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Buying an Xbox One now?
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James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Another one that thinks the launch is incredibly good. Color me amazingly surprised anyone could think that based on what we've seen so far.
BTW, has the recent reversal in stance on Microsoft's DRM (and hence, installing full games from the disc), changed your platform of choice for multiplats?
I may buy both consoles.
I do think it is very strange so much people have supported Sony like they are this huge pro-consumer company. Just google their history. Rootkits, proprietary disc formats to lock you into more expensive hardware (memory cards, minidiscs, etc), removing linux from ps3, it goes on and on. Sony isn't some great pro-consumer company, not by a long shot.
Now this doesn't mean you should support MS since they have back pedaled on their DRM. However the anti-MS posts are just incredible when people mention they are buying a PS4 because they don't like MS. Sony as a company isn't even the lesser of two evils, they just looked good saying they wouldn't have DRM and used it as a selling point. It was to make more money from the MS backlash and they latched onto it.
If you want to go all pro-consumer you really shouldn't support Sony nor Microsoft.
I do think it is very strange so much people have supported Sony like they are this huge pro-consumer company. Just google their history. Rootkits, proprietary disc formats to lock you into more expensive hardware (memory cards, minidiscs, etc), removing linux from ps3, it goes on and on. Sony isn't some great pro-consumer company, not by a long shot.
Now this doesn't mean you should support MS since they have back pedaled on their DRM. However the anti-MS posts are just incredible when people mention they are buying a PS4 because they don't like MS. Sony as a company isn't even the lesser of two evils, they just looked good saying they wouldn't have DRM and used it as a selling point. It was to make more money from the MS backlash and they latched onto it.
If you want to go all pro-consumer you really shouldn't support Sony nor Microsoft.
CoffeeGames
Member
Nope, not getting one.
Reasons
1) I'm cheap
2) I'm cheap
3) I don't like paying for online multiplayer
4) See #1 and #2
5) Milo
Reasons
1) I'm cheap
2) I'm cheap
3) I don't like paying for online multiplayer
4) See #1 and #2
5) Milo
For what its worth, I've also started to take a look at Amazons Top Wishlist Items.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/most-wished-for/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_tab_t_mw
This of course won't track sales, but it should give us an idea on general interest. Particularly since, presumably, scalpers are just buying stuff up rather than putting them on Wishlists.
Baron_Calamity
Member
I'm still not getting an Xbox One as a launch system. My experience with the 360 and Windows 8 for the most part soured me on getting another microsoft product. The pr launch nightmare just secured it. I wont rule out that I will never get one but it won't be for a few years.
I hope you have a Wii U because you'll have to pay for PS4 multiplayer too.
At least he gets free games on PlayStation so I guess he could try to ignore that fact. Personally I just don't play multiplayer enough to justify that ALONE, but as one feature of many? I think I can go with it.
Sony and SCE has changed their top level management. Microsoft still has Ballmer and Mattrick.
soulassssns
Banned
Yes, I'm back in for the 180. I was going to get the 180 and the PS4 at launch but the DRM shit made me go with just PS4. Now I'm already in PS4 only hype mode so MS will miss my launch money. I'll pick up a 180 sometime next year. I don't really give a shit why they changed their policies, all I see is "my new stuff is like my old stuff, awesome!". I get what I want so yay me.
Seems more like a 6 month farewell to the 360 specifically, rather than an intended ongoing promo. Though I guess it could be a trial run to see how many new subscribers they get, and if it shoots up significantly they'll keep at it.
And... yeah, that's actually why I've been looking to get an XBL subscription for cheap.
Please stop. You sound like a fanboy.
Anyone could say the same about the lackluster PS4 line up.
Killzone? A b tier shooter, that is rumoured to have brought back input lag.
Infamous, another b tier franchise that has changed its theme from lightning to smoke and fire?
knack? That couldn't have looked more meh.
Driveclub looks horribly underdeveloped, especially compared to Forza. I don't like Sims either way.
the rest are multiplats.
see how that works?
