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Captain America vs. Master Chief
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Some folks want to watch the world burn.
I'm not addressing your exact point here, but on the subject of Tony Stark and the level of technology in the Marvel Universe, dude is currently in the process of creating a Dyson Sphere.
Food for thought.
I'm not addressing your exact point here, but on the subject of Tony Stark and the level of technology in the Marvel Universe, dude is currently in the process of creating a Dyson Sphere.
Food for thought.
In Halo the Forerunners developed many Dysons Spheres, one that is 300,000,000 km or 2 AU.
http://www.halopedia.org/Trevelyan
In fact Halo 4 took place in a Dyson Sphere.
http://www.halopedia.org/Requiem
I'm not disputing any of that, I'm just illustrating the level of technology Stark has access to in 2013. Though it is neat that it's just on a much, much smaller scale than what a precursor race in the Halo universe accomplished however many centuries ago. Thanks for pointing that out.
-- Marvel crossover confirmed for Halo 5.
Ah, yeah if you do compare it, what Stark has in the 2013 compared to what the UNSC has in 2558 is staggering. Since while I think the UNSC could make a Shield World, I'm not sure they could have before they got access to Forerunner technology.
NobleGundam
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Oh god.. This is.. Hilarious.I'm not addressing your exact point here, but on the subject of Tony Stark and the level of technology in the Marvel Universe, dude is currently in the process of creating a Dyson Sphere.
Food for thought.
Hopefully he doesn't make it self aware and it starts transforming itself.
Unicron + Ultron = ?
Have you seen the last cutscene for Halo 4? Definitely against the automaton.
I'm not addressing your exact point here, but on the subject of Tony Stark and the level of technology in the Marvel Universe, dude is currently in the process of creating a Dyson Sphere.
Food for thought.
Let's not even ask where the materials comes from and where they are manufactured. I guess they come from Plot Factory. Even with as much as good Stark and company are, they don't have the industrial capacity of the Galactic Empire (Star Wars). 2% of a SPHERE around the sun? Even the Second Death Star is a puny thing in comparison. This is completely ludicrous.
I guess it's some sort of ''holographic/virtual/something'' thing that let them be there without being there without needing any Physical bridge. Seems like Star Trek Holo tech logic.
squidhands
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Doesn't Captain America just need to play Call of Duty to defeat Master Chief?
Finaika
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He could just switch off the Xbox to defeat MC.
Which made no sense. If a Spartan gets someone's neck they are dead.
The tech and workers come from and alien race called the Shi'ar in exchange for Earth based precious metals as Stark explains in the page above. The benefits of coming into contact with alien races and beating the crap out of several of them.
Basically.
Messypandas
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Why doesn't he call it the STAAAARRRRk?
Ah yeah, that makes sense
Personally, the fact that Captain America went from a puny 100-pound sorry sack of bones into someone who can spar with Hulk, Thor, and probably Galactus (because why not?) after drinking a special sauce offends me far more.
*shrugs*
#salty
