Personally I find NGB to be significantly harder than any of these games because the gameplay relies so heavily on combos and timing. Nioh and BB are far simpler in their mechanics, not implying that they are bad just different.
Nioh is less obtuse than Bloodborne.
With a proper story and a proper tutorial which explains pretty much everything.
It's also more forgiving because if you fuck up for your character build you can always respec. Nothing is permanent.
And if you're a fan of fast paced combat action game, Nioh has that Ninja Gaiden blood in it.
Overall if you're new to these types of game, you should start with Nioh first.
The are - if you play Nioh in low stance (which I did for the majority of it) - it becomes almost as fast NGB movement wise.
Nioh requires timing as well - especially on certain bosses - which isnt unlike NGB in that respect.
They are different but you can total see the impact NG had on the game. Hell - an ancestor shows up in the third DLC and has the same move set as the bloodline.
As for the difficulty - the second level of Nioh withis the equivalent of that first level in NGB with Murai on hard (to me anyway).Hino-Nema
This thread made me go check the psn store looking for deals... not seeing Nioh on sale
Wtf am I reading here. Nioh, the game with 6~ types of weapons that come from real life weapons you see in every single melee action game, has more distinct weapons than Bloodborne of all things.
This is like, a literal lie.
The are - if you play Nioh in low stance (which I did for the majority of it) - it becomes almost as fast NGB movement wise.
Nioh requires timing as well - especially on certain bosses - which isnt unlike NGB in that respect.
They are different but you can total see the impact NG had on the game. Hell - an ancestor shows up in the third DLC and has the same move set as the bloodline.
As for the difficulty - the second level of Nioh withis the equivalent of that first level in NGB with Murai on hard (to me anyway).Hino-Nema
Bloodborne is awesome but the learning curve is steep at first. Id never played a Souls game before it and the first area of the game made me regret my purchase for the first week. Once I figured out how to actually play everything clicked and it was amazing. Its really not THAT difficult once you get the mechanics down.
both are GOATS.
both are diffrent
both are diffcult but it's easier if you play with someone.
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
Ni-oh is far better in just about every way. Bloodborne is easily the worst of any of the Souls games.
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
The difficulty is overblown to the point where some people will have you believe that you take 3 steps in the game and instantly die
If you can play most games on normal you can figure it out, unless you have no patience whatsoever.
I'd recommend Bloodborne over Nioh
This thread made me go check the psn store looking for deals... not seeing Nioh on sale
Pretty much this. The difficulty is relative to you figuring out the mechanics. You're going to die, but just learn why you died and come back stronger.
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
How? How tedious to have to keep dragging your arse back to Gascoigne for him to Beast mode and nail you, or just pull of some attack you've never seen before and nail you. Or just brute force nail you. And that applies to any boss. How does the game go about educating players on what they did wrong and how to improve, if the price for misreading or mistiming an attack pattern is a 10 minute or more runaround to grind items and get back to your position, and the game doesn't tell you anything so you have to trawl youtube or guides for help... and THEN players act like they're some fucking kung fu master for figuring it out.
This whole "git gud" thing is just a horrible mindset. It's like... the anti-Nintendo ethos on how to construct a game.
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
The cost of dying has nothing to do with the game's ability to teach you. If you die to some attack, you should be mentally digesting its startup animation, damage, range, etc. A 10min run or an instant retry button doesn't change this.How? How tedious to have to keep dragging your arse back toand nail you, or just pull of some attack you've never seen before and nail you. Or just brute force nail you. And that applies to any boss. How does the game go about educating players on what they did wrong and how to improve, if the price for misreading or mistiming an attack pattern is a 10 minute or more runaround to grind items and get back to your positionGascoigne for him to Beast mode
How? How tedious to have to keep dragging your arse back to Gascoigne for him to Beast mode and nail you, or just pull of some attack you've never seen before and nail you. Or just brute force nail you. And that applies to any boss. How does the game go about educating players on what they did wrong and how to improve, if the price for misreading or mistiming an attack pattern is a 10 minute or more runaround to grind items and get back to your position, and the game doesn't tell you anything so you have to trawl youtube or guides for help... and THEN players act like they're some fucking kung fu master for figuring it out.
This whole "git gud" thing is just a horrible mindset. It's like... the anti-Nintendo ethos on how to construct a game.
How? How tedious to have to keep dragging your arse back to Gascoigne for him to Beast mode and nail you, or just pull of some attack you've never seen before and nail you. Or just brute force nail you. And that applies to any boss. How does the game go about educating players on what they did wrong and how to improve, if the price for misreading or mistiming an attack pattern is a 10 minute or more runaround to grind items and get back to your position, and the game doesn't tell you anything so you have to trawl youtube or guides for help... and THEN players act like they're some fucking kung fu master for figuring it out.
This whole "git gud" thing is just a horrible mindset. It's like... the anti-Nintendo ethos on how to construct a game.
Yeah, it will definitely get more tough but take advantage of the parry/counter move with your gun. It is very helpful.So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
So so far, I think im OK with the difficulty level. I know its only the first area but Ive not thrown any rages (lol) or got annoyed at all etc, and have actually enjoyed watching my attempts get better, and improving my general skills on the minions.
The music is superb as well and the setting is stunning. Fucking glad I bought this, although Im sure the bosses get brutal later so hopefully I dont get too salty, haha
I've never understood why people say the beginning of Bloodborne is exceptionally hard. The brick guys can be tricky with the tracking and range on the final hit of their combo, but that's about it. The other mobs have slow attacks and stagger with each hit. It's only as hard as, or even a bit easier than the other Souls games at the start.
So Im playing BB first, and Im loving it.
Took me 3 hours for the first area and first boss, took a few attempts to learn the patterns etc but got him down after 4 or 5 attempts. I know the difficulty will just get worse and worse but im loving the combat so far! Gotta be on your guard at all times etc.
It's still worth checking out, but it definitely does not play as nicely as the Souls games do. Which is part of why those games took off I imagine, King's Field has an innately appealing core hobbled by rough, early first person controls.I saw Kings Field IV at the store the other day and almost bought it, but I figured the difficulty would be too much for me.
I think it's worth mentioning that whilst the atmosphere in bloodborne is great, it's actually really depressing and unsettling like... the game is great but man do I hate playing it.
I see that people don't get why the first area sucks. One, a convoy or two of three to four monsters in a narrow corridor, plus 3-4 hidden surprise monsters, and a ranged opponent you might have to take down by sprinting around a large group. Plus, those damned wolves.
That's one of the reasons why I love playing it. No other game gives me the same wonderful feeling, apart from Silent Hill 2.
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It's relatively easy to take care of them one by one. You just need to pay attention to what the game shows you.Use pebbles to your advantage, and find the shortcut to bypass the wolves.
There is something simultaneously depressing and enchanting about the world. Disturbing moments and grotesque visuals always have an underlying majesty. And all that majesty is wasted as every landscape and personality falls to ruin.That's one of the reasons why I love playing it. No other game gives me the same wonderful feeling, apart from Silent Hill 2.
Also the narrow corridor is literally an advantage to the player lol. If you're fighting multiple opponents, funneling them into a corridor is not only a smart videogame tactic, but it's the kind of thing that is used in actual battles.
Negate an opposition's overwhelming numbers by limiting how many can engage your forces at any given time.
Not to mention your character has enough speed and attack strength to kill 2 of a group of 3 before the 3rd can finish an attack.
There is something simultaneously enchanting and depressing about the world. Disturbing moments and grotesque visuals always have an underlying majesty.
My favorite example is the cutscene transition of Ludwig. Arguably the best boss cutscene in video game history.