing it all over and pretending there are no differences between races when it seems blindingly obvious to me that there are differences is not the right approach.
If? We have tons of IQ data, which indicates Asians and Ashkenazi Jews indeed have higher average IQs, while African-Americans have a lower average. There's an open debate about the source of these gaps (and I, like you, wish there wasn't such a fear of finding the truth), but their existence is pretty well established.
 
royalan said:
As a dark-skinned black man, I have to say I'm disappointed that so many pictures used to dispute this man's point are of woman with long european-esque weaves and with skin just two tones away from being pale. That isn't to say that those woman aren't beautiful and don't exemplify black beauty (black beauty comes in many shapes and skin tones). But, it is in a way furthering the idea that, as a black woman (or woman of any minority), your beauty is measured in how close to European your features are. And this is simply untrue.

Amen. Thank you Royalan.
 
That doesn't mean I can't have preferences, of course.

Anyone remember the hot black chick from that Michael Jackson video 'in the closet'? Looked nubian, like one of those old statues of an egyptian queen or something. I can't even breathe around women that look like that.
 
Opiate said:
Why would we avoid culture? We absolutely should include that.
I agree, but people would get defensive. Most people have never been forced to examine their definitions of beauty and where they came from. Most people don't look at the television and ask themselves, "what are they trying to tell me...sell me...say to me about what I should/shouldn't like..." at any given time.

I think minorities have to some extent...and we see the evidence of that pressure in the form of skin bleaching creams and such. All secondary to the gravity of culture.
 
Opiate said:
Last chance people: no more "hot chick" pics. Final warning.
We had a good run. The way things are going on in here (if some people don't calm down), it's going to get locked for one reason or another.
 
Jerk said:
On what basis do you make this claim?

I'm just putting it out there as a possible explanation. Based on myself at times, people I've spoken to, and things I've read written by white guys about how they envy black men.
 
Opiate said:
Why would we avoid culture? We absolutely should include that.

How would we account for it scientifically? A sliding scale based on how much tv they watch? What their parents were like? Their geographic location and exposure to other races and cultures?

I'm saying that you can't be remotely objective about this stuff no matter how you try. And people like the author of the original article definitely have some terrible agendas in shit like this study.
 
My final draw-

Black women are gorgeous and unique and I favor them highly,

though all the ones I had a crush on in real life had TONS of friends including TONS of male friends, so I didn't have a chance :(. Forever alone.
 
gutter_trash said:
as usual, lots of otaku video-game dudes only clamoring over Asian chicks but not having responses to black chicks

Reason why the Kpop thread thrives on the first page everyday.

TekkenMaster said:
I'm just putting it out there as a possible explanation. Based on myself at times, people I've spoken to, and things I've read written by white guys about how they envy black men.

They need to learn how to use what they have.
 
Rich Uncle Skeleton said:
If? We have tons of IQ data, which indicates Asians and Ashkenazi Jews indeed have higher average IQs, while African-Americans have a lower average. There's an open debate about the source of these gaps (and I, like you, wish there wasn't such a fear of finding the truth), but their existence is pretty well established.

Uh, I was kinda under the impression that IQ is not exactly as solid as one would believe.
 
kitzkozan said:
What exactly was the purpose of that "study" ? Asian have less testosterone and less muscle mass than white or black. Does it kinda suck if some asian men/women try to excel in some sports as it can become a massive barrier? Sure, but hey it's life.

I don't really doubt that black women have higher level of testosterone on average and I've heard way too many dude saying some look like black dude in drags or even trying to generalize which is fucking stupid ( worse was Serena Williams looking like Evander Holyfield in drag WTF??? ) . Won't change the fact that there's still plenty of attractive black women by universal standards and others might not be so lucky. Ultimately, what does this study change in one way or another and what might be implied? That some black women should be injected with oestrogen or something? That study was a waste of time and money imo. :P

Can you back this up empirically?

