here's a gif of that spider sense moment we were talking about earlier
Not enough "wooosh" *time freeze* "wooooooosh"
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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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Not enough "wooosh" *time freeze* "wooooooosh"
Zemo's plan isn't any flimsier than TDK Joker's.
I don't remember him mentioning any bigger plan than this, especially since he was resigned to suicide.
He didn't said it; law-enforcement-guy-who-plays-Watson said to him something like "your plan failed!" and he grinned and answered "did it?"
He succeded at something that is still in motion, but we don't know what.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Yeah he didn't say that, what he said was "did it? *wink wink wink*" when the other dude interrogating him said that his plan had failed.
You could take it to mean that it did succeed coz half the avengers went underground in wakanda. Or you could take it to mean there was a secret other plan.
BronsonLee
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Nah, his plan was to make the people who killed his family feel grief. It grew as the movie went on.
He knew that Tony's parents were murdered through the SHIELD files, so he dug deeper, finds out it's Bucky. UN bomb brings him back into play. Cap's relationship with Bucky is public knowledge.
If they catch Bucky, Zemo delivers tape, that's the end of it. It kept growing because of the in-fighting. It basically allowed the little troll to keep fucking with people.
Nah, he gets asked if it was all worth it to have his plan fail. His plan clearly didn't fail at all.
here's a gif of that spider sense moment we were talking about earlier
The eyes man. So good.
BronsonLee
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If he was a one and done he would've shot himself right in the head while Panther just stares at him
PhoncipleBone
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Now to hope I get proper Baron Zemo in a later film. I need it. Purple hood and all. He is one of my favorite Cap/Avengers villains.
Cap don't care.
Reizo Ryuu
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here's a gif of that spider sense moment we were talking about earlier
Too good
Oh god
He will be back, but I pretty sure that he said that because his plan was a sucess
He wanted to destroy the Avengers and end up spliting the team and made his leader (and half of the group) hide in Wakanda.
ChasingComets
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That wasn't how I interpreted it. He said that because the Avengers' victory was Pyrrhic at best; he succeeded in destroying earth's mightiest mentally, scarring them permanently and tearing the team apart. (the scene of the near-empty avengers facility reiterating this, with the visibly broken Tony and Vision + paralytic Rhodey)
Whether Zemo comes back for more is a question left to Feige and co. I'm of the opinion that he served his purpose incredibly as the literal metaphor of the movie.
I'm guessing Cap's secret avengers will still be active around the world after Civil War.
Only Bucky is frozen in Wakanda, probably to be reactivated in BP's solo movie.
HighResTomato
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Just got back from the cinema, loved the film. Black Panther was awesome, and Spidey was great as well,
here's a gif of that spider sense moment we were talking about earlier
Oh man the lenses/eyes are working a lot better than I expected
Just got back from the film. Absolutley loved it. It's 3am here so I'm going to jot down some quick thoughts:
Overall I had a better time watching this then Winter Soldier. Not to say I didn't like Winter Soldier (I did) but there wasn't a point I can recall where the film lost me.
They did a good job in making me bounce back between Cap and Iron Man. One minute I agreed with Cap then I completely understood where Iron Man was coming from. I must have changed sides about five times throughout the film, which I honestly didn't see happening.
Ant-Man was great. Loved him in Ant-Man and I loved him here. Seeing him turn into Giant Man and everyone's reactions was amazing. It felt like one of those moments that was stripped right out of a comic book.
Characters like Widow and Hawkeye were dealt with a lot better than Age of Ultron. Widow did more in the first ten mintues of the film than she did in the entirety of AoU. All the side characters just felt like they were treated better than AoU which made me really happy.
I normally hate Iron Man but he was great in this film. I sided with him multiple times and I was totally on his side during the final fight which I was not expecting.
Black Panther was amazing. He was fantastic in this film and I can't wait to see more of him and Wakanda.
I thought Vision and War Machine were kind of assholes in this film, compared to them being decent guys in previous films. I expected War Machine to be a bit more standoff-ish but Vision took me by surprise. He completely obeyed Tony and did anything he told him to do, even if it meant nearly killing other people.
Zemo was great. I'm still kinda upset they didn't use that kick-ass concept art from Winter Solider but this was intertesing take on the character and I'm kinda glad they didn't have him related to Hydra. Also glad they kept him alive.
