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Californians: Northern or Southern California?

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thezerofire said:
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NorNorCal (bumfucknowhere) represent!
 
I'm not from California but I always thought that San Francisco was considered part of central California (from looking at a map). It's slightly north of the center but it is still more centrally located then north IMO. I would consider Sacremento and parts north to be NorCal, but again I'm not from California so what do I know? If San Francisco is NorCal, what is considered central Cal?

Edit: Oh, so I see there is SoCal, MidCal, NorCal, and NorNorCal (aka bum fuck nowhere).

Having said that, if I had the money I would move to NorCal. Beautiful place.
 
The Bay area out to Sac has pockets of bad, but generally are nice and livable. Outside of that things gets sketchy and the nice things become less and harder to find.

Kod1ak said:
Is the cost of living completely out of whack in all of CA or just parts? I've always loved the geography of CA and would love to move there, but the cost of living scares the hell out of me.
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I would say cost of living is out of whack all over CA, especially in the nicer parts, the parts you'd want to live in. The NorCal valley is more affordable than the Bay area and SoCal.

In California it's split up into North, South and the Central Valley. Usually when people talk about the Central Valley they're talking NorCal. That's because the Central Valley is more AG, and the AG industry is more a NorCal thing. I've never heard MidCal or CenterCal.
 
Lived on the east coast for 20 years, NorCal for 2 years, now in my second year in SoCal.

NorCal > SoCal >>>>>>>>>>> east coast.
 
NorCal, born and raised in SF, and now an East Bay resident. Love Cali, as a whole, and prefer NorCal, myself. But, I love SoCal, too. It's like 2 different states, and preferences will vary, obviously. NorCal has an amazing variety of natural scenery. It's also a leading source of technology and medicine. San Francisco, itself, is simply an amazing city, with so much culture and diversity. We have great food, including the most revered restaurant in the U.S., The French Laundry.

SoCal has great coastal weather, and beautiful woman, everywhere. It also has great diversity. It's always a great time, when I visit and hang out with my friends and family, down there. But NorCal is home, and I love it, here.

XiaNaphryz said:
1) Goldilocks is a chain - they're not a SoCal thing.

And 2) I think all Filipino restaurants in Cali are shit. Nothing compares to homemade. I'm likely biased since its what I grew up with (and Filipino food in particular can vary widely in recipes even for the same dish), but outside of maybe breakfast there's nothing I'd be tempted to go to a restaurant for.
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Yeah, Goldilocks, Manila Sunset, Jollibees, Red Ribbon, are all the fast food equivalent for Filipino food. But, at least the food is consistent. So, if someone likes a dish at Goldilocks, for example, they can be pretty sure that dish will taste the same at a different Goldilocks. Like you said, different people cooking the same homemade dish, will make their dishes differently. Of course, most people's palettes will prefer whatever they grew up, with.

One of my favorite Filipino restaurants though, in the Bay Area, is Kuya's Asian Cuisine, in San Bruno. I like a lot of their dishes, but their beef sisig is my favorite. Give me a plate of that and some steamed rice, and I'm good. And, I always end with some bobo chacha. So good!

http://www.yelp.com/biz/kuyas-asian-cuisine-san-bruno

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Baron Aloha said:
I'm not from California but I always thought that San Francisco was considered part of central California (from looking at a map). It's slightly north of the center but it is still more centrally located then north IMO. I would consider Sacremento and parts north to be NorCal, but again I'm not from California so what do I know? If San Francisco is NorCal, what is considered central Cal?

Edit: Oh, so I see there is SoCal, MidCal, NorCal, and NorNorCal (aka bum fuck nowhere).

Having said that, if I had the money I would move to NorCal. Beautiful place.
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It isn't really a straight geographic divide.

There are two giant clusters of cities in the state: one in the south that includes LA, San Diego and everything in between (and up to Oxnard/Ventura/Santa Barbara), and one in the north, which includes San Francisco, Sacramento, San Jose and everything around.

Everything north of Santa Barbara and south of Salinas is mid-Cal. Everything north of the major NorCal cities is bumfuck nowhere.
 
Curious, why was Florida being argued in this thread? A mistake from a picture?
 
Parallax said:
Curious, why was Florida being argued in this thread? A mistake from a picture?
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SoCal needing to use a picture of Florida to depict a good time, and an ignorant Californian making the claim that swimming in frigid water is something normal people enjoy. Go join the polar bear club.
 
etiolate said:
Did midcal get created just because nobody wants to be associated with Fresno?
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The original picture made it clear that Fresno is in the same region as SF, which is typically referred to as the midwest by locals.

Just look straight west. Fresno is NORTH of Monterey, which is indisputably in the bay area sphere of influence.

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should be westcal, midcal, and eastcal. westcal can have san francisco, los angeles, and san diego. midcal can have stockton, riverside, and fresno. eastcal can have the border towns and cannibal huts.
 
I was born and raised in Stockton so NorCal for me. But if the middle of Cali is considered Norcal then what's all that land above Sacramento called?
 
jamesinclair said:
The original picture made it clear that Fresno is in the same region as SF, which is typically referred to as the midwest by locals.

