DeaconKnowledge
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This whole "hardware redesign" dick-waving contest is ridiculous. All hardware is redesigned over its life. Why do you think we have Ipod Nano's and shuffles now?
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Breaking: Sony UK boss confirms PSP redesign
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Die Squirrel Die
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aparisi2274 said:
I like my PSP immensely but that's simply not true. Even if they don't touch the look of the system or add stuff like internal flash memory, they could (and should) certainly improve the D-Pad (sort out the non-responsiveness of hitting diagonals), improve the solidity of the buttons so they feel less flimsy, a better quality screen to cut down on ghosting and a better battery for longer life (although that could be sold separately).
A better battery life could also mean that they could finally unlock the full speed of the CPU. However if they were to remanufacture the chips down to 222mhz as I think jonnyram suggested, I'd be okay with that, given the quality of graphics that a lot of devs are achieving with the current locked CPU.
AdmiralViscen
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Link316 said:
uh huh
Yea, I never said Nintendo was first. I specifically said there was nothing innovative about it.
TreasureHunterG
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About time...
Die Squirrel Die said:
Please no, they should be able to get both battery life up and unlock the CPU. It's the only way to ever get me to buy a redesigned PSP unless my current one breaks. Not only am I interested in seeing what could be done in 333Mhz mode, but 333Mhz mode on 222Mhz mode game's is too good of a thing to lose.
Rancid Mildew
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Defuser said:
What's wrong with screwing them over? Nintendo did it with the DS Lite and the awesomely better screens. Apple does it with their iPod all the time. A new hardware revision screws over every early adopter. Why not go one step further and add new features to make the system even better?
PorscheThunder
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How much trade in credit would I get for my PSP? And a 2GB memory stick?
How much trade in credit would I get for my PSP? And a 2GB memory stick?
Keiishi Viciat
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Sho Nuff said:
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DeaconKnowledge
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Rancid Mildew said:
Because Nintendo's redesign of the DS was sheerly aesthetic. What you're suggesting for the PSP would be akin to Nintendo making the second screen touch, not increasing the brightness. The second they do that and somebody makes a game that requires BOTH, the original DS is obsolete. That would piss off hordes of people.
Sony would only add gaming related features (like dual analog) if they were scrapping the original PSP and going forward with PSP2. Anything else would be suicide.
It is ugly, but it would work as a concept mockup/model for a PSP2McBacon said:Heres one I made, its made its way around a tonne of websites, some as just imagery for a story, some actually thinking its a new PSP.
I didn't win the competition It went in for.
And honestly, it's pretty ugly.
I don't see anything wrong with the PSP the way it is right now really. The battery life could be longer but mine still lasts long enough. Just making it smaller isn't going to have as big of an effect on me as the DS Lite did in comparison to the DS fat. I'd probably bite if they added internal memory or something though.
If this is the case then HELL NO, I'm totally against a redesign that implements this. Are there any products or functions for the PSP that are able to use the extra power the 333mhz chip has without hacking? If not, then I suppose this could be a real possibility. :/
Jonnyram said:
If this is the case then HELL NO, I'm totally against a redesign that implements this. Are there any products or functions for the PSP that are able to use the extra power the 333mhz chip has without hacking? If not, then I suppose this could be a real possibility. :/
Eh.
On the one hand, the PSP needs a boost in sales, which a redesign will help to achieve.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if Sony won't lose even more money in the process. I mean, redesigning a console that already looked good with an amazing screen (save for the ghosting) is not what I would call a really good move. Sure, if they improve the battery life as well as the nub stick and the D-Pad, they'll sell a few more PSPs to the (hardcore) gamers. The DS Lite was really attractive compared to the DS Phat (which, mind you, I LIKE, actually). Plus, the battery life was even better, and the screens received a real improvement. Save for the battery life, Sony can't really improve the PSP by a noticeable margin on the technical side. And it already looks gorgeous.
If the redesign does not get rid of the two main issues (i.e. price and games) and does not enjoy a good marketing strategy, will it be of any help? Granted, the marketing side can be improved, but the price and the games?
On the one hand, the PSP needs a boost in sales, which a redesign will help to achieve.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if Sony won't lose even more money in the process. I mean, redesigning a console that already looked good with an amazing screen (save for the ghosting) is not what I would call a really good move. Sure, if they improve the battery life as well as the nub stick and the D-Pad, they'll sell a few more PSPs to the (hardcore) gamers. The DS Lite was really attractive compared to the DS Phat (which, mind you, I LIKE, actually). Plus, the battery life was even better, and the screens received a real improvement. Save for the battery life, Sony can't really improve the PSP by a noticeable margin on the technical side. And it already looks gorgeous.
If the redesign does not get rid of the two main issues (i.e. price and games) and does not enjoy a good marketing strategy, will it be of any help? Granted, the marketing side can be improved, but the price and the games?
the thoroughbred
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Imagine if it had a touch screen. That would be jokes.:lol :lol :lol
Or, too lite too late.
Or, too lite too late.
sixteen-bit
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Yeah it's tough imagining even worse controls than the final production.Keiishi Viciat said:
Sho Nuff said:
Don't care about the internal flash - TBH they want to sell memory sticks, so just enough for some save games would be ok. Other than that, I agree.
Although I still think it needs to be smaller, and I don't mind a smaller screen. 3.5" widescreen would still be good.
oh, and the clamshell needs to double up as a kickstand for watching videos on the go.
McBacon said:Heres one I made, its made its way around a tonne of websites, some as just imagery for a story, some actually thinking its a new PSP.
