Bony Manifesto
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I'm struggling to see what the alternative is...
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Broken Sword 5 releasedates announced (episode 1 on Dec 4, episode 2 in Jan)
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I'm struggling to see what the alternative is...
This, pretty much. If you put down money for a Kickstarter tier, you're entitled to the rewards from that tier. That pretty much implies that you are entitled to the entire game, and Revolution denying you that would open them up to lawsuits.
That said, there's absolutely ways they could have probably juggled the terminology to get away with it, but it's probably far easier and better press just to give the whole thing out - I suspect that was always their intention anyhow.
I assume the two episodes thing is largely so they can get *something* available to sell prior to Christmas; I assume the core engine is robust now, and the main testing needs to be done on the gameflow. As such, testing just the first acts to release them would be quicker than having to do the whole game before release.
peanutbutterlatte
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I have a feeling the Revolution staff aren't getting much of a Christmas vacation, put it that way...
Beta hasn't started yet (we ought to be getting info about that RSN), so if we take them as expecting about a month to fully beta-test the first episode, it'd follow that they'd probably expect a similar month to do the second. Since they only say "in January", then that could be a spell of time from the start of December to the end of January, more time than they're expecting to need.
In short, they *ought* to be able to fit a fair amount of time off in there; the only bit where they might feel the need to be strict is perhaps expecting everyone to be back by a date early in Jan.
Sir_Crocodile
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Having been checking all the development details, I think the true reason for the split is probably because they split the voice recording sessions into two.
Not a big deal for backers, but people buying them expecting "two full games" might want to take that with a pinch of salt.
Not a big deal for backers, but people buying them expecting "two full games" might want to take that with a pinch of salt.
Sir_Crocodile
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If that's true it represents tremendous value for money, but I'll believe it when I see it. Or in this case, play it.
What's superior about the vita version? Being able to play it while taking a dump?
Gangxxter
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Not really, each BS game tells a story on its own and those stories are not really connected together.
I would suggest you to watch Let's Plays of those games.
Vita is superior everything. Hopefully BSV utilitzes it's touch screen capabilities...
...it's a point and click adventure.
If they didn't use the touchscreen, something is *very* wrong with their planning.
HassanJamal
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Getting this on vita. Played the my first Broken Sword game on PS2 
Hopefully I can complete this one!
Hopefully I can complete this one!
Gangxxter
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This.
BS5 will also be released on iOS and Android anyways, so it definitely use the touchscreen on the Vita. There is also a video from Gamescom somewhere where Charles shows the Vita version with the touch controls.
Stumpokapow
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Not really new or unprecedented - Syberia I and II are each 6-8 hours and were sold separately and full price (and several years apart!)
gift of 100 gab
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Weren't those two different games though? I mean, the second was just a regular sequel. I never played the second so I can't comment on the content but that was the impression I had. This is more the intentended full game got split into two because the couldn't get all of it out this year?
Sir_Crocodile
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The pricing for both combined is cheaper then BS1 or BS2 were, so it's pretty good value even if each is only half of a BS game. I think they'll be at the very least a bit bigger then half, unless that guy mclem linked to is really bad at p&c games.
Gangxxter
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Then those games were way overpriced since games were generally longer back then.
Today an 8 hour singleplayer experience at full price might be acceptable but IMHO a full price game must provide at least 15 hours of singleplayer fun.
Gully State
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So they've split the content into two episodes to release on time... Why are people upset?
I don't think people are, are they?
Sir_Crocodile
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Who is?
So, i've asked about the Vita version on twitter and they said it'll be released not long after the PC version.
thanks VitaBro!
Is it weird that this is my most anticipated game of the Year? Next gen can wait, it's all about George Stobbart! I can not wait for this, I need more George in my life. Those new screens are gorgeous, I'm so happy they have gone back to 2D, do we know if Nico and George are a thing? Or are they just friends, they didn't get back together at the end of 4, Anna Maria is no Nico Collard.
Messofanego
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"Thanks to your support, we have been able to be hugely ambitious – each episode is a full sized game in its own right."
That's...crazy!
That's...crazy!
I'm sorry, but what do you mean 'if'? You have to finish it by law, which part are you on by the way?
Gangxxter
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It's not weird at all, this is also my most anticipated game (probably of all time, only a new Crash Bandicoot by Naughty Dog could top this)!
Nah, George and Nico aren't a couple, but they are not "just" friends either. They are something in between. It's complicated
Messofanego
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I pledged for the boxed version which comes next year, but you also get steam/gog codes when the game's available for download in Dec
It's not weird at all, this is also my most anticipated game (probably of all time, only a new Crash Bandicoot by Naughty Dog could top this)!
Nah, George and Nico aren't a couple, but they are not "just" friends either. They are something in between. It's complicated
Glad it's not just me, I'll be getting a PS4 next year. For now I have a PS+ backlog to work through, The Last of Us platinum to attain, and Broken Sword 5. I haven't even played GTAV yet! I have lot's to do.