Crossbones was a bit disappointing but I expected him to not be in the film for too long. Still felt like a load of build-up for relativley nothing.
Mid-Credits and Post-Credits scenes were amazing. Probably my favourite of all time, mostly because they set up my two most anticpated MCU films.
Interested to see what happens to the Avengers now. Tony doesn't have many allies left (Just Vision and maybe Panther now that I think about it) and everyone else is underground. Hopefully they're setting up a Secret Avengers.
Spider-Man was hands-down 100% the best part of this movie. From the moment Queens showed up to the moment he said he was done I had the biggest grin on my face. I can safely say we've got the perfect Spider-Man. Holland is great as both Parker and Spidey and I can now move on from Maguire and Garfield. I cannot wait to see Homecoming and I'm probably going to see Civil War again later today just to see Spidey again.
Can't give a rating yet though. I'll have to see the film again. At the moment though, probably my favourite MCU film.
Overall I had a better time watching this then Winter Soldier. Not to say I didn't like Winter Soldier (I did) but there wasn't a point I can recall where the film lost me.
They did a good job in making me bounce back between Cap and Iron Man. One minute I agreed with Cap then I completely understood where Iron Man was coming from. I must have changed sides about five times throughout the film, which I honestly didn't see happening.
Ant-Man was great. Loved him in Ant-Man and I loved him here. Seeing him turn into Giant Man and everyone's reactions was amazing. It felt like one of those moments that was stripped right out of a comic book.
Characters like Widow and Hawkeye were dealt with a lot better than Age of Ultron. Widow did more in the first ten mintues of the film than she did in the entirety of AoU. All the side characters just felt like they were treated better than AoU which made me really happy.
I normally hate Iron Man but he was great in this film. I sided with him multiple times and I was totally on his side during the final fight which I was not expecting.
Black Panther was amazing. He was fantastic in this film and I can't wait to see more of him and Wakanda.
I thought Vision and War Machine were kind of assholes in this film, compared to them being decent guys in previous films. I expected War Machine to be a bit more standoff-ish but Vision took me by surprise. He completely obeyed Tony and did anything he told him to do, even if it meant nearly killing other people.
Zemo was great. I'm still kinda upset they didn't use that kick-ass concept art from Winter Solider but this was intertesing take on the character and I'm kinda glad they didn't have him related to Hydra. Also glad they kept him alive.
Crossbones was a bit disappointing but I expected him to not be in the film for too long. Still felt like a load of build-up for relativley nothing.
Mid-Credits and Post-Credits scenes were amazing. Probably my favourite of all time, mostly because they set up my two most anticpated MCU films.
Interested to see what happens to the Avengers now. Tony doesn't have many allies left (Just Vision and maybe Panther now that I think about it) and everyone else is underground. Hopefully they're setting up a Secret Avengers.
Spider-Man was hands-down 100% the best part of this movie. From the moment Queens showed up to the moment he said he was done I had the biggest grin on my face. I can safely say we've got the perfect Spider-Man. Holland is great as both Parker and Spidey and I can now move on from Maguire and Garfield. I cannot wait to see Homecoming and I'm probably going to see Civil War again later today just to see Spidey again.
Can't give a rating yet though. I'll have to see the film again. At the moment though, probably my favourite MCU film.
Scrooge McDuck
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Does the fact that Bucky killed Tony's parents actually revealed in the movies before this one?
Gordon Shumway
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ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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It's very, very strongly alluded to in Winter Soldier. A remnant of Zola lays out that HYDRA used to eliminate their enemies discreetly, and that's when we learned that Howard Stark was a casualty by their hand. It took this film to learn that Winter Soldier killed both Howard AND Maria Stark as one of his missions.
Macadinho94
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I kinda wish they killed Steve at the end and did the whole resurrection thing in Infinity Wars. Still awesome flick, 9/10. Going to see it again on Saturday
PhoncipleBone
Banned
They don't kill a character off, people complain of no stakes.
But, if they kill a character off then resurrect him, then there will be no stakes.
It is actually harder for them to pull off having them live, as the characters have to deal with the personal fallout from it all.
But, if they kill a character off then resurrect him, then there will be no stakes.
It is actually harder for them to pull off having them live, as the characters have to deal with the personal fallout from it all.
Hope they don't do resurrections in the MCU.
