Yes but I think even Xbox sales are falling a bit.
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Call of Duty is essentially dead on PC right now
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Yes but I think even Xbox sales are falling a bit.
SneakyStephan
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snakeoil salesmen
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Can this be used in this context?
I'm glad that cod has lost most of it's popularity on pc (and hopefully is losing it on consoles too)
Now other developers can stop copying its awful ideas (like ADS, p2p connections, matchmaking, unlock grinding, ultra low skill ceiling and low ttk) and it might force activision and their developers to try harder with their future games for the people who like COD
The Incarnation
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Regret buying ghosts. Tired of spending an age unlocking shit and leveling up. I'd wager that's one of the reasons COD 4 is still popular. For a pick up and play game it's labour intensive, with little payoff.
EatinOlives
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With how misleading that picture was (Steam always puts those in-game/online at the front of the page and there were only a handful there), I'm surprised and disappointed at how popular that damn screencap was. People just took up to spamming that thing when anyone even started criticizing any of Treyarch's/IW's/Activision's bullshit.
BibiMaghoo
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It's because the new CSGO crates are out, and everyone is playing furiously to try and cash in on it. New crates are going for over £4 each 
Caffeine
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sledgehammer and lawsuit damaged iw both worked on both portions of mw3 together basically as 1 studio and the game was completed in a very fast amount of time ~20 months or so because of it if it wasnt for sledgehammer it would have been in a worse state probably with how ghosts is now and mw3 wasn't bad on pc only the hacking ruined it.
Dash Kappei
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Destiny has been finally confirmed to have a PC port then?
Crimsonclaw111
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1) shit ports
2) shit support from Activision
3) shit prices (Modern Warfare is still $15, on sale!? wtf)
It's no reason nobody really cares for COD on PC anymore. That, coupled with the DLC and yearly release schedule, gives nobody a reson to buy it any time other than day 1 (you won't be able to sell your copy back for the new COD).
2) shit support from Activision
3) shit prices (Modern Warfare is still $15, on sale!? wtf)
It's no reason nobody really cares for COD on PC anymore. That, coupled with the DLC and yearly release schedule, gives nobody a reson to buy it any time other than day 1 (you won't be able to sell your copy back for the new COD).
Lol. It doesn't take long to reach max level at all. Why do you think people prestige?
The Incarnation
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Takes long enough. Not going to sit around playing for 3 hours a day to do that. Work nearly ten hours a day. Don't need to come home and work at a mere game just to unlock a few things.
Orthogonal
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Price is the magic factor to rehabilitate a franchise image even in the face of some technical issues in the ports.
Old COD games are still obscenely overpriced. If Activision wants to move the needle, a franchise pack of all COD games for less than 20 bucks would do the trick and a la carte for 5 to 10 on the older ones.
Old COD games are still obscenely overpriced. If Activision wants to move the needle, a franchise pack of all COD games for less than 20 bucks would do the trick and a la carte for 5 to 10 on the older ones.
The Summer Sale 2010 Call of Duty pack (with 1, 2, UO, MW1, WaW, this being the summer after MW2 released) on sale for $30 was the only truly awesome Call of Duty sale that I can recall. As a casual player of the games I loved that and hoped for similar deals in the future (it was also my first big Steam sale). I'd love to play the games after that, but not at the prices they've considered to be sales. Activision has never really embraced the digital marketplace, so seeing the franchise be so surpassed doesn't surprise me.
I discussed this earlier in the thread, but I think one of the issues with reducing the price on Call of Duty is the mechanical similarities between the series.
If they offer CoD4 or MW2 for $2.50, then a potential customer will just pick those up and get a similar experience to the newer games.
Especially considering something like MW1 and BOII are still well populated with players, even more so then the latest iteration.
Keeping them ridiculously priced may reduce these purchases to a degree. After all, why would you spend $10-$15 on a 5 year old game, when you can grab the latest iteration for $25-$30?
I just want a shooter to drop that is similar to Halo or UT
High TTK, no ADS, good weapon balance, starting gear is always the same with equal access to good weapons, fast-paced.
TakeItSlowDude
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-COD has been designed around consoles post COD4: low recoil weapons, low ttk, matchmaking/no server browser, over reliance on ADS/poor hipfire, ect. A lot of these things hold back the game on PC, but on console these mechanics are exactly what makes the game feel right.
-Activision soured a lot of PC players with IWNET, $15 map packs, shutting out mods since MW2.
-Poor options on the PC ports, lack of basic things like FOV sliders. Lack of graphical enhancements on the PC vs console versions.
-It is not competitively priced on the PC. Seems like PC COD is priced relative to the console COD, when it should priced relative to other PC fps.
Activision needs a small dedicated team that handles the PC ports of COD and that rebalances the game for PC. ADS, low recoil, and high damage weapons make sense on consoles were ones ability to aim is seriously hindered. Just making the guns take 1 or 2 bullets more, having 1.x multiplier to recoil relative to consoles, and moving hip fire away from random cone to recoils patterns would make the game much better on PC.
-Activision soured a lot of PC players with IWNET, $15 map packs, shutting out mods since MW2.
-Poor options on the PC ports, lack of basic things like FOV sliders. Lack of graphical enhancements on the PC vs console versions.
