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I played the Game of Life yesterday with my sister. Started out by automatically being $40000 in debt, and I hit the "go back 15 spaces" block 3 times in a row. Damn you spin wheel!!!
 
jason10mm said:
Scored Space Hulk off ebay. Damn, never thought I would pay this much for a board game, but considering it wasn't much more than 2 xbox games I'll play for a month and forget, this should last for a few decades with proper care.

Never painted any minis either (well, at least not since the mid 80s anyway) so I need to get set up. Probably practice on some cheap minis, maybe my Runebound or Last Night on Earth figures before tacking those intricate Terminators.

I'm in the camp who thinks Space Hulk WILL get re-issued again, but I think it will have fewer unique figures and still retail for $80-100, so I sucked it up and dropped some cash for the anniversary edition. The way it sold out like that MUST convince GW to keep making it in some fashion.

Yea it sold out fast, I can only imagine that GW will want to try to do a couple more print runs of the game.
 
Leunam said:
Not bad, but you should've primed it before painting. You should've also used less wash. It's pooled up too much on some of the flat surfaces.

That reminds me, I need to start painting my own Terminators and Genestealers.

I'm happy with the turnout. It looks much better to the naked eye. I'm going to hit it with a clear coat, so I don't really expect the lack of primer to make a huge difference. It's an obvious dip job to get them distiguishable from one another on the board, I have no interest in putting a lot of time into a job as boring as painting minis.

Edit: I also prefer the heavy dip/wash look. I want my space marines grimey as fuck.
 
I got so much hell from my D&D 4E group because I had no interest in painting my miniature. Then I said "if it bothers you so much, you can paint it for me", and the looks I got...
 
With how often d&d characters die off, why bother painting them? I known so many people who make a big deal about choosing a fig for their character, then spend a whole bunch of time to make a masterpiece of a paint job, just to have the character suck or die one or two sessions in.
 
platypotamus said:
I got so much hell from my D&D 4E group because I had no interest in painting my miniature. Then I said "if it bothers you so much, you can paint it for me", and the looks I got...

We were lucky to have a player who liked painting. Also: I suspect he didn't like looking at the pink dinosaur toy I was using for my homosexual dragonkin character.
 
Yeah, I was never that interested in painting miniatures for DnD either. I had friends that got into WH40K army building and such, but I was more into wargames and could accept cardboard chits for units, so having an actual miniature, even unpainted, seemed adequate to me. These new colored plastic ones do leave something to be desired though, so I have a stronger desire to paint them.

Plus the more colorful I can make my games, the more my wife wants to play. For example, she LOVED Runebound once I got colored glass gems to substitute for the quest markers, once I get faux gold coins to replace the cardboard gold coin chits I'll never be able to drag her away :P
 
Yeah, I think painted figures look cool, especially some of the ones I see on BGG, but I'm not painting at all. Probably do more harm than good. Also time.
 
My disinterest in painting miniatures would certainly extend to other games, but D&D was my only miniature experience. I lack patience, I'm colorblind, and I'm only capable of what the game industry calls "programmer art".
 
BattleMonkey said:
Yea it sold out fast, I can only imagine that GW will want to try to do a couple more print runs of the game.

No... they advertised this as been a single print run only. Once its gone its gone.

Better nab your copy while you can.


As far as the above painting technique goes, he doesn't need to prime the minature. It's been dipped into a coat of furniture grade stain/varnish.

The technique is called dipping, and is extremely quick and easy to get stuff painted up if you don't know how to paint.

As long as you can block in some colours roughly, all you do is dip the minature into a solution such as can be found here

http://www.thearmypainter.com/

Roughly 1 hour and you could have an entirely 'painted' (dipped) set of minis.

Even if you don't want to paint a thing, I'd recommend doing this to at the very least bring out the details on the models, because the minis are absolutely sublime, but don't quite stand out that well in its native red plastic, without closeup inspection.


I just learned about the existence of 3rd edition space hulk yesterday, will be picking up my copy on thursday... and painting them by hand.

I was pretty good at that kinda thing back in the day...

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and I enjoyed painting them as much as playing the game.

Although I do need to varnish my minis... goddamn paint chips all over that pic. So sad.
 
With all the Space Hulk talk I had to bite the bullet and bought a copy at a local gameshop. I figured if I didn't like the game I could eBay it for close to what I payed for it if not more.

Btw, L.A. GAF the shop I bought my copy at was The Third Planet on Hawthorne and PCH in Torrance. They have 3 left in stock and they probably hold you a copy if you call them.

