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[Ignatz Mouse]

As we've talked about before, clamoring for auteur-y directors for Bond is beyond pointless. Like, people still mention Tarantino as if it's something that either he or Eon could live with. As Solo points out you're never really in charge if you're the Bond director. Of course the director needs to know his craft and and can add qualities to the film, but someone with a very particular vision in his head would never be able to co-operate with Broccoli & Co.

If people need further proof of this, look no further than Apted's effort. Apted is an excellent director for Bond-- if he would have been allowed to be.

Directing Bond will never been an auteur's game.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Disagree.

A sequel is in and of itself "fanservice." The fact that there's 24 of them is beyond "fanservice."

If you didn't want "fanservice" you'd be watching other movies.

 

[BertramCooper]

Just saying, its also this.

Oh please god no.

Don't do this to me, EON.

 

[jelly]

and Mendes has a Best Director Oscar. Didn't seem to discourage him from taking the job (twice!).

Nolan's a huge Bond fan, has met with the producers, clearly loves making blockbuster films. I don't think he'll definitely do one, but I think he's more likely to do it than not, and I believe -- like Mendes -- he'd be willing to cede some creative control ("zero" seems like an exaggeration) for a chance to work on a childhood favorite franchise.

Nolan would probably be better off doing his own take on Spies.

If he did do Bond, definetly post Craig era. He should be stepping down after this or the next one.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

His talent isn't the problem, very good director.. He likes old Bond and that's all he wants to do. The last film made bank so they won't change. I don't rate Skyfall at all beyond cinematography. Daniel Craig wants to make the perfect Bond film but they are looking in the past unfortunately. I doubt Broccoli wants to take it anywhere new either. The formula in some ways is fine but it can be so shit sometimes like Skyfall and just be terribly boring and stupid.

yeah. Fuck that. I love Craig and all, and thinks he's the best bond, but I hated the campiness of the old. They're AWFUL. And spectre will be even cheesier? Yeah, thank Christ greengrass and Damon are coming back for Bourne 5.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

People are so messed up. This information is either relevant when it backs up their case or irrelevant when it goes against the point they're trying to make.

 

[jelly]

Oh please god no.

Don't do this to me, EON.

That his wife from Her Majesty's ?

 

[Blader]

yeah. Fuck that. I love Craig and all, and thinks he's the best bond, but I hated the campiness of the old. They're AWFUL. And spectre will be even cheesier? Yeah, thank Christ greengrass and Damon are coming back for Bourne 5.

Said who?

 

[Rich!]

People are so messed up. This information is either relevant when it backs up their case or irrelevant when it goes against the point they're trying to make.

yep

 

[PHOTOSHOP]

Disagree. There have been plenty of good bond films that didn't resort to Rehashing Sean Connery era films. Goldeneye, Casino Royale, etc. had a few winks and nods but they stood on their own as modern bond films. What Sam Mendes is doing is actively trying to recreate the 60s films which is annoying.

yup
007 is going nowhere new. Unless they take some risk.

Fuck all these continuity between the movies. Thats why Quantum of Solace sucked. Every James Bond movie should feel unique in its own way

 

[Peru]

yeah. Fuck that. I love Craig and all, and thinks he's the best bond, but I hated the campiness of the old. They're AWFUL. And spectre will be even cheesier? Yeah, thank Christ greengrass and Damon are coming back for Bourne 5.

There's no way Spectre will be cheesier than old Bond and no one believes that.

 

[brandonh83]

And I find Lea Seydoux incredibly attractive as well

Well. Yeah.

 

[Principate]

People are so messed up. This information is either relevant when it backs up their case or irrelevant when it goes against the point they're trying to make.

It's always freaking relevant you cannot ignore the highest grossing bond film of all time. No is is surprised, because Skyfall was by all accounts a success.

 

[Gawge]

re. Bond Continuity.

As has been said, it is just hazy, and I think that it should be taken to be hazy. We can agree that Dr. No to Die Another Day is clearly the same character in the same universe. We have the small moments of continuity to 'prove' this, but at the same time, you could dig away at technology and age problems all you want.

Whilst Casino Royale was never stated as a reboot, I felt as if it was something they were open to - but after Skyfall, it is something that I now think has been eased away from.

At the same time, I wouldn't call CR a prequel.

I think we are now far beyond the point of being able to create a 'timeline' for the character. Bond is his own thing, he's a group of ideas. There will never be an explicit overarching timeline, Bond is a kind of family of films - within which there will be clear continuity (usually within the films of a single actor), but there are no definitive points where you can say 'Bond from film X, is a different Bond to the one from film Y'.

