Manmademan
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Lol. Pretty sure I can list a half dozen jrpgs where spiky haired teens go from getting owned by rats and squirrels to tanking nukes in a matter of days
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Captain America vs. Master Chief
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Lol. Pretty sure I can list a half dozen jrpgs where spiky haired teens go from getting owned by rats and squirrels to tanking nukes in a matter of days
DoktorEvil
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They also involve summonings, magic, limit breaks, and all other kinds of other bullshit. Lets not go into JRPG logic, because then that'll create another thread where tons of GAFfers will say why Cap will get his shit pushed in.
I stand by that statement
One important factor that I haven't seen addressed, load out.
Does Chief have access to all his weapons and skills? If he gets his entire catalogue to choose from then it actually seals his loss because that hives Cap the access to Thor's Hammer.
Lets remember Captain is recognized by the hammer, Thor, and Odin as having the right to use it and had done so in the past.
So if Chief has everything then he's not just fighting Cap, but Captain with the power of Thor.
Does Chief have access to all his weapons and skills? If he gets his entire catalogue to choose from then it actually seals his loss because that hives Cap the access to Thor's Hammer.
Lets remember Captain is recognized by the hammer, Thor, and Odin as having the right to use it and had done so in the past.
So if Chief has everything then he's not just fighting Cap, but Captain with the power of Thor.
Chief doesn't just lift Mjolnir, he WEARS it.
Since when does the Chief have access to fire a Halo?
MC brings down the whole town and survives with a packet of seeds to start again.
TUROK
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Nobody is as adept at doing it as comic book writers are.
DoktorEvil
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its easy he travels to the ark and remotely activates all other halos with the index
capn crunch ded
Chief has probably the best implementation of plot armor I can remember. Nothing he accomplishes or overcomes feels contrived. He's just about that action, boss.
Sadly the explosion hit a planet galactus was about to consume. This... makes him grumpy.
Master Chief and his entire species are slaughtered as a result of his actions. Captain America is then resurrected by Nick Fury's Infinity Formula and has a good laugh about the stupid power suit man who pissed off a space god.
pants
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In this regard, mangaka shits all over comic book writers from the fringe of the atmosphere.
Uhh no. If he has the hammer then he just teleported away or better yet just chucks Chief into a black hole.
Cap actually has had the hammer and power of Thor. Chief doesn't ever wield a bunch of Halos.
DoktorEvil
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Sadly the explosion hit a planet galactus was about to consume. This... makes him grumpy.
Master Chief and his entire species are slaughtered as a result of his actions. Captain America is then resurrected by Nick Fury's Infinity Formula and has a good laugh about the stupid power suit man who pissed off a space god.
Master Chief is humanoid.
Im not saying Cap should have the hammer by the way, just that there needs to be ground rules.
You cant keep saying Chief gets everything he wants from all his games, books, and shows just because he equipped them.
If you do, then you need to allow Cap the same thing. To Cap the Hammer is no different then Chief grabbing a Plasma Sword but one turns the the holder into a near invincible Thunder God.
You cant keep saying Chief gets everything he wants from all his games, books, and shows just because he equipped them.
If you do, then you need to allow Cap the same thing. To Cap the Hammer is no different then Chief grabbing a Plasma Sword but one turns the the holder into a near invincible Thunder God.
Finally, something we can all agree on.
Manmademan
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True. Consider also that hammer aside, Cap is a ranking officer of the Avengers as well as SHIELD, and has access to a metric ton of wildly advanced technology.
Sadly the explosion hit a planet galactus was about to consume. This... makes him grumpy.
Master Chief and his entire species are slaughtered as a result of his actions. Captain America is then resurrected by Nick Fury's Infinity Formula and has a good laugh about the stupid power suit man who pissed off a space god.
halo arrays fire a radiation that kills all sentient life its not actually an explosion and the planet galactors eating while he dies would stay as it is
hurray for the environment
AnathemicOne
Banned
Sadly the explosion hit a planet galactus was about to consume. This... makes him grumpy.
Master Chief and his entire species are slaughtered as a result of his actions. Captain America is then resurrected by Nick Fury's Infinity Formula and has a good laugh about the stupid power suit man who pissed off a space god.
Too bad its not an explosion...
Heheheh.
It wouldn't kill Galactus. He is apart of the very universe itself and it wouldn't let him die.
The non explosion nice though.
AnathemicOne
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MC is iconic with all the available weapons in the Halo games though. Caps is iconic with his shield. If you want to give Caps Thor's hammer then give MC the Halo Array.
It kills the Forerunner (precursor) space wifi/mind though?
Go ahead. Even with the Array Chief is fucked.
Thor has the power to level planets and move at light speeds.
The ONLY thing you do by giving Chief an Array is insure he losses because Cap won't be caught by the radiation and he would destroy the unit before Chief can fire it.
Nothing in the Halo universe is going to be able to stand up to the power of Thor.
Galactus only feeds on planets with life. Killing all life on a planet he was about to consume would literally be pissing in his corn flakes.
He mad bruh.
Not like anyone would really care. I mean, everyone would be dead. MC activating the rings would be a draw with both dead, not a win.