As for painting them I think I'll pass. I dabbled with Warhammer in high school and know how much of a time investment it is and I just dint have that much free time. Basically I'd rather be playing.
 
joeyjoejoeshabadoo said:
With all the Space Hulk talk I had to bite the bullet and bought a copy at a local gameshop. I figured if I didn't like the game I could eBay it for close to what I payed for it if not more.

Btw, L.A. GAF the shop I bought my copy at was The Third Planet on Hawthorne and PCH in Torrance. They have 3 left in stock and they probably hold you a copy if you call them.

As for painting them I think I'll pass. I dabbled with Warhammer in high school and know how much of a time investment it is and I just dint have that much free time. Basically I'd rather be playing.

I need to check out the game shop out here in the IE. I think some joint in Montclaire is the closest place.
 
joeyjoejoeshabadoo said:
Btw, L.A. GAF the shop I bought my copy at was The Third Planet on Hawthorne and PCH in Torrance. They have 3 left in stock and they probably hold you a copy if you call them.

I don't remember that place. Newish? I used to go to the gamekeeper in Del Amo before it closed...
 
Zaptruder said:
No... they advertised this as been a single print run only. Once its gone its gone.

Better nab your copy while you can.

They merely said limited edition, never said anything about a "single print run only". GW has done "limited" offers before only to have them come back at a later time.

The game sold out in less than 2 weeks, if the money is good, and it's feasible, I'm sure they will eventually want to make some more. If it's profitable for them I don't see why they shouldn't bother especially with how bad GW has been doing past 4 years.
 
platypotamus said:
I don't remember that place. Newish? I used to go to the gamekeeper in Del Amo before it closed...
Not sure, it was the first time I ever been. Seems like a decent enough store, it's big and actually air conditioned unlike Aero in Santa Monica. I didn't do too much browsing because I needed to get home but it seems like they have a good selection of games.

It's funny you mentioned Gamekeeper because I used to work at the one that used to be in the Westside Pavilion. That's where I first played Robo Rally during our many hours of down time. I swear the only thing that kept that store in business was the Pokemon cards.
 
joeyjoejoeshabadoo said:
It's funny you mentioned Gamekeeper because I used to work at the one that used to be in the Westside Pavilion. That's where I first played Robo Rally during our many hours of down time. I swear the only thing that kept that store in business was the Pokemon cards.

It was the only place I could get D&D or Magic:TG stuff for a long time, and then a game store (don't even remember the name any more) opened in El Segundo which was a lot closer. Then both closed, and I kinda got out of the pen and paper/board/card games thing until Amazon.com really came into prominence (along with some specific Internet retailers focused on this stuff).
 
Well, if you're still looking for Space Hulk lots of B&M stores still have them in stock. I keep hearing stories from people all over saying how they're available. My local game store, Gamescape in San Francisco, currently has a few copies left as well. On that same note there's also a local gaming group assembling here. Mainly longer games (i.e. 2+ hours) and, as a result, far more oriented towards Ameritrash, light wargames and the like.

Sunday, September 27, 11:00am at On the Corner (Divisadero/Oak in the Lower Haight)
Samurai Swords or Shogun

Other suggestions are welcome, but those two are what we've narrowed it down to so far.

I believe the weekend after this (or perhaps two weeks after) we're getting together for a game of Twilight Imperium.

Anyone in the SF area wants to get down with some Space Hulk to try it out or just to play just PM me.

jon bones said:
EDIT: JESUS CHRIST 100 BUCKS OH GOD IT LOOKS SO AWESOME THOUGH FUCK ME

Heh, check out the pricing on some hardcore wargames and prepare to be amazed. Especially considering that the components mean a few sheets of square cardboard chits that mainly contain text and a tiny bit of mediocre art, some maps, and the rules.

Advanced Squad Leader is $80 for the base rulebook which is 200 pages and comes in a binder (meh, about par for the course with RPGs) and in order to actually play you'll also need to buy the first module which contains the essentials you'll need to actually play the game and costs $100.

Case Blue comes with maps that be fully assembled to a size of 11' x 4', yes, FEET to the point that it's actually too big to really be able to play. It can be had for less in various places, but direct it sells for $220.

That's not even getting into how many of these games are from small publishers who make small print runs and go out of business making many of these games OOP and commanding even higher prices.