CoffeeGames
Member
I do.
I really don't like paying for online, and it's the reason I didn't get a 360. I'm just too cheap.
Pretty sure I played my WiiU online for free...
too much eslim
Member
they are lol. And with MS you can keep it if you stop using xbox live as opposed to PS+.
dragonbane
Member
Right, but why take the risk and waste $500 dollars on it like that? I don't have that much money to waste. I simply don't trust them anymore.
I will buy one some years down the line though, I can definitely wait for some games.
Mass Effect
Member
Only for the 360 so far. There has been no word from MS on if this will be available for the Xbone.
I do.
I really don't like paying for online, and it's the reason I didn't get a 360. I'm just too cheap.
To be fair, I suppose you could just stick to F2P games, as you won't need PS+ to play them online.
too much eslim
Member
Why it sound like people are in here trying to persuade people not to buy the new xbox? lol You guys really fight that good fight?
too much eslim
Member
oh really? lol MS sucks then. Eh no big deal to me then.
shinobi602
Member
Well, I'm not buying one right away, waiting until next holiday. PS4 is where I'm at this year.
Still, I'll be honest, I love the IPs Microsoft has (Halo, Gears, Forza, Killer Instinct looks great too). I can put aside $50 every so often from now and get one next year without even feeling it. I have no attachment to them though. If they pull this shit again, I'll cut my losses and bounce.
dragonbane
Member
THIS is the right attitude to have. I have zero problems with that. Wait and see what other games Sony has to announce and what happens after launch with both of them. If MS stays nice and after one year we'll maybe have a price drop and even more games (hopefully), I would be willing to buy one.
I just want to make sure that MS:
-doesn't introduce bullshit again
-lowers the price or improves Live to compete with Sony's pricing
-has a long term commitment to developing games and doesn't rely too much on second party like at E3 this year, because second party can disappear pretty fast
-shows many amazing games from their 1st party similar to Sony
If they can nail this, I'll buy one.
CoffeeGames
Member
I do have a Steam account, but for whatever reason enjoy console gaming more. I do have some PC games (want to play through The Walking Dead episodic series next), but not many with online multiplayer, and very rarely do I play them.
It's kind of ironic you mentioned it though, I thought about looking up the Steam Big Picture stuff again, earlier today! Thanks for helping me remember that.
Karak
Member
Sure. That is one of the things I was talking about. I pretty much hate them all even some companies that aren't even around anymore. Tracking the games is better than the companies because then you have to start making rules for everything to either explain your purchase of a system or your lack of one.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
I wouldn't label titles with a 91% and 85% metacritic "b-tier". But to each their own. I think there's a rather large gulf in quality between the likes of the new Killer Instinct and Ryse vs. the likes of Forza, Killzone, and InFamous, from what we've seen and hands on impressions at the booth.
You still didn't answer my question - what's fantastic about the Xbox One lineup? And are you still sticking with Xbox One for multiplats despite them performing worse? The only reason you said that you wanted to buy them on Xbox One was so you could install them from the disc...well that's gone now, doesn't seem like there's much if any advantages now.
I guess I get it to some point. Brand loyalty and all. Some people buy automobiles from one manufacturer, some people vote for a specific party in elections.
If Sony and MS had went the DRM path, it may have stuck. Then I think it would just open up an opportunity for another company to step in the console race if customers wanted something else. There are always choices.
In the end now to me it will come to games and overall enjoyment using the console. If I have more fun playing a specific console, that will be the one I buy multi-platform games for.
I will say that if the Sony PS4 came out with a bunch of features, that people in Japan would only really be able to enjoy and I could not use in the US. And the PS4 was 100 dollars more than the XB One, well I would probably get an XBOX One. I can see how people would feel the same about supporting the PS4 and it's price/features when the other costs don't justify.
If MS want kinect with every system so that developers can utilize it, fine. However make it an option to at least unplug the stupid thing for the tin foil hat crowd my goodness. How hard is it for MS to understand that? I still think having kinect on all the time to play the system will be optional.
