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marrec said:
Man... I don't know why but that really makes me want to start doing Yoga.

*lol*

I can get all my fingers on the floor, but palms down would make my snap in two.
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Do a couple of sun salutations every day and you'll notice a huge difference.
 
H.Protagonist said:
And, shira, is your job something along those lines too or did you just do cheerleading in school? (I did not, but I was the mascot in middle school, so I blame that.)
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Nope. Hospital by day, coach by night.

Wow, GAF legend HPro relegated to mascot. Mindblown. Who were these girls in your school - was it like Bring It On?


Do a couple of sun salutations every day and you'll notice a huge difference.
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Commercial yoga doesn't work. It's all bastardized and commercially produced for mass market consumption - like martial arts in the west. Do you think Bruce Lee's kungfu is the same kungfu as you learn at your local dojo? Do you think the yoga studio downtown is the same yoga that actual yogis do.
 
shira said:
Commercial yoga doesn't work. It's all bastardized and commercially produced for mass market consumption - like martial arts in the west. Do you think Bruce Lee's kungfu is the same kungfu as you learn at your local dojo? Do you think the yoga studio downtown is the same yoga that actual yogis do.
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Define "doesn't work."
 
lennedsay said:
Define "doesn't work."
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If you do a yoga routine you are most probably reinforcing whatever muscle movements you normally use. Unless you have an elite level yogi to guide you it is highly unlikely that you will get anything from it. Commerical yoga is perfectly marketed for young girls, college kids, and moms.

If you live in Canada you know Lululemon. Amazing marketing, nothing to do with yoga. I think the new trend here is hot yoga. Seriously?
 
I've always been naturally flexible, so I can easily touch my toes and beyond. I can palm the floor, put my head between my legs standing up... etc.

I'm 6'1'' and 190 pounds, if that matters.
 
shira said:
Nope. Hospital by day, coach by night.

Wow, GAF legend HPro relegated to mascot. Mindblown. Who were these girls in your school - was it like Bring It On?




Commercial yoga doesn't work. It's all bastardized and commercially produced for mass market consumption - like martial arts in the west. Do you think Bruce Lee's kungfu is the same kungfu as you learn at your local dojo? Do you think the yoga studio downtown is the same yoga that actual yogis do.
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Oh, what kind of coach? Sounds like you're getting the best of both the working world and the satisfying sports/physical stuff. And, GAF legend? Haha. For what, balancing bottles (and bears) on my head? I'm sure any real fame will come when I do that face dive into the curb trying to perform a drunk scorpion. ;D As for the mascot thing, it was a compromise between hating the cheerleaders at my school, yet yearning to do handsprings during halftime. Those girls were, indeed, very bitchy.
 
Somebody asked me this the other day.

I did it no problem. They were surprised.

I wasn't aware this was such a difficult task. I don't even work out. :/
 
shira said:
If you do a yoga routine you are most probably reinforcing whatever muscle movements you normally use. Unless you have an elite level yogi to guide you it is highly unlikely that you will get anything from it. Commerical yoga is perfectly marketed for young girls, college kids, and moms.

If you live in Canada you know Lululemon. Amazing marketing, nothing to do with yoga. I think the new trend here is hot yoga. Seriously?
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As someone with fibromyalgia, I can barely walk unless I stretch daily, relying primarily on various asanas. If I take a break, even for a week or less, I'm back to square one.

Regardless of how "commercial" or "mainstream" it is, modern yoga has been extremely helpful to me for the last 8-9 years. I'm in the US, so maybe the trend/fad stigma has worn off since it's been around here for so long in its current state. (Shit, my parents were into it back in the 70s.) Can't say I or my doctors would agree that it "doesn't work."
 
H.Protagonist said:
Oh, what kind of coach? Sounds like you're getting the best of both the working world and the satisfying sports/physical stuff. And, GAF legend? Haha. For what, balancing bottles (and bears) on my head? As for the mascot thing, it was compromise between hating the cheerleaders at my school, yet yearning to do handsprings during halftime. ;D Those girls were, indeed, very bitchy.
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Oh please, normal tag, owns several threads, knows Evilore on a first name basis, is actually in the gaming industry. That's pretty legendary.