Deaths in comics never mean anything since it's more of a vacation than an actual death.
Just got back - film was fucking amazing.
I wish they went through with killing off War Machine.
Black Panther was incredibly badass. His fight scenes had me on the edge of my seat.
Spider-Man was pure gold.
Ant-Man was hilarious. He brought out the biggest laughs at my screen.
Bucky was a highlight from start to finish. His fight scenes were legit too. Him, BP, SM and AM were my favourite characters in the film.
Absolutely brilliant.
I wish they went through with killing off War Machine.
Black Panther was incredibly badass. His fight scenes had me on the edge of my seat.
Spider-Man was pure gold.
Ant-Man was hilarious. He brought out the biggest laughs at my screen.
Bucky was a highlight from start to finish. His fight scenes were legit too. Him, BP, SM and AM were my favourite characters in the film.
Absolutely brilliant.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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That right there though, that's exactly what everybody would be thinking if Steve did die at the end of this film. Everybody would think "Oh some Infinity Stone thing will bring him back during Infinity War" and the death would almost immediately lose its impact.
That's not to say that I didn't imagine how it could possibly happen in my head though. Something like Bucky can't get to distract Stark in time, and when Steve charges in, Stark gives him the beating of a lifetime, culminating in an overpowered repulsor blast that fatally cuts through Steve's chest, cleaving his heart and left lung, and the severity of the attack shocks Stark enough to stop himself.
He kneels down to Steve's slowly-dying body, and Steve only has enough strength to bring his hand up... and tap Tony's chest. "...Not... perfect, Tony... Only... good... men..." and then Steve Rogers dies.
That's as far as I got. Terrible, I know.
PadWarrior
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What was the second post credit scene?
Aunt May film secretly set up to replace Inhumans in 2019
Scrooge McDuck
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Ah, thank you.
I thought it's a bit weird that the film treated the scene as a surprise revelation (both to the audience and to Tony) but Steve actually knows about it. I see that the preceding information is probably subtle enough to warrant it.
As an aside, why is that news article about Howard's death showing Dominic Cooper instead of John Slattery.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
lol..
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
Winter Soldier came out before Ant-Man and this film, where they decided to bring back John Slattery, so I guess they were just working with what they had.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
That's a head scratcher. I'd say it was more about Cooper being Howard in the First Avenger than anything else. It's who Steve would recognize. Slattery came in for Iron Man 2 and beyond. Cooper remains Stark on tv shows..
PadWarrior
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What was the second post credit scene?
Whoa leak already?
here's a gif of that spider sense moment we were talking about earlier
Whoa leak already?
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
Nah, Stark would be watching Netflix, he'd be bored during the middle of Daredevil season 2, flicking around on his phone for YouTube, hello~ who's this wall-crawler that's making waves on the web?
More fun than opening an e-mail sent by Pepper with files on Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Spidey, and a single line going "DEAL WITH THIS, TONY." And then Tony's like "Nah, let's have some fun" and buzzes FRIDAY to look up everything on Spidey.
Plus, he's "On a Break" so, you know, Unusually Hot Aunt May.
I still wonder who's the actor that Marvel will choose for the Hot Uncle Ben that got married to Hot Aunt May.
Okay, I'm past the "This song just keeps reminding me of Immigrant Song" phase and all-in on "Just break down with involuntary laughter" phase of this song.
Aunt Waifu walking in on Peter and he quickly hiding what he was doing with his hand and brushing her off the room so he can continue
What? You misread that scene dude. He was basically saying his plan didn't fail. He basically tore down the Avengers and fucked everyone's shit up. Plus you know the planning to off himself part.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
The entire airport fight scene was leaked.
captainpat
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I've only watch that leaked airport fight. If they didn't want Cap to leave couldn't they have just blown up the quinjet?
I mean probably, but the original plan was to just try and put some sense into everyone before hell broke loose
Scrooge McDuck
Member
But the quinjet is private property!
Gordon Shumway
Banned
He's not Zod, dude. They're friends..
PadWarrior
Member
Did you see what the second post credit scene was?
It wasn't on my screening but if you go back a page or two there should be an instagram link to it
Gordon Shumway
Banned
We got screwed! 😬
Refunds are already being sent out
Gordon Shumway
Banned
lol..
PadWarrior
Member
Nada on the link.
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