I didn't win the competition It went in for.
And honestly, it's pretty ugly.
You used a Saturn pad as a starting point? Good choice if you were trying to remedy the controls
MickeyKnox
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This is so pointless the biggest barrier to the psp's success is not form factor but PRICE. Make the damn thing $120 or under, make sure the games cost $20 and you will have a hit on your hands.
All that redesigning the thing will do is give them an excuse to keep the ****ing price at ~$200.
All that redesigning the thing will do is give them an excuse to keep the ****ing price at ~$200.
McBacon said:Heres one I made, its made its way around a tonne of websites, some as just imagery for a story, some actually thinking its a new PSP.
I didn't win the competition It went in for.
And honestly, it's pretty ugly.
Kinda ugly, but it looks a lot more comfortable to hold.
MickeyKnox said:
And that's why no one payed hundreds of dollars for the RAZR, right?
Most of the people who are interested in a PSP are already carrying around a cell phone, iPod, pager, camera, etc., and are willing to pay a premium for a smaller device. A DS Lite can fit comfortably in the pockets of my jeans; the current PSP can't. If it's a choice between paying an extra $50 or having to wear cargo pants just to carry the system around with me, I'll gladly pay the extra money.
MickeyKnox
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As if a ****ing cell phone is comparable to a handheld gaming device.tokkun said:
-Shrink the screen? From my cold dead hands.
-Better screen? Are you really gonna pay extra for another screen that has the same ghosting problems,but to a slightly less degree? All LCDs ghost, it's just a matter of how much.
-Internal memory? Not a bad idea by any means. 8GB won't seem like so much when 32GB memory sticks are out in a couple years.
The screen size must remain the same since it's so damn nice. A brighter screen? Is that even possible without a mobile generator? I have firmware 3.10 OE-A' and I can use the brightest setting unplugged. All it does is eat batteries (of which I have a 2600mAh one).
My suggestions are to redesign the d-pad AND nub. The PS brand d-pad has always been garbage. I have never liked it. Hated it with my PS1, and I still hate it today. The nub is also fairly useless. It works great in racing games, but playing Winning Eleven is a chore. I would prefer the nub in that game, but it cramps my hand due to L-button being the change player control. The nub also seems kinda inprecise. Maybe it's just me, but again, besides racing games, I stick to the uncomfortable d-pad. On the right side, I would tighten up the square button's seating. I can see the edge of the screen through the gap in the housing around the square button. I would also remove the strap loop from the lower left corner and put it on the bottom, if anywhere. I would raise the Home and Start buttons a bit, or at least make them "clicky". That's a real minor nitpick though. Otherwise, all changes need to be internal. Power-efficient chips, a 2600mAh battery or bigger (mine fits with the battery cover on), and video-out.
Don't wait for a redesign, though. It won't be guaranteed hackable, and homebrew is really the best part of owning a PSP. I only play PSP games, which are supposedly few and far between, but the option or running emu means this is the first and probably last handheld I'll ever own. PEACE.
-Better screen? Are you really gonna pay extra for another screen that has the same ghosting problems,but to a slightly less degree? All LCDs ghost, it's just a matter of how much.
-Internal memory? Not a bad idea by any means. 8GB won't seem like so much when 32GB memory sticks are out in a couple years.
The screen size must remain the same since it's so damn nice. A brighter screen? Is that even possible without a mobile generator? I have firmware 3.10 OE-A' and I can use the brightest setting unplugged. All it does is eat batteries (of which I have a 2600mAh one).
My suggestions are to redesign the d-pad AND nub. The PS brand d-pad has always been garbage. I have never liked it. Hated it with my PS1, and I still hate it today. The nub is also fairly useless. It works great in racing games, but playing Winning Eleven is a chore. I would prefer the nub in that game, but it cramps my hand due to L-button being the change player control. The nub also seems kinda inprecise. Maybe it's just me, but again, besides racing games, I stick to the uncomfortable d-pad. On the right side, I would tighten up the square button's seating. I can see the edge of the screen through the gap in the housing around the square button. I would also remove the strap loop from the lower left corner and put it on the bottom, if anywhere. I would raise the Home and Start buttons a bit, or at least make them "clicky". That's a real minor nitpick though. Otherwise, all changes need to be internal. Power-efficient chips, a 2600mAh battery or bigger (mine fits with the battery cover on), and video-out.
Don't wait for a redesign, though. It won't be guaranteed hackable, and homebrew is really the best part of owning a PSP. I only play PSP games, which are supposedly few and far between, but the option or running emu means this is the first and probably last handheld I'll ever own. PEACE.
Corwood Rep
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Pimpwerx said:
This is exactly how I look at it right now. It'd be months before the redesign would be worth owning, because it will take a whole lot more work to completely rob the thing of security and get it to run whatever you want. Not to mention worries about whether it'll even be able to do 333mhz. If the homebrew community can't figure out how to completely open it, it won't really be worth owning barring a big harddrive and an online distribution model. (I'd love to have a PMP that can play console-quality games. The PSP would be the ultimate solution if Sony could give me more than a measly 8 gigs of flash storage.)
Corwood Rep
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God clamshells suck. I wouldn't buy a clamshell. It's totally unnecessary and cumbersome.
You know the iPod? It's just as fragile. Know what you do? Buy a damn silicone protector like the iSkin. Not that complicated.
You know the iPod? It's just as fragile. Know what you do? Buy a damn silicone protector like the iSkin. Not that complicated.
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