you do realize Blizzard stole everything in the wow universe from the warhammer books/board games right?
Just like 95% of modern fantasy fiction steals from Tolkien? And Tolkien stole from pagan mythology?
SIMPSONS DID IT! SIMPSONS DID IT!
you do realize Blizzard stole everything in the wow universe from the warhammer books/board games right?
you do realize Blizzard stole everything in the wow universe from the warhammer books/board games right?
But I like *both*!
That's rather why I'm conflicted.
12 pages in and people still think Blizzard is suing Valve, or that trademarks have anything to do with assets of the game, or that Blizzard didn't "support" Dota (even though they heavily promoted Dota tournaments at Blizzcon since 2005). Of course participating in these threads is a waste of time. And now I just wasted mine.
They should probably just sue over Morphling pretty much being exactly a War3 Water Elemental.
shouldnt Games Workshop sue Blizzard for stealing Warhammer and using it in WOW, then?
I posted too soon (without fully reading into this) and said something stupid!
If Blizzard is just against Valve claiming the DOTA trademark (and aren't necessarily trying to claim it for their own use), then I'm fine with what they're doing!
Do any law types in here actually think they have a case?
This isn't going to happen.
Blizzard even stated they don't own Dota and that it should belong to the people. Valve picked it up and decided to make something with it. Whether that was morally correct is subjective, but legally, they didn't do anything wrong.
Blizzards game is called Blizzard DOTA
Didn't someone post that Riot Games trademarked DotA and sold it to Blizzard?
Didn't someone post that Riot Games trademarked DotA and sold it to Blizzard?
Valve usually does just about everything right, but this is one of their severe missteps. If League of Legends can flourish with a different name, so can their knock-off.
At any rate, Activision Blizzard probably has a well-paid legal department; they likely wouldn't even attempt this, if they didn't already know they had at least a decent chance of winning. Court can be expensive, after all.
So has anyone explained how this situation is logically different from Unknown Worlds taking the Natural Selection mod, trademarking Natural Selection 2 and selling it?
Do they not have the right to do it because the original game was on Valve's Half-Life engine?
Main difference being that Valve isn't making their own Natural Selection, probablyThis isn't court. They're filing a dispute against Valve's trademark application. It barely costs them anything to do this. This isn't going to court.
No difference that I know of.
I'm surprised Blizzard don't just copyright half-life, after all - don't you have to prove your still using something in order to keep the copyright.
I hope they can counter sue for damages.
Brand Damage
Good Will (mistreatment)
Time
Finances for the lawsuit, and potential (if slightly exaggerated) delays this could cause the game.
I really hope they can get $$$ from Blizzard. It's that big corporate bulling comes at a price!
I'm surprised Blizzard don't just copyright half-life, after all - don't you have to prove your still using something in order to keep the copyright.
This has nothing to do with copyrights, and even if it did, you don't have to prove you're still using something in order to keep it.
Copyrights and trademarks are not the same thing, kids. I'm not making this up.
Mom and Dad are fighting
Sorry - was a bad joke. Legally I'd have thought the name belongs to the original creator, rather than the platform on which he distributed his title. It seems like a dick move trying to take control of something they didn't create - at least Valve gave the guy a job and dev team.
Main difference being that Valve isn't making their own Natural Selection, probably
You have to be really gullible and naive to think Blizzard wants the name for the community only, especially when you consider everything they have been doing after the whole Activision partnership.
He works at Riot now.You lost your S2 tag?
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In contrast to Blizzard, Applicant Valve Corporation ("Valve") has never
used the mark DOTA in connection with any product or service that currently is available
to the public. By attempting to register the mark DOTA, Valve seeks to appropriate the
more than seven years of goodwill that Blizzard has developed in the mark DOTA and in
its Warcraft III computer game and take for itself a name that has come to signify the
product of years of time and energy expended by Blizzard and by fans of Warcraft III.
Valve has no right to the registration it seeks. If such registration is issued, it not only
will damage Blizzard, but also the legions of Blizzard fans that have worked for years
with Blizzard and its products, including by causing consumers to falsely believe that
Valve's products are affiliated, sponsored or endorsed by Blizzard and are related or
connected to Warcraft III.
Nah, Blizzard should make a cartoony team-based multiplayer FPS/hat simulator and trademark the name "TF3". No one would have a problem with that, I bet.
Nah, Blizzard should make a cartoony team-based multiplayer FPS/hat simulator and trademark the name "TF3". No one would have a problem with that, I bet.
They want it to be unfettered legally so that they don't get into trouble for using it in the future, that's all. If they manage to have the application rejected and then make one of their own, well then we can start talking about what a pack of evil bastards they are, but until then let's try to inject some common-sense into the discussion.
okay this has annoyed me long enough
what the hell does DOTA mean
You have to be really gullible and naive to think Blizzard wants the name for the community only, especially when you consider everything they have been doing after the whole Activision partnership.
Blizzard is going to crush them.
I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't care for either company particularly. That's just what's going to happen. This makes total sense:
I'm sure Valve is only making Dota 2 and trademarking out of kindness to the community.
I'm sure Valve is only making Dota 2 and trademarking out of kindness to the community.
KevinRo said:Exactly. This just proves the absurdity of all of this. Fans arguing over which billion/multimillion dollar company gets to make more money off of them. Sweet.