Just look straight west. Fresno is NORTH of Monterey, which is indisputably in the bay area sphere of influence.

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Nobody calls it the midwest.


It's the inland middle that is midcal or methcal. In a modern sense, the sections are identified by traffic flow. The I-5 stretch that is metland and barren between the edge of the bay area and down into suburban Socal is midcal. The coastal areas are different and live off of different freeway traffic.
 
Lots of shitty maps being posted in here... here are the facts: Northern California and Southern California are two of the 11 Emerging Megaregions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_California:
Central California is "a sub-region within Northern California." This includes Central Valley towns like Fresno and Hanford/Visalia that much of the rest of NorCal considers to be part of SoCal.
The region north of Sacramento is called Northstate by locals, or more recently Upstate California, the northern part of which is included in the Jefferson proposed state and even the Cascadia independence movement.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_California:

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SoCal has Bakersfield, SoCal loses.
 
Lived in both and would say NorCal. Has somewhat of a four seasons and isn't just "summer" all the time.

Only place I would go back to in SoCal is The Whales Vagina, or for the Spainards, San Diego. Really liked the area there, unless it started to drizzle, then everyone on the road panicked and acted like a blizzard had hit.
 
Lived in Socal all my life and I'd vote for Norcal. San Francisco is the superior city. Socal has better weather and great beaches, but that's about all. The girls are hotter down here, but not usually my type.
 
Another thing in NorCal's favor: I've never once heard SF or any other city up there mentioned in a "Worst Drivers" list. The big ones are always NYC, Boston, and LA. In my experience, the NY and Boston bad drivers are aggressive and rude. Whereas the bad drivers we have in LA are simply clueless, oblivious morons.
 
The real division is Bakersfield. South of that is sureño territory aka socal. North is norteño territory aka norcal. It's not about symmetrical split you fools.
 
From Los Angeles here, hoping to move to NorCal some day to try living there.

I've only visited once but the more I learn about the city the more I think I want to live there, amazing food, farmers markets, and people.

I mean we got great food down here but a lot of it is pretentious as well and the people here are just bleh.
 
Muffdraul said:
Another thing in NorCal's favor: I've never once heard SF or any other city up there mentioned in a "Worst Drivers" list. The big ones are always NYC, Boston, and LA. In my experience, the NY and Boston bad drivers are aggressive and rude. Whereas the bad drivers we have in LA are simply clueless, oblivious morons.
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SF drivers make me want to kill people. They are definitely in the oblivious camp.
 
Its funny, I work for a company that has offices in both SF, and LA. I have never met anyone from SF who liked it here in LA, and vice versa. Anyone from LA who went up north hated it.

It is what it is. They both have their upsides and downsides.
 
I live in San Diego and I went to College in Northern California. Where ever you go, don't go to Eureka.
Edit: Or Bakersfield, Merced, Modesto, Stockton, Fresno, Oakland, Temecula, and all places like that.
 
George Claw M.D. said:
Yeah, Goldilocks, Manila Sunset, Jollibees, Red Ribbon, are all the fast food equivalent for Filipino food. But, at least the food is consistent. So, if someone likes a dish at Goldilocks, for example, they can be pretty sure that dish will taste the same at a different Goldilocks. Like you said, different people cooking the same homemade dish, will make their dishes differently. Of course, most people's palettes will prefer whatever they grew up, with.

One of my favorite Filipino restaurants though, in the Bay Area, is Kuya's Asian Cuisine, in San Bruno. I like a lot of their dishes, but their beef sisig is my favorite. Give me a plate of that and some steamed rice, and I'm good. And, I always end with some bobo chacha. So good!
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Pork Adobo is shit at all Filipino chains I have been to. Or maybe the recipe my mom makes is shit, and I continue to like it. Go Samar adobo.

O yea, SoCal > NorCal :) Though I like both. Go Chargers.
 
The girls in NorCal are hideous.

EC has a monopoly on all the beautiful black, latina, asian, indian and white girls :>


Also your sports teams are ass
 
Born and raised in San Clemente, miss it every day.

I've got family up in NorCal too, but it's a whole different world. Redwoods and sequoias are gorgeous, the word "hecka" can drive you insane, SF people were a mixed bag of snotty or fun, and Davis has lots of nice hippies.

Can someone confirm/deny if Berkeley is actually a freaky place to be alone at night? You always hear rumors...
 
We're all one state... can we help it if all the east coast transplants continually move to both LA and SF, then whine continually about the region they didn't move to?
 
Central Coast represent. Ventura is a little slice of heaven. Close to the beach, not crowded, low asshole concentration, still close to SoCal if need be. Never moving back to the big city (much to the disappointment of my wife).
 
jamesinclair said:
The original picture made it clear that Fresno is in the same region as SF, which is typically referred to as the midwest by locals.

Just look straight west. Fresno is NORTH of Monterey, which is indisputably in the bay area sphere of influence.

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driving to so cal from the central valley, i think bakersfield fits in more with the central california image of farmland and shitty hot summers. i propose the grapevine/tejon pass as the border of so cal and central cal. bakersfield you're central cal
 
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