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Bob's job got outsourced to China
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John Dunbar
correct about everything
if you spend 8 hours a day watching movies think how many posts you could make in the "Movies you've seen recently" thread.
ElectricBlue187
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Should've created a local proxy on a home server for the Chinese to connect through. Then he could keep his VPN keyfob and nobody would be the wiser
LyleLanley
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Why pay him half when he's content working for a sixth of it?
Incontinentia Buttocks
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His name is Robert Poulson.
idd, promote him to management and bob's your uncle
Tea and Toast
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He had a six figure salary and he spent his time looking at cats? He needs better aspirations.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
This is fucking amazing :lol
ElectricBlue187
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The more I think about this story the more I think it's bullshit. He mailed off his keyfob? So he just never logged in ever? There's no way he was that dumb
CommonSense
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In this thread GAF cheers the further deterioration of the US jobs market due to horrible employee performance and work ethic. In another thread gaf bitches about not finding a job...
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I don't think his work ethics are amazing, and the US job market doesn't really concern me since I don't live there. What I do find amazing is his ingenuity and how he managed to pull off his scheme for so long without anyone catching on to it.
Angry Fork
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The company he worked for got more bang for their buck, based on this system the only loser is the guy who got paid less than required in China to do someone else's work. Since when do capitalists care about who did the labor as long as they squeeze as much as they can from whoever they can con.
If you don't think this guy should be applauded neither should any scumbag who makes money betting on wall street and wouldn't know how to hammer a nail in a wall to save his life.
CommonSense
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Happens more than you think in IT. Even in this tech savvy age the majority of large corporation decisionmakers avoid IT like the plague and understand what goes on in a datacenter about as much as I understand the string theory.
I knew a guy who had outsourced the exchange servers to a colocation and continued to make over 90k a year "managing" email for a very large hospital group. Comical.
CommonSense
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I admire work ethic and integrity not manipulation and dishonesty.
CommonSense
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Also, porn. No way this dude wasn't surfing porn during the day.
My first day at work after college I had to reformat the CEO's pc because he had surfed so much porn he had acquired more viruses than an 80's porn star. Considered telling my boss but didn't. Eventually you become numb to what people have on their desktops.
Well unless the FBI wants a peek...but that's another story.
Depending on his job and the nature of the work it's very possible he's committed multiple crimes just regarding the import and export of technical data without the proper licenses. This is a multimillion dollar liability for his employer, and again this only covers import and export laws.
Angry Fork
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This shit only survives through manipulation and dishonesty, and everyone does it to each other to get higher on the totem pole. Any person's success is someone else's loss. Nothing is gained in unison as long as you're rewarded for being a prick to other people.
CommonSense
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This is simply not true. I mean it happens on occasion but you're really really out there man.
There is no incentive to have a good work ethic. If you are an outstanding programmer and work long hours, management will just take that into account and hire less new programmers or even fire some.
Then they will take you as an example for your colleagues and demand they will do the same or get a pay cut. The only thing you will have achieved is the anger of your co-workers.
In other words, the problem in most cases is mostly management, whose only interest is the short-term improvement of the cost/income ratio (thus lining their own pockets) and not the long-term fostering of a productive work environment.
When an employee outsources, it's lazy and dishonest. When the company owner does it, it's good business.
CornBurrito
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A company owner who lies and breaks the law when outsourcing is also lazy and dishonest.
CommonSense
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Hmmmm....interesting because I know quite a few guys that cut their chops coding and eventually become heads of departments...in both the civil and public sector. The way some of you constantly attack management may have a lot to do with your prospects of promotion. It's not always "their" fault.
CommonSense
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By owner you mean board of directors...and yes some are cutthroat and only see the bottom line. I am on a board and I push for ethical treatment and domestic job growth. Not everyone is a bad guy.
Well...board of directors when there's a board of directors. Not all companies have them. Not sure what you think I'm saying!
CommonSense
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My mistake. When we talk outsourcing the majority of it comes from the F500 not small companies with a singular owner.
Btw nobody was complaining about outsourcing during the industrial revolution when the US was functionally the China of the world. Global partberships were always and will always be necessary to compete in the modern market.
Contractors and other small businesses outsource all the time. In fact small businesses that lack the footprint to do various jobs contract them out to all sorts of places regularly.
But my original point was in response to the other poster suggesting a business owner was perceived as having done a good job while this employee is doing the same thing but we're criticizing him. The problem is this employee isn't doing the same thing, and any business that did what this guy has done would be criticized similarly.
CommonSense
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Ah...i agree. BTW it's rather difficult as a small business to contract in china. The big guys do their level best to block any for of competition...but that's not relevant here.
Not always, but I have witnessed quite some examples of corporate greed, which I will not get into. Maybe I just have had bad luck with my employers, which have been mostly big insurers and banks.
And promoting someone who is good at coding to management is in many cases a very bad idea. In my last job, my manager was someone who couldn't deal with people at all, resulting in mid-year and end-year reviews being very late or not being done at all.
He got promoted though because of his total unquestioning loyalty to higher management, which seems to be more important.
Sir_Crocodile
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I guess this gives him more time to write bob's game
Tawney Bomb
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This story is great. Can't even be mad at the guy.
Not for Bob.
CommonSense
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Uh not sure you know how it works. It is often easier to subcontract union labor in the state the work is being performed than to fly your guys in and house them. Also most states unions will force you to use local labor...for good reason.
SillyEskimo
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Sadly, this is also the very first thing I thought of.
Hiring the local labor directly would've been cheaper than hiring some big out-of-state firm that only then hires local labor and takes a huge cut for being a middle-man.
CommonSense
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Again...you seem to not understand this.
a bid goes out...people quote it. They are awarded the job at the quoted price. There is no "middle man".
The local guy either chose to bid with the CM or lost his direct bid.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm sorry but this is fucking awesome.
Yup. Every time i see it when scrolling :|
Why?
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
He was one step too lazy.
What's weird is that he was seemingly still showing up for work at his own home and then goofing off.
This.
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