Dreams-Visions said:
Oh, you need more? Wait...if I posted 10 more, you'd disregard them, so what's the point? You've wholly confused the legacy and influence of culture for racial makeup differences. And you appear to be wholly convinced in your opinion.

As for UFC, I don't know why more Asians aren't dominant in UFC. Maybe they aren't training in massive numbers for UFC. Did you consider that? You know...the reason why there aren't many minorities playing hockey or skiing or playing golf or playing Lacrosse, or...

Next you'll tell me Koreans have an extra gear in their head which explains their StarCraft II play. Right? Or maybe their culture has adopted the game like ours has adopted Street Fighter or Call of Duty

Thank you.

TekkenMaster said:
I'm not saying the stereotype of blacks=big dick is true, I'm saying a lot of white guys probably feel intimidated.

This may be true. Empirical cross-ethnic studies of penis size found no statistically significant difference in size between men in different "races," but when a new website with the title ~*WORLD PENIS SIZE CHART*~ comes out, GAF runs with it. And black-GAF, I'm sorry, but some of you guys are guilty of running with it too. You're boasting to other dudes on a video game forum.
 
Rich Uncle Skeleton said:
If? We have tons of IQ data, which indicates Asians and Ashkenazi Jews indeed have higher average IQs, while African-Americans have a lower average. There's an open debate about the source of these gaps (and I, like you, wish there wasn't such a fear of finding the truth), but their existence is pretty well established.

The question, then, is whether IQ is a genuinely valid measure of intelligence, just as people are (rightly) questioning our measurements of beauty.

All of this would be intensely, extremely, and profoundly difficult to study. It would take scores of researchers decades to reach conclusions we might begin to consider large enough in scope and long enough in duration to be considered valid.

But in reality, we have people doing such studies for lots of things. They aren't especially expensive, relative to other types of studies. And I think we can all agree that the conclusions might be very compelling.

The problem is that they might be compelling in an extremely controversial way that provokes racist and bigoted ideology. Maybe they wouldn't -- maybe it would end up that we really are all exactly equal in all the ways that matter -- but maybe it wouldn't, and so the bulk of the research hasn't even started.
 
royalan said:
As a dark-skinned black man, I have to say I'm disappointed that so many pictures used to dispute this man's point are of woman with long european-esque weaves and with skin just two tones away from being pale. That isn't to say that those woman aren't beautiful and don't exemplify black beauty (black beauty comes in many shapes and skin tones). But, it is in a way furthering the idea that, as a black woman (or woman of any minority), your beauty is measured in how close to European your features are. And this is simply untrue.

EDIt: Sorry, edited after I saw the mod warning. Wow, these threads move fast.
before the picture fun ended, I certainly called for some Ethoipian and Somalian representation. But you shouldn't be disappointed; people posted women like the ones they see every day in America (or wherever they're from). That's what we look like, the full Diaspora on display from light to dark. I saw dark chocolate...I saw mocha...I saw caramel.

Perhaps you can post links to those pics you posted (that we'd click to see)? I'd think Opiate would be fine with that.
 
Funtruck said:
i could care less how it sits with you; it's the truth

its the same thing with fat wimmenz; i might as well be looking at a man

Which is why I did not immediately respond to you in the thread. I read you're opinion, and stated mine separately.

I understand you have your own opinion. That's cool. Obviously there is nothing I can say or do about it.

But realize when posting on a message board you are submitting your thoughts for discussion with anyone. Whether or not you care what I think is irrelevant if only because you posted that first message and continued to discuss why black women are not attractive to you.
 
Real quick someone remind me why we're talking about IQ, considering the OP thread title specifically says "physically attractive."

Yes, we get that attraction has numerous inputs, factors, and cultural norms attached. Yet it is still possible to remove yourself as far from that as possible and attempt to say, "yes, that woman is attractive and I would mate with her" with nothing more than a glossy (and perhaps sticky) photograph from which to judge.
 
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