Manmademan
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What, do you WANT Master Chief to die a horrible, miserable death? Mjonir is an energy sponge, on top of all the other ridiculous things it does.
Seriously though, Arguing cap with Mjolnir is dumb, as it's not anywhere close to standard equipment for him, and Thor is rather attached to it.
Now, if you want to discuss cap's photonic shield which he DOES keep in his glove as a backup to his regular shield, that one's valid.
Absorbs damage like the standard shield, nulling out impact- can be fired like an energy blast, and regenerated. Developed for him by SHIELD, still has it- made it's most recent appearance during Age of Ultron.
AnathemicOne
Banned
So uh why wouldn't he be caught by galaxy-wide radiation? Thor is a god but he isn't omniscient or omnipresent. Unless you have a source for that.
Galaxy wide isn't enough.
It needs to be instant across all reality. The hammer allows the holder to instantly teleport to where ever they want.
MC stays alive, the ark is a safe haven
Manmademan
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because Thor has FTL reaction times, and the hammer can absorb energy as an area attack?
Not that Thor needs it against the array. He is immune to pretty much anything like radiation or outside influences to the body.
Not important though, Cap doesn't get the defensive buffs with the hammer I don't think.
Manmademan
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Whoever can pick up the hammer gains ALL the powers of Thor. Eric Masterson was just a regular dude until he picked up the hammer. Instantly Thor.
Spider Man 2099 picked up the hammer- gains the powers of Thor, and immortality. lived for a thousand years before getting bored and giving it up.
Oh well then Cap gets to just tank the Halo anyway. Doesnt even need to dodge.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Guys it's Cap and MC locked in an arena fighting to the death. This isn't a 12 part miniseries. Thor doesn't exist. Galactus doesn't exist. The halo rings don't exist.
Then he doesnt have access to 5000 different weapons. That was all I was trying to say.
He has select weapons with a select amount of ammo. He cant have every gun and full access to 3 races weapons and tech the entire time.
Manmademan
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Agreed. all the off topic stuff gives me a headache.
I agree with the previous poster though- MC is being argued here as if he's walking around with every weapon in the Halo Franchise. If that's the case, Cap should at least be considered with the P.Shield as well as a sidearm.
AnathemicOne
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Then what does MC have? He is proficient will all weapons and doesn't stick with just one or two; which is part of his character as a Spartan, just as how Caps is iconic with his shield.
It doesnt matter what he is proficient with. Cap is skilled with almost every weapon known to man, but that doesnt mean he should carry them and have infinite ammo.
Dude gets a pistol and an assault rifle since he can only carry 2 guns. A grenade or two I guess?
Yes, Cap is an expert marksman and is extremely proficient with melee weapons as well.
Manmademan
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Being proficient is one thing, having to literally carry around 50 different weapons from alien pistols, to energy swords, to plasma rifles is something else entirely.
Where is he going to put them all? sure, you could stash them around the arena, but if Cap finds one it will go very badly- Cap is not batman and will happily shoot your face off just as fast as punching it in.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Just give Chief his Assault Rifle and Pistol. Standard UNSC loadout for normal fighting.
Although I'm not clear on why this matters if cap can supposedly dodge all bullets or something. I guarantee you there's 500 comics where he takes hits or gets caught by surprise or a regular Joe lands a punch on him, but whatever. Cap can have a sidearm sure, but a .45 pistol isn't going to be very effective in this fight. I'm not even sure if two or three full magazines of it would be enough to drop his shields. I'm not sure if they could even penetrate his armor, unshielded. The "pistol" in Halo is some ludicrous .50 magnum slug or something and the standard AR actually fires full power rifle rounds (if the people who made Halo weren't dumb-dumbs they would realize that it's not an AR at all, it's a Battle Rifle... but then they already have another thing they call The Battle Rifle), but takes like 12-15 hits to drop shields.
Although I'm not clear on why this matters if cap can supposedly dodge all bullets or something. I guarantee you there's 500 comics where he takes hits or gets caught by surprise or a regular Joe lands a punch on him, but whatever. Cap can have a sidearm sure, but a .45 pistol isn't going to be very effective in this fight. I'm not even sure if two or three full magazines of it would be enough to drop his shields. I'm not sure if they could even penetrate his armor, unshielded. The "pistol" in Halo is some ludicrous .50 magnum slug or something and the standard AR actually fires full power rifle rounds (if the people who made Halo weren't dumb-dumbs they would realize that it's not an AR at all, it's a Battle Rifle... but then they already have another thing they call The Battle Rifle), but takes like 12-15 hits to drop shields.
Ah forgot about that
I wouldn't even give Cap a pistol. Chief won't give two fucks if Cap had one.
Manmademan
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Remember, Rogers works for the Avengers and S.H.I.E.L.D. I'm not sure what kind of sidearm he prefers, but when Bucky Barnes took over as Captain America, he used:
http://marvel.wikia.com/James_Buchanan_Barnes_%28Earth-616%29
Modified explicitly to take out hard targets. AIM (advanced idea mechanics) is essentially an evil super scientist terrorist organization with crazy technology. Whatever bullets that gun fires, it's probably not going to be bouncing off of standard armor.
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