I think this is without a doubt true pre-CR, Bond is always the same person, but there is no timeline. And I think we will eventually end up accepting the Craig films into this framework.

 

[Gambit 1138]

A sequel is in and of itself "fanservice." The fact that there's 24 of them is beyond "fanservice."

If you didn't want "fanservice" you'd be watching other movies.

I want new stories and adventures with the character not a recreation/rehash of iconic films from the 60s that will never top the original Connery films. This movie almost sounds as bad as Terminator Genysis imo. I'm hoping they do something fresh but sky fall doesn't give me a lot of hope.

 

[AuthenticM]

Oh please god no.

Don't do this to me, EON.

I doubt they are going down that route again. Bond already lost his love in this universe; it would be redundant to go back there again.

 

[Rich!]

This movie almost sounds as bad as Terminator Genysis imo.

Hahahaha, oh man. That gave me a chuckle.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Said who?

I'm sorry. Cheesier than skyfall. From craigs mouth himself.

 

[G-Fex]

Not sure about Bautista. I mean..he's Bautista.


Iconic new villain? I am not 100% sure of that.

 

[BigJonsson]

Mutated sea bass?

 

[BertramCooper]

I think it's easiest to view the series as rebooting with each new actor, and each actor's tenure as being a self-contained arc.

That's obviously not the official EON approach to it, but trying to figure out any sort of logical continuity between the various actors' tenures is a fool's errand.

 

[erlim]

But Monica is 50 and Craig is 46.

This woman is 50 y/o

Man.

Maaaan.


Also, OT but I think Dalton is an underrated Bond.

I feel like that's how 46 year old dudes look.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Whilst Casino Royale was never stated as a reboot, I felt as if it was something they were open to - but after Skyfall, it is something that I now think has been eased away from.

Nah. It's a reboot. Skyfall doesn't ease away from it, it solidifies it. It can't be a prequel, and it can't be a vague sequel.

It's a new Bond with a completely separate continuity.

 

[Enron]

I feel like that's how 46 year old dudes look.

Seriously. 100% of 46 year-old dudes want to look like this.

 

[xandaca]

Disagree. There have been plenty of good bond films that didn't resort to Rehashing Sean Connery era films. Goldeneye, Casino Royale, etc. had a few winks and nods but they stood on their own as modern bond films. What Sam Mendes is doing is actively trying to recreate the 60s films which is annoying.

What makes you think they're rehashing? The story is new, most of the characters are new. The fact they're bringing back Blofeld and SPECTRE, two icons of the series which were used relatively little even in their day, is not rehashing at all if it's in a new context and continuity. You might as well complain about all the times Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty or Superman and Lex Luthor come together. Just because any serialised elements have been pretty relaxed in the series so far doesn't mean the moment they bring something back it's just to retell the same stories as in the past. No-one wants another situation like Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness, but there's been no indication that's what's happening. For one thing, the pre-CR continuity never delved into Bond's younger years and childhood and I think it's cool they're finally exploring that part of the character.

 

[Peru]

I'm sorry. Cheesier than skyfall. From craigs mouth himself.

That's less important than other faults of Skyfall. In fact I didn't find Skyfall particularly cheesy. Not many one liners or Q jokes. But severe faults in characters, plot development.

 

[brandonh83]

I must not be a big enough Bond fan to understand the complaints about this being fanservice or a rehash or whatever, especially without even seeing anything from it... but I reckon that's okay. People can have their opinions. I'm hyped as fuck. Loved Skyfall, too.

 

[PHOTOSHOP]

shoutout to Daniel Craig starting from the bottom to James Bond.

 

[G-Fex]

shoutout to Daniel Craig starting from the bottom to James Bond.

American accent dude

 

[Delta Assault]

yep

The M that Judi Dench plays in the Brosnan films is called Barbara Mawdsley (in scripts and raymond benson's official novelizations) and the M she plays in the Craig films is called Olivia Mansfield (as written on her urn at the end of Skyfall).

So um, is it a job requirement that your last name has to start with the letter M? Cause I gotta say, that seems like it'd really limit your hiring pool.

And I highly doubt they'd go the kill his wife route in this new movie, if for no other reason than the fact that they just about did it in all but name in Casino Royale already.

 

[WrenchNinja]

shoutout to Daniel Craig starting from the bottom to James Bond.

I'm sorry, but this is the bottom

 

[Delta Assault]

I'm sorry, but this is the bottom

Holy shit, Kate Winslet too?!

 

[Gaz_RB]

Nolan already did Bond, and did it better (Inception)

Hahahaha what?