Little kids + anything & everything. There is something about teaching kids to read & write - but teaching kids how to run, breathe, do the splits. Totally awesome in a different way; they remember that stuff for life.

lennedsay said:
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Sorry to hear that, we see lots of fibromyalgia patients - but you know that it is idiopathic and not well understood. A definite gray area in medicine. But the question is are you stretching or relaxing? If you can control your trigger points it does a lot more than stretching. So it comes down to efficiency and what you do with your time.
 
SteveWinwood said:
Someone give me hamstring exercises to do please.
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The hamstrings are difficult to stretch because they're difficult to isolate. You'll need to do several stretches in a certain order to relax your other leg muscles first. You're probably better of buying a decent book on the topic. You'll want proper diagrams.

shira said:
If you live in Canada you know Lululemon. Amazing marketing, nothing to do with yoga. I think the new trend here is hot yoga. Seriously?
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Lululemon is a clothing company. They don't teach yoga.
 
shira said:
Oh please, normal tag, owns several threads, knows Evilore on a first name basis, is actually in the gaming industry. That's pretty legendary.

Little kids + anything & everything. There is something about teaching kids to read & write - but teaching kids how to run, breathe, do the splits. Totally awesome in a different way; they remember that stuff for life.


Sorry to hear that, we see lots of fibromyalgia patients - but you know that it is idiopathic and not well understood. A definite gray area in medicine. But the question is are you stretching or relaxing? If you can control your trigger points it does a lot more than stretching. So it comes down to efficiency and what you do with your time.
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Wow. That does sounds extremely satisfying/cool. How long have you been doing it? Kids are info sponges, and it's a joy to see them absorb knowledge (I was an ESL teacher for a couple of years). Really makes it feel like you're making a difference in the world when you educate the ankle-biters.

And, my tag is to be up front about my job, plus it's mah shield against stuff like a "golden frying pan" subtitle. :D
 
Popstar said:
Lululemon is a clothing company. They don't teach yoga.
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In my city they do demos at the stores and basically are in bed with all the yoga studios to sell gear. It is a social thing, you wear the gear and it propagates the cycle. Nobody stops to ask the question if commercial yoga actually works, but it is a 24/7 commercial because there is a lulu logo on every girl's butt in town. Boom multi-million dollar industry built on a lie.

H.Protagonist said:
Wow. That does sounds extremely satisfying/cool. How long have you been doing it? Kids are info sponges, and it's a joy to see them absorb knowledge (I was an ESL teacher for a couple of years). Really makes it feel like you're making a difference in the world when you educate the ankle-biters.

And, my tag is to be up front about my job, plus it's mah shield against stuff like a "golden frying pan" subtitle. :D
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Trade you?
 
shira said:
In my city they do demos at the stores and basically are in bed with all the yoga studios to sell gear. It is a social thing, you wear the gear and it propagates the cycle. Nobody stops to ask the question if commercial yoga actually works, but it is a 24/7 commercial because there is a lulu logo on every girl's butt.
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Ah, okay. I'm in Vancouver where they started and I remember their original small shop upstairs on 4th Ave. It doesn't really register with me how big they've gotten despite knowing how much they've expanded.
 
PounchEnvy said:
How do you palm the floor? I want to try this out.
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Bend over with your legs straight. Try and touch your toes with your fingertips.

Where you able to touch your toes? If so, try and put your palms flat on the ground while still keeping your legs straight.

Where you able to that? Awesome! No cross your arms like a genie and touch your elbows to the floor while keeping your legs straight.
 
Popstar said:
Bend over with your legs straight. Try and touch your toes with your fingertips.

Where you able to touch your toes? If so, try and put your palms flat on the ground while still keeping your legs straight.

Where you able to that? Awesome! No cross your arms like a genie and touch your elbows to the floor while keeping your legs straight.
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I can't do the third. :(
...Yet! Challenge accepted.
 
