I don't think anyone is taking Take 2.Lets be clear. If anybody is really interested in SE the acquisition movements will kick in. Sony will be forced to buy it. And this will involve MS going for Capcom that will force again Sony to acquire it. The trend will be that. Those are the two publishers that Sony cant allow itself to lose. Although in the end they will lose GTA as i am sure Take 2 will finish in MS hands as an answer to all that. The wildcard will be CD project red as now are cheaper but still expensive while its nex Witcher game is still far off.
Is the same that will happen in football if Real Madrid signs Mbappe. PSG will take Messi, Barsa will take Haaland...
Lets be clear. If anybody is really interested in SE the acquisition movements will kick in. Sony will be forced to buy it. And this will involve MS going for Capcom that will force again Sony to acquire it. The trend will be that. Those are the two publishers that Sony cant allow itself to lose. Although in the end they will lose GTA as i am sure Take 2 will finish in MS hands as an answer to all that. The wildcard will be CD project red as now are cheaper but still expensive while its nex Witcher game is still far off.
Is the same that will happen in football if Real Madrid signs Mbappe. PSG will take Messi, Barsa will take Haaland...
Bloomberg, democratizing insider trading since 2010. It's a public service, really.Look at what this "news" did to Square Enix's share price and there's your reason why Bloomberg released this "story".
Someone profited big time from this today.
And here I thought Bloomberg are accurate in what they report.
This was proven to be a fake rumour, it seems.
I think its worth pointing out that SE's statement doesn't necessarily debunk the original article:Turns out thats exactly what they do after all
I ain't trusting any of these outlets or journalists unless they provide some real, concrete info on the matter
Of course there are, except that information alone means nothing. It was just used because author of the article knew it'd make waves despite being meaningless, its clickbait journalism at its finest.I think its worth pointing out that SE's statement doesn't necessarily debunk the original article:
Bloomberg - Serval institutions are interested in buying Square Enix
Square Enix - We are not interested in selling and no one has made an official offer
Both things can be true.
That's a fair point and it probably was done to get clicks. I was just pointing out that SE's statement doesn't mean Bloomberg's report is fake or inaccurate. It can be true and clickbait simultaneously.Of course there are, except that information alone means nothing. It was just used because author of the article knew it'd make waves despite being meaningless, its clickbait journalism at its finest.
Especially with 30% of their business being anime, manga, arcades and film. With a significant portion of the gaming pie being mobile games.I don’t see why MS would buy Square Enix. It makes a lot more sense for Sony since they would secure some exclusives they already kind of have but may want to keep.
IMO Square Enix has been pretty meh for the last couple of years with some exceptions (Trials of Mana was good and Outriders is fun) so I couldn’t care less either way.
That's a fair point and it probably was done to get clicks. I was just pointing out that SE's statement doesn't mean Bloomberg's report is fake or inaccurate. It can be true and clickbait simultaneously.
no, they are just getting started.The days for Xbox's big acquisitions are over, for now at least. They have purchased enough studios and properties.
As I remember at least Nintendo was also protected by this JNS thing. So maybe it's the case for other big Japanese game companies like Konami, Square, Sega or Capcom.I doubt the Japanese want to sell out to an American company, but money is sweet.
If Microsoft starts being really aggresive trying to buy Japanese devs I can see Sony trying to outbid them, or force some weird Japanese venture/front as they did with KADOKAWA.
Edit: Also Sony is under the Japan National Security thing that protects them from getting acquired, I am pretty sure there will be more companies under that umbrella soon.
Japan is really serious on preserving their national goods, and rightly so, I really wouldn't want any Japanese Dev to get acquired by any American, Chinese, or European company.
It's funny that you think Google and Amazon are the competition... it was a good line but it's not anywhere near the truth.no, they are just getting started.
google shut their in house studio/s recently after microsoft acquired zenimax, because they figured building up studios is time consuming, so its easier to just buy them out. they are working on that right now.
amazon also launched their service, and they will also run into this problem. these companies need content,and they have the cash to buy them.
microsoft wont sit back and let these entrants gobble up all the studios. they were content with battling sony with each making third party exclusive deals in the past generations, but this is now different. you got these other bigger companies wanting to enter this space, so it will be a studio buying battle.
Square have anime, manga, film and mobile businesses....it's about half of their company. So it would make sense for Sony.As I remember at least Nintendo was also protected by this JNS thing. So maybe it's the case for other big Japanese game companies like Konami, Square, Sega or Capcom.
Square has many big deals with Sony: look at FFVIIR, Project Athia, FF16 and so on. It's ok for them, Sony has enough while also selling their games in more platforms, because making these huge ass games need them to be released on many places to keep them profitable and secure them from huge loses in case one of them tanks.
It wouldn't be smart for Square to go full exclusive, they depend of multiplatform releases to be profitable. So I highly doubt they would want to sell.