I hope they get back together, though it will probably last till the 2nd ep and they will have mysteriously split again. I wonder if they will follow strict tradition and use 2 different Nico actresses for each episode? lol
Gangxxter
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Since the voices have already been recorded it's VERY unlikely that we'll hear a different Nico in Episode 2^^
Besides that, it's in fact one giant game and not two separate games. Only in terms of size and content each episode is as large as a full sized game
They decided to go for a Christmas release as otherwise backers wouldn't have had anything this year.
The final retail release and the boxed Kickstarter versions will be a seamless experience with no artificial break or anything. So if you have any backlog, I would wait until January.
The mobile and DD versions will remain as separate episodes. Game is pretty lengthy for its price, especially when compared to TT adventures.
The final retail release and the boxed Kickstarter versions will be a seamless experience with no artificial break or anything. So if you have any backlog, I would wait until January.
The mobile and DD versions will remain as separate episodes. Game is pretty lengthy for its price, especially when compared to TT adventures.
Sir_Crocodile
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Have fun! (you won't).
Acquiescence
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Ain't that the truth.
TripleSun
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Heh, I'm not having fun with 3 so far, but I'm doing it for the series. ;_;
Green Yoshi
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I am really looking forward to this game. Though I'm not sure if splitting the game was a good idea.
Broken Sword 2 is one of my all-time favorites.
Broken Sword 2 is one of my all-time favorites.
I got game 4 as part of my pledge, so I might as well try it. It can't be too bad, right?
I'm glad for other people that the release (for Episode 1) is less than a month away, but I probably can't get around to playing this until I get my physical Special Edition in January/February next year. I'm trying to finish my master's thesis before Christmas and get my Master's Degree in January, so I won't have much time to play anything.
I also can't think of a point and click adventure game that's 15 hours long. Unless you were stuck for like 7 of those hours.
Squall ASF
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WAT? I missed the kickstarter somehow...thank you to all that supported this project! I can't believe there are two new releases I didn't know about! The one game I never got around to playing was 4 (didn't have a good enough PC at the time), did it contribute much to the story? I want to say most people didn't like it but I don't want to miss anything significant before starting 5.
TripleSun
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Same here. I love the traveling scenes in BS2. Replaying 1 now, but 2 is definitely my favorite.
Gangxxter
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Uhm, Broken Sword 1 Director's Cut? With those new gameplay scenes it's definitely 15 hours long on your first playthrough and getting stuck here and there without using a walkthrough.
The new scenes with Nico make up about 3 hours of gameplay, so the original BS is about 12 hours long.
BS 2 is somewhere between 8-10 hours.
It's always good to see people who'll buy the game after it's release because somehow Revolution needs to make profit with this game after all
All Broken Sword games don't tell a continuous story, each game has it's own story. You don't need to play any game before you can play any other game of the series. Revolution also said there is no real timeline of events, all games are happening "at the same time" somehow (obviously except for the first game, where Nico and George meet for the first time).
So you don't need to play BS4 in order to understand/enjoy BS5. But I would definitely go for it. I think the story and puzzles are better in BS4 than in BS3. On the other side, the presentation (atmosphere, characters [except for Brother Mark in BS4, one of my favourite character ever!], animations, facial expressions) is better in BS3.
My favourite BS is also BS2 (because it was my first Point&Click game ever and I played it on the PlayStation back in the day^^)
Squall ASF
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It's always good to see people who'll buy the game after it's release because somehow Revolution needs to make profit with this game after all
All Broken Sword games don't tell a continuous story, each game has it's own story. You don't need to play any game before you can play any other game of the series. Revolution also said there is no real timeline of events, all games are happening "at the same time" somehow (obviously except for the first game, where Nico and George meet for the first time).
So you don't need to play BS4 in order to understand/enjoy BS5. But I would definitely go for it. I think the story and puzzles are better in BS4 than in BS3. On the other side, the presentation (atmosphere, characters [except for Brother Mark in BS4, one of my favourite character ever!], animations, facial expressions) is better in BS3.
My favourite BS is also BS2 (because it was my first Point&Click game ever and I played it on the PlayStation back in the day^^)
Well yes, they have their own plot but George and Nico's relationship develops more through out the entries and there are occasionally a recurring character or two. I guess what I mean to ask is does BS4 develop their characters much more? Is there something that occurred between George and Nico that might carry into 5 I'd miss out on if I didn't play 4? I don't think I'll find the time to play it before 5 with PS4 and Zelda coming out but I should at least read up on the plot. I should see if it's on steam as well.
I still own the first three all on different platforms haha The first is my favorite and I found the GBA version to be superior to the PS1 version save for lacking cinemas. I also bought the Directors cut on the Wii. The second game was still great and I have it for PS1 and the third was a drop off from the other two but I still had fun with it and own it for the original Xbox. Basically that's a rant saying I love this series haha