-It is not competitively priced on the PC. Seems like PC COD is priced relative to the console COD, when it should priced relative to other PC fps.
Activision needs a small dedicated team that handles the PC ports of COD and that rebalances the game for PC. ADS, low recoil, and high damage weapons make sense on consoles were ones ability to aim is seriously hindered. Just making the guns take 1 or 2 bullets more, having 1.x multiplier to recoil relative to consoles, and moving hip fire away from random cone to recoils patterns would make the game much better on PC.
SargerusBR
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Dark Souls II so high on that list bring a tear to my eye :')
The Crimson Beast
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game is full of hackers and game ran like crap for months I'm not surprised. I regret buying it.
old manatee
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There are so many better, cheaper shooters on steam.
licktheenvelope
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Best modding community there is. The talent some people have out there is ridiculous.
You can thank the modding community for that. They've made that game far better than the product that shipped on day one. It'll probably be around for a decade or more if the next game doesn't completely outclass it in every area.
I bought it (on ps4) and played a few matches and never played the mp again. Sp was decent. They could fix alot of the things wrong with it by adding more players to fill in those huge maps and tweaking the damage. Maps are so big and people drop do fast that naturally they would camp. Its no fun imo.
speculawyer
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Great OP. Cod Is more of a console game now I guess.
I believe BF4 was peaking around 120-130K at launch.
LQX
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Activision never really providing discounts on PC for CODs main game and especially the DLC did much to kill it. You cant get new users in if your 2-3 year old version is selling for nearly the same price as the latest release. More-over MW2 not having dedicated servers I think had a huge impact on the PC versions being seen as less than, even though they brought it back with Ops. The damage was done.
The weirdest thing is how inconsistently the regional pricing is applied. Currently the nominal prices in Australia are:
MW1 - $49.99
WAW - $39.99
MW2 - $89.99
BO1 - $89.99
MW3 - $39.99
BO2 - $89.99
Gho - $89.99
What's up with MW3? Did they decide to start dropping the prices and then just forget? Did they decide that MW3 was the worst? I don't get it!
grosvenor_92
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I imagine this will only continue even if the next COD is actually good. The series on PC is pretty much on it's last legs so I won't be surprised if Activision just releases future ones on console
Planetside currently oscillates between about 2500 and 4500 (EDIT: per faction)
http://sirisian.com/planetside2/population.php?world=all&timezone=8&allfactions=false
Black Ops was riddled with performance issues (that persist with the single player client to this day) for a good part of the first few months. I should know, we did montages back then and trying to squeeze a decent framerate out of acceptable montage graphic settings, even at 0.1 speed, was agonizing.
It was a big part of the reason why we were so pleasantly surprised that BO2 ran SO WELL on PC. Like, smooth as butter, better-than-IW good.
(Referring only to the technical side, of course. This isn't an opinion piece on map/gameplay design)
It was rubbish since it was a public group of 800 and 20 people were playing.
It will have a daily discount tomorrow.
DigitalDevilSummoner
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Holy shit 700's a low number ! Slightly off topic / anyone else thinks the multiplayer paywall is partially to blame for this -considering the game despite criticism sold well ?
More like CoD and BF4 happened. People probably bought the game at launch to see the single player and then went into multiplayer, saw it wasn't really up to par with what they expect from games like CoD and BF4 and waited for those games to play on multiplayer.
No the terrible game is to blame
the_topher
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Don't even think about trying to play a game mode that isn't Team Deathmatch. There is literally no one in some of the other game modes. Like 0 people no one. So irritating.
DigitalDevilSummoner
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I do also agree with that. It's just that in the thread discussing whether Sony would allow multiplayer to go free again, I tried to argue that the paywall was invented to monetize on mainstream games that already had a solid online community. Meaning every game not called CoD would have their multiplayer stifled on consoles.
Still, for a million+ seller praised mostly for its multiplayer, 700 is just silly.
toastyToast
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Deep discounts? Hey I always wanted to play MW2, I actually quite liked the MW1 campai--
Oh, nevermind.
I think I got it for $5 from Amazon at some point
The MP feeling super clunky and having a poor framerate also makes a horrible first impression. I imagine there was a bunch of people trying it and immediately going "NOPE".
I dont play online PC games at all but seeing that there is no Battlefield 4 in that list sorta makes me want to ask you PC online gamers this. If Battlefrield 4 had been polished and nearly bug free (no game is bug free) but if it were a damn solid in online performance....would Battlefield 4 be in this chart right now at this stage?
Just a curious question to you PC gamers that play online games all the time. Like i said i have ZERO clue to whats hot in the PC online gaming scene these days. I do a lot of gaming on my PC but its all single player stuff.
EDIT: Im stupid...i forgot its an Origin game duh!!!
Just a curious question to you PC gamers that play online games all the time. Like i said i have ZERO clue to whats hot in the PC online gaming scene these days. I do a lot of gaming on my PC but its all single player stuff.
EDIT: Im stupid...i forgot its an Origin game duh!!!
I believe the concurrent numbers range from 30,000-50,000 for BF4 on PC right now, so it would be quite high up there on the chart comparatively.
I would imagine being on Steam would increase the exposure of the game as well, selling more copies, but we can pretend all things are equal for this discussion.
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