 

[Blader]

I'm sorry. Cheesier than skyfall. From craigs mouth himself.

not knowing where you heard/read that I can still guarantee he, or anyone on the production, never said the words "cheesier than Skyfall."

Bringing in more humor or lightheartedness is one thing. But levity =/= camp.

 

[Secret Fawful]

moonraker was amazing, despite the rest of the film being subpar

bond thrown out of a plane without a parachute by jaws, fights random dude, steals parachute, fights jaws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiDvpeWk0P8

all filmed for real (with stuntmen of course)

Now I know what the Get Smart remake was parodying. I need to watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service, as I've always heard it's the best Bond film.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/ja...lMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default

 

[bodyofanamerican]

The best twist ever would be (BBC Sherlock spoilers)

Spoiler

if fucking Andrew Scott was Blofeld the whole time.

I'd explode in joy.

 

[hydruxo]

Christoph Waltz is all I needed to see. Day one.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

People are so messed up. This information is either relevant when it backs up their case or irrelevant when it goes against the point they're trying to make.

I dont understand how it could ever be irrelevant to this particular argument.

Why did the Broccoli's hire Mendes again? because he made the highest grossing movie in UK box office history and made double worldwide the #2 grossing movie in the Bond franchise. It won Oscars and Bafta's and sits with a high rating on pretty much every metascore site.

You're not asking why someone thinks the movie is good and being given that pic, you're asking why a producer would hire the same guy as before...and that pic shows all you need to know.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

The best twist ever would be (BBC Sherlock spoilers)

Spoiler

if fucking Andrew Scott was Blofeld the whole time.

I'd explode in joy.

Oh God, they're gonna fucking do that, believe it.

 

[BertramCooper]

The best twist ever would be (BBC Sherlock spoilers)

Spoiler

if fucking Andrew Scott was Blofeld the whole time.

I'd explode in joy.

On a related note, it should be interesting to see if

Spoiler

they follow series tradition by recasting Blofeld in each film or stick with Waltz (or Scott, if your theory is true) for multiple films

.

Spoiler

Because Blofeld obviously isn't going to die in this film. Not a chance.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

On a related note, it should be interesting to see if

Spoiler

they follow series tradition by recasting Blofeld in each film or stick with Waltz (or Scott, if your theory is true) for multiple films

.

Spoiler

Because Blofeld obviously isn't going to die in this film. Not a chance.

Well, they kept the same Felix.

I sure as help hope they break the "tradition."

 

[Razorskin]

Hahahaha what?

not serious

 

[Scott32020]

That's what makes it a joke.

Just the fact that Casino Royale is set in the present makes it decidedly not a prequel to the earlier Bonds.

Was there any consideration of resetting to the 1960s for Casino Royale. That would have been interesting, particularly withCraig. Not sure how successful it would have been.

 

[Grexeno]

So obviously Andrew Scott is the main villain of this movie, with Christoph Waltz revealing himself as Blofeld at the end.

Spoiler

It'll actually be Waltz as the main villain, while Scott is an MI6 pencil-pusher like Tanner who reveals himself to be Blofeld at the end.

 

[LiK]

man, Bautista is moving on up.

 

[AuthenticM]

On a related note, it should be interesting to see if

Spoiler

they follow series tradition by recasting Blofeld in each film or stick with Waltz (or Scott, if your theory is true) for multiple films

.

Spoiler

Because Blofeld obviously isn't going to die in this film. Not a chance.

What if it is revealed that Blofeld is James Bond's long lost brother and their father is actually not dead and he is the villain and B&J team up to smash him ?

 

[NeonZ]

That's what makes it a joke.

Just the fact that Casino Royale is set in the present makes it decidedly not a prequel to the earlier Bonds.

So... what? You think that the Bond of the previous continuity was an immortal? I don't think the real world dates are necessarily relevant for a character with a long continuity like that - to the point where they were clearly disregarding aging. Just look at comic books, where new stories taking place in the past are often modernized (for example, stories taking place around Spiderman's origin don't take place in the 60s, in spite of his debut originally taking place there).

Of course, that doesn't mean that the current movies are part of that continuity anyway. The only thing even suggesting that was the nod in Skyfall, but this movie could easily crush all that by introducing Spectre and Blofeld as something new to Bond. On the other hand, even if there's past story between the characters here, there won't be explicit direct references to very old movies, so this kind of discussion likely will continue...

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I can't wait this long. I need Daniel Craig now!

 

[Phoenix]

Looking forward to this. Hopefully this means a level of villainy that won't be as bad as we've gotten thus far.