To buy Square Enix also must be expensive as fuck. Sony wouldn't be interested on buying it because they already get the exclusives and they already posted the record yearly revenue for any platform holder in gaming history, so don't need to purchase a big publisher. Some dev studio maybe yes, but don't need to buy a big publisher.
Regarding MS who knows, because their strategy doesn't make sense at all. Seems that in addition to kill their console releasing all their exclusives to PC and including them day one on a subscription, with that move they also want to kill the main revenue source for their 3rd party publishers and devs, and also for the ones of the other consoles: game sales. And on top of that they spent over 10B on studios to give away for basically free their games on a game rental subscription service with no known strategy of how they will turn that into something profitable.
It would make sense for them to try to figure out how they get their ROI for all recent investments and start to be profitable instead of making more big purchases. But who knows, maybe they still want to spend more billions and try to buy Square, Konami, Sega, Capcom, Sony, Nintendo, Godzilla, Doraemon and the mount Fuji to be more important in Japan, that market that every year generates a smaller % of the global console market revenue and every year console market is a smaller % of the Japanese gaming market.
It would have a better fit for Sony because they also have that (excluding manga, but maybe they could give that to their friends Kadokawa) and are also Japanese, so they wouldn't have the language and cultural barrier, plus that national security stuff wouldn't block the sale.Square have anime, manga, film and mobile businesses....it's about half of their company. So it would make sense for Sony.
I don't think anyone is taking Take 2.
The days for Xbox's big acquisitions are over, for now at least. They have purchased enough studios and properties. Their challenge is to manage them all properly, actually produce stuff, and make sure that output is good enough to bring in a positive ROI. There is a limit to what they will be allowed to spend before showing a positive return on investment. Going by PS5 and XSX | S sales ratio so far (limited supply, I know), this can turn out to be very tough for Xbox in the next 1-2 years.
If GP subscribers actually do balloon up, and Xbox division brings in decent profits, they might go on another buying spree. But I don't think it will happen before that.
Oh man, I dunno, would you like MS to have SE when Xbox own studios were closed because in 6 years they haven’t made anything? Or when bungie studio pay to leave MS?Well, with Sony reverting back to an awful piece of shit company (denying Day's Gone 2, shutting down their legacy stores and shutting down their patch servers for older games) I would like to see Microsoft buy them. Basically guarantees we will get the games on PC which means they can be preserved for all time.
There will be lots of partnerships, I'm sure. There may even be smaller acquisitions, but I just don't think there will be big, gigantic acquisitions any time in the near future by Xbox though.Over? We were told by many experts for years it would never begin because Xbox being a part of Microsoft doesn't mean they get to use Microsoft's financial firepower. Then they went and bought Bethesda for them. Then the CEO of Microsoft after approving that said they are still interested in purchasing more publishers, backed up by Phil Spencer.
Then Microsoft on the very day Bethesda was officially now part of Microsoft, created a new position specifically tasked with identifying and then informing more game specific acquisitions. I'd bet their acquisition days are far from over. As far as Square Enix, it need not be in the form of a traditional acquisition, so much as it can come through a major, multi-year business arrangement with a partner. Would Square be opposed to a more all encompassing game pass arrangement for some of its big releases? Doubt it.
And here I thought Bloomberg are accurate in what they report.
sharp as a cue ball this oneDidn’t we hear recently that MS approached bungie but was turned down? That was a rumor. Then the devs that makes the medium said they didn’t want to be acquired recently. Moon studios won’t sell. I feel like there was another studio close to ms that took a large investment from net ease or something, and then sega who is non stop rumored to be bought by ms just took like an 800 million dollar investment from someone as well.
So asobo, bungie, moon, sega, and maybe another if all the rumors are to be believed turned MS down but all these Japanese publishers who have no relationship with Microsoft whose games never sold well on Xbox are going to forsake their domestic market, actual fan base, and all sales so they can give their games away on a subscription service while their two main sources of income Sony and Nintendo are both seeing record sales.
Ok.
Edit: The only person making the claim that Microsoft and Sony and bidding on square enix is that scped ed whatever his name is Twitter guy. Just last week he said Jim Ryan turned down Kojimas game. So within a week he’s gone from Jim Ryan is canceling Kojima games to Microsoft is trying to buy square. He runs a podcast called “Xbox era.” That’s be like me running a podcast called “PlayStation rocks” and whenever a rumor comes up saying “Sony’s already on it.”
Ok he got a gamespass game and ps plus game prediction right and maybe he has sources for that sort of stuff but how would anyone know ALL of that?
Mind elaborating?sharp as a cue ball this one
sharp as a cue ball this one
Didn’t think so.Mind elaborating?
It was actually post-Sakaguchi Squaresoft leadership (in particular Yoichi Wada) that took over management of the company and drove it into the dirt.I would prefer they separate Enix and Square, Squaresoft never was the same under Enix leadership.
Oh man, I dunno, would you like MS to have SE when Xbox own studios were closed because in 6 years they haven’t made anything? Or when bungie studio pay to leave MS?
I have low hopes MS can even manage a big group of studios... they don’t seem to have the expertise!