I'm fairly certain Microsoft has said the Kinect can only be shut completely off when the console itself is completely off. If the Xbone is in sleep mode, so is the camera.
I believe they said its listening capabilities can be disabled in the menu, though they failed to explain why it still had to be connected in that case. Just more of Microsoft's recent inability to present a clear, concise vision. And they used to be so good at that shit.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
being able to turn your xbox on by saying "Xbox On" is not an option. it is a feature.
He clearly didn't see Titanfall.....
Anyways PS4 for me, I can get my dudebro fix on the PC and Xbone is all dudebro, so nothing looks to have changed. The Last of US on PS3 cements my thoughts that MS have no fucking clue when it comes to taking a little risk and providing stuff gamers may not expect and don't actually know they want until they see it.
Crash Station
Member
I see Gamefaqs put up a poll. I know it's early and the site doesn't represent everyone, but consensus around the internet still seems to be no buy.
The Spoony Hou
Member
I'm lost at all this. So MS backtracked on their DRM BS, it seems... I'm guessing we will go back to needing the disc to play the games. I hope we can still install them in the HDD.
Let me preface this buy saying I'm not an FPS, online multiplayer kind of guy, so I wouldn't have gotten one anyway.
Having said that, no. I find it equally insulting to the people who supported MS in this matter that they seemingly broke down so easily to internet peer pressure and flipped the switch Nelson said they couldn't just flip.
I also find it super weird when people who say they weren't going to buy one before just forgive all and expect nothing to come of this down the line. Anyone who thinks the used game battle is over on either platform is delusional, it'll be back, and probably worse than what MS was offering up.
Meanwhile, they won't pony up a worthwhile f'n Start Button for Windows 8.
Having said that, no. I find it equally insulting to the people who supported MS in this matter that they seemingly broke down so easily to internet peer pressure and flipped the switch Nelson said they couldn't just flip.
I also find it super weird when people who say they weren't going to buy one before just forgive all and expect nothing to come of this down the line. Anyone who thinks the used game battle is over on either platform is delusional, it'll be back, and probably worse than what MS was offering up.
Meanwhile, they won't pony up a worthwhile f'n Start Button for Windows 8.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
People jumping into a XBONE day one without waiting to see what in the world MS is going to do with the console are nuts to me.
Pretty much this. mS can always turn this around. That's the scary part and they'll do it too.
cleveridea
Member
for me I already committed to PS4 since at the time preorders went live, the DRM meant I couldnt even consider getting a xbone EVER.
since that time, I have come to realize that xbox one actually has some really interesting unique games and concepts coming out, like the news of Dead Rising/Ryse with Kinect and Smartglass integration.
Now its too late, I already pre-ordered PS4 from 2 different places to ensure I get one day one. And I cant justify another $500 on top of an already existing $400.
since that time, I have come to realize that xbox one actually has some really interesting unique games and concepts coming out, like the news of Dead Rising/Ryse with Kinect and Smartglass integration.
Now its too late, I already pre-ordered PS4 from 2 different places to ensure I get one day one. And I cant justify another $500 on top of an already existing $400.
statham
Member
YOLO.
Uno Venova
Banned
The impression that I'm getting is it's not a huge turnaround or anything. People were already pushed to the PS4, which is the same next gen console for cheaper. It's probably going to be tough to get people to convert back for an extra buck.
LastChance2Frag
Neo Member
Have amazon.com updated there site for Xbox One release date to November 27 2013 - did it always say that?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
but are apparantly willing to get fucked over multiple times.
fatty
Member
Yeah, after MS initially made that DRM decision I was not going to get one. Now, I might a couple of price drops down the line after I am able to see how this progresses with the DRM situation. From what I can tell, after I connect the Xbox One to the internet that first time, I shouldn't have to rely on them anymore (I'm thinking far into the future because I still use my SNES), but we'll see...