Why the hell do I keep seeing the thread title as "Can I see your toes?"

And yes I can touch my toes. Can't do the rest.
 
shira said:
In my city they do demos at the stores and basically are in bed with all the yoga studios to sell gear. It is a social thing, you wear the gear and it propagates the cycle. Nobody stops to ask the question if commercial yoga actually works, but it is a 24/7 commercial because there is a lulu logo on every girl's butt in town. Boom multi-million dollar industry built on a lie.


Trade you?
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Not feelin' your day job, or just a desire to work in the gaming industry?
 
Just turned 40, I'm about 50 pounds overweight (230 I think) and I can still put my palms on the floor straightlegged. Never had any gymnastics but when I was younger I could put my legs into the lotus position without using my hands. Might still be able to but part of those rubber legs led to poor ACL support and eventual tears I have never had fixed... so I don't really try anymore. I don't recall whether I used my hands to get my legs behind my head. I think I could do that without hands as well.
 
I have terrible lower body flexibility for whatever reason. Have trained for years, but can only barely touch my toes, and it's really easy for me to strain my hip flexors when I do squats.
 
H.Protagonist said:
Not feelin' your day job, or just a desire to work in the gaming industry?
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No, I love my job but I always dream that somewhere deep down - the gaming industry is Willy Wonka's factory with geniuses churning out Zelda's and Mario's. But then reality hits and its probably a bunch of smelly guys in cubicles crunching 18 hour shifts and debating the meaning of japanese honorifics. Sigh, maybe for a day.

EviLore said:
I have terrible lower body flexibility for whatever reason. Have trained for years, but can only barely touch my toes, and it's really easy for me to strain my hip flexors when I do squats.
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Relax Big Boss; it's muscle control.
 
Dr Eggman said:
i'll eat some reeses instead.
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You're not playing the game right, Eggman!


Mission said:
Just turned 40, I'm about 50 pounds overweight (230 I think) and I can still put my palms on the floor straightlegged. Never had any gymnastics but when I was younger I could put my legs into the lotus position without using my hands. Might still be able to but part of those rubber legs led to poor ACL support and eventual tears I have never had fixed... so I don't really try anymore. I don't recall whether I used my hands to get my legs behind my head. I think I could do that without hands as well.
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Maybe you missed your calling as an olympic athlete? Or as Gumby?

EviLore said:
I have terrible lower body flexibility for whatever reason. Have trained for years, but can only barely touch my toes, and it's really easy for me to strain my hip flexors when I do squats.
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A weakness!
 
shira said:
No, I love my job but I always dream that somewhere deep down - the gaming industry is Willy Wonka's factory with geniuses churning out Zelda's and Mario's. But then reality hits and its probably a bunch of smelly guys in cubicles crunching 18 hour shifts and debating the meaning of japanese honorifics. Sigh, maybe for a day.


Relax Big Boss; it's muscle control.
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Haha. It can be a land of wonder... and horror. O_O
I keed you not. Not at all.

Reality is somewhere in between, though. There is lots of the dreaded crunch time and yes, the translator and I endlessly debate various English/localization quirks, but I assure you that we have fantastic hygiene, bodies (we have a pull up bar!) and our company is very nearly 50% female! You could always take up gaming reporting/reviewing/journalism if you wanted a taste of the industry? That's one of the more accessible routes.
 
shira said:
Unless you have an elite level yogi to guide you it is highly unlikely that you will get anything from it.
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There is quality literature and instructional video out there based on traditional teachings (the works of David Swenson and Rodney Yee to name a few), let alone the broad brush of a local studio. You don't have to travel to Mysore seeking out some guru to learn and enjoy a fulfilling practice. Some commercial yoga may be dumbed down but that simply means doing your research before diving in.

I practice ashtanga and although things like flexibility and core strength ever improve, being able to step on my palms is the least of it. Yoga, union, is meditation. It cultivates awareness, no matter what physical condition you're in. The physical improvements are a happy byproduct.
 
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