At least with SH you got incredibly high quality bits, beautiful art, and a damn nice complement of miniatures. Rather than just a few sheets of very dull looking cardboard. Great games, but you're paying more than a console and the actual physical bits you get for your money feel like you probably could have run them off at Kinkos.
 
it looks really cool but my friends and i don't really play boardgames so i know i'd buy it and it would just sit there unused for a long time.

such a shame, i'd love to blow a couple hours with my buddies rollin dice and using miniatures :lol i love that kind of stuff
 
Really, the main reason why Space Hulk is so fancy is because GW knows that they have a captive and established retail channel for the game and can fix MSRP. Any other company making a game with an MSRP of $100 or so is going to have 40% to half of that cost or so taken up by retailers.

It's also sort of a game they don't have to make a lot of money on-it gets W40K, their biggest seller and a bonafide "lifestyle" game, new blood and attention, and if people buy GW paint and art supplies for their figures they make money of of that.

Point is, the high quality of the game is subsidized in ways that most games couldn't dream of doing.

I'm actually really happy with wargame component quality. Counters are getting bigger and are thick, most games from the top and middle tier publishers have some really nice map artwork, mounted boards are starting to creep in more and more often, rulebooks are getting color treatment and have better examples, etc.

Only thing I can't stand is counter clipping, argh. In some games you pretty much have to do it since you've got so much stacking and oh god it can be a nightmare.
 
Haven't played a game yet, but finished painting up my first model... only 32 more to go.

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BattleMonkey said:
They merely said limited edition, never said anything about a "single print run only". GW has done "limited" offers before only to have them come back at a later time.

The game sold out in less than 2 weeks, if the money is good, and it's feasible, I'm sure they will eventually want to make some more. If it's profitable for them I don't see why they shouldn't bother especially with how bad GW has been doing past 4 years.

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To be fair, they've released a fairly sizeable number. You can probably grab them off ebay for months to come.
 
Zaptruder said:
Haven't played a game yet, but finished painting up my first model... only 32 more to go.

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To be fair, they've released a fairly sizeable number. You can probably grab them off ebay for months to come.

Damn this looks good. I have never painted anything in my life and the first two guys I did look kind of bad. Can you share some tips on how to keep the paint neat when doing the little details. I try to just get the smalles amount on the tip of the brush but it still seems to never go on correctly.
 
Justin said:
Damn this looks good. I have never painted anything in my life and the first two guys I did look kind of bad. Can you share some tips on how to keep the paint neat when doing the little details. I try to just get the smalles amount on the tip of the brush but it still seems to never go on correctly.

It depends on how much time you're willing to invest of course... I'm a fairly experienced painter, but very slow... doing a model to that quality took around 20 hours. It's ok for me because I do enjoy painting (but I'll be doing the genestealers in large batches with a more simple technique).

To paint at that kinda level, you will need the right tools. Good lighting, preferably from 2 arm mounted adjustable lights (or a commercial light setting from numerous high powered flourescnets) is very important. If you can't see it, you can't paint it.

Also need a few brushes; including an ultra fine detail brush (just head to a hobby store and ask for the smallest brush they have... mine is like a 5/0... which I guess is 00000, where 0 is considered traditionally as a fine brush).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/c...oryId=cat180020a&pIndex=1&aId=400007a&start=2

Also worthwhile following this paint guide. They also have a 360 degree minature gallery so you can follow their paint scheme.


BUT. I get the feeling you're a beginner... so I'll give you the kind of tips that helped me out when I was starting...

mount the minature to a base; glu-stick or old paint pot will do nicely, so you don't get your hand in the way of things.

Get a cheap plastic container... one of those take away containers is perfect; use the bottom for water, the top as a palette.

Red goes on white well, doesn't go on black well at all. You might need to prime your figure in white, then paint the bits that aren't going to be red black (with a fine brush). Alternatively, you can use multiple thin layers of red to build up the red coat, but it's a more advanced technique in that it tries your patience.


Never dip your brush in the pot and then go directly onto the minature; you have to dab your palette to see how the paint flows, and then wet the brush as needed (I recommend having drops of water next to the paint on the palette so you can mix as needed).

Paint that's too thick will overflow and also obscure detail once dried.


As a beginner, you don't want to be too ambitious; start with flat blocks of colour as in Stage 1, then use washes (thinned out watery paint) to lay the shading; the thinned out paint will flow into the recesses on the minature (as long as you didn't blot it out with thick paint).

Don't just paint the wash over the entire model though; carefully lay it down on the areas that need it (like carefully paint it over the eagle crest, carefully avoiding the red of the armor).


Also, keeping your minature steady while painting is important... at least in reference to your brush. Which means your brush wielding hand has to brace against your minature holding hand somehow; you can even brace against your own fingers to keep things steady. If you press against the model itself, then make sure to use a light touch, or you'll rub paint off.


If you're not up for all that, then block in the colours and check out that link that I put above; the army painter one... You'll still need to be neat and careful blocking in the colours... the more time and effort you take, the better it'll look. But at least you don't need to paint 0.2mm highlights across an entire model.

I'd only recommend learning the hardcore, traditional painting method if you're interested in collecting 40k stuff (or other minature based games). You're probably better served just ebaying a Space Hulk that's already been painted by some chinese dudes (runs about 600-700 bucks) if all you want is a nice space hulk set.

In fact, I was tempted to do that myself, except I wanted to know how good I was still (better than ever) and the colours from the ebay set aren't 100% accurate (to Games Workshop colours). I'm not collecting 40k stuff anymore though, so this is pretty much my last hurrah as far as painting goes.
 
Holy crap. I just kicked the last of my (very reluctant) friends out. Tomorrow is going to be hell.

We played three games of Chaos in the Old World.

I won the first game thanks to Nurgles VP upgrade and all-around awesomeness, lost the second as Tzeentch with no hope of ever reaching any victory condition, and would have won the last game as Khorne had my dice not gone into strike in the last round. It was incredibly close (one missing dial advancement token).

This game was worth every freaking penny.

So exhilarating. I'm suffering from the headache of my lifetime, but I want to play more. MORE. *twitch*


...



Oh, and it had to happen: two Alcolytes have already lost their staff end star/cross things. I think I'll just take the nailclipper to the rest of the lot, and remove that stupid staff. It doesn't look good, it's almost always in the way, and the plastic is way too weak for this delicate structure. Seriously, whoever designed that figurine was clueless.


Note to self: Check FAQ for Khorne & Slaneesh Warrior Upgrade clarification.

Now off to bed I go. So tired.
 
Yesterday, I happened to be buy a game shop on the east side that I hadn't been to before. Wow! Huge! nice selection and everything. The guys working at the time weren't super helpful, but I'll forgive them since they were trying to run a M:tG tourney.

I asked if they had Artisans and Benefactors expansion for Catan Card Game, and neither had heard of it and they were pretty sure they didn't have it. Of course, I end up stumbling across it while looking around, so I picked it up :)

They also had Twilight Struggle, but it was 56 bucks, and it wasn't the new reprint with awesome map that you guys told me is coming, so I passed.
 
Just scored a Khorne victory in a three player showdown.

Man, I love this game.

Edit: Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne!
 
Some comments from this weekend's game night:

I led the good guys to victory as the Sheriff in a game of Bang! with the Dodge City expansion. I don't care for the expansions, as I don't feel they add anything but time to the game, but things moved along at a reasonable clip, even while I played an extremely passive Sheriff and let everyone shoot each other for virtually the entire game. We got a lot of good gags out of it, some of the players had spectacular rounds, and this one Volcanic went halfway around the table in a single round, which is always good for a laugh.

We dusted off Through The Ages and played a four person simple game as a teaching exercise. It didn't take terribly long once we got rolling - only two of us had played before and we had to re-learn the rules anyway - and, despite my apprehension, the fourth player didn't drag the game down to a grinding halt. Now, if we were to try that with the advanced game or, god help us, the full game, I'm not so sure that it wouldn't have become an exercise in pain. Either way, the plan is to play the advanced game next week now that we've gotten back on the horse. I'll report back then.

Finally, I played a frustrating six player game of Race for the Galaxy. I simply have not gotten a proper handle on this game and, being given a solid opening hand of Alien cards with an emphasis on production, I tried to get the economic engine rolling. I really shouldn't have bothered, as I was the only one to ever play either the production or trade card. I knew it wasn't going to happen when by the third turn I had three cards out and the military player had nine, but I stuck with it and was at least able to get a major card out to help drag my score into fifth place instead of dead last. I can't say I had a good time, but at least it was quick. Sigh.

FnordChan
 
Newly painted. Gonna drop a pic everytime I paint one, but this thread doesn't see much activity anyway, so I guess a bump of anysort is welcome to boardgame fans.

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The wife and I played our first game of "Last Night on Earth" yesterday evening. FUN FUN zombie game! I was the humans, she played the undead. We were learning as we went, so not a whole lot of secrecy as most cards, meant to be secret until played, were discussed. Anyway, I got clobbered as my second hero succumbed to the zombie horde with 5 turns to go and me only halfway to my goal of 15 ghouls sent back to hell.

Lessons learned.
1. Get weapons FAST! Made the mistake of trying to go hand to hand too early. While the dice sorta favor the humans, actually killing a zombie is tough without weapons, so you get dragged down quickly. Lost my first hero quickly because of that.
2. Stay mobile! I eventually holed up in the school, stockpiling weapons. But that doesn't help as the zombie player has numerous ways to pin you down and swarm you. Fighting free can be tricky
3. God rocks! The priest, combined with the power of faith and a baseball bat, is a zombie crushing MACHINE! Plus he is incorruptible, so he can team up with the hot nurse for healing and not get pressured for sex (yes, the zombie character can trick your heros into having sex, costing them a turn :P
4. Much like Arkham Horror, I think it pays to specialize. Have some characters fight, the others search for loot.

The game is VERY dice dependent, eurogamers beware, so the human players are at the mercy of the roll. The zombies are a little more predictable, though they have many more cards to play. Still, once the rules are understood, it is a pretty fast and fun game. I think we finished in just over an hour, so with practice we should be able to knock out a game in under 60 minutes.
 
Zaptruder, great job on the Sergeant. That's the model I'm working on right now.

For those of you that have Space Hulk, if you're not happy with the way the tokens and counters looks around the edges (the exposed cardboard, I didn't like it), take a black permanent marker and paint over it. I've done it to all my markers and it looks tons better.
 
Leunam said:
Zaptruder, great job on the Sergeant. That's the model I'm working on right now.

For those of you that have Space Hulk, if you're not happy with the way the tokens and counters looks around the edges (the exposed cardboard, I didn't like it), take a black permanent marker and paint over it. I've done it to all my markers and it looks tons better.

Thanks. Would be good to see your results too! Or anyone else that has bought space hulk and decided to paint their minis.

The permanent marker is a good trick as well. I was thinking to myself, I should paint the sides black, but of course permanent marker which just for some reason hadn't crossed my mind works even better. Except my marker is too fat for the acute angles on the interlocking sections. :p
 
Neverfade said:
Very nice. I assume the sword effect was as simple as hand painting the lightning?

Yes, it's painted... I don't know if I'd call it a simple process though!

I'm basically following the step by step in the White Dwarf masterclass guides. It's quite tedious actually. In fact, I'm pretty sure they insert steps just to have enough steps for show.
 
Zaptruder said:
Thanks. Would be good to see your results too! Or anyone else that has bought space hulk and decided to paint their minis.

The permanent marker is a good trick as well. I was thinking to myself, I should paint the sides black, but of course permanent marker which just for some reason hadn't crossed my mind works even better. Except my marker is too fat for the acute angles on the interlocking sections. :p

Well I'll tell ya, it's not very impressive. I've finished the red and the gold so now I need to do the rest of the details.

I've only done the markers and tokens so far, but for my corridors and rooms, I was going to do the edges that don't interlock with other pieces, since they usually won't be exposed anyway.
 
Wife (at my request) got me a copy of Where there is Discord: War in the South Atlantic for my birthday. Really impressive component quality-two fully mounted mapboards, two glossy full-color booklets (one for the instructions, the other for the event actions for each of the cards), big-ass 1" counters that are in their own individual cuts so they come off smooth without needing any trimming (ala Conflict of Heroes), twenty(!) dice, and a really pretty set of cards.

Sort of my wargamer version of "Space Hulk" in terms of component glitz. Apparently the game is really good too, but my friend and I are 1/2 of the way through a play of an Elusive Victory scenario right now so I'll either have to clear out another space or wait until we are done this weekend.
 
wow fantastic job on those minis Zaptruder

First GW re-releases a classic game using an earlier, superior ruleset, then publishes a FAQ about the game a few weeks after release. Did someone sensible take over GW when I wasnt paying attention?
 
Thanks for the compliments

Here's my first ever genestealer. I don't have hormagaunt purple, so the purple is a bit darker and more saturated than the official GW colours. Personally I like this colour more anyway.

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Bonus mini diorama with last night's sergeant facing off with the newly painted genestealer.

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Lakedaimon said:
wow fantastic job on those minis Zaptruder

First GW re-releases a classic game using an earlier, superior ruleset, then publishes a FAQ about the game a few weeks after release. Did someone sensible take over GW when I wasnt paying attention?


do you have a link for that, the GW site is.. not easy to find things liek that.
 
Just ordered the new Warhammer Invasion LCG, it looks pretty nice and like the concept of a non collectible card game that retains CCG like mechanics. Quality looking art and contents all around, was very pleased with FFG's Chaos in the Old World, so hope this turns out good as well.

And for tabletop gaf, just finished up my SS Panzerdivision for Flames of War recently, came out pretty well, first time using an airbrush.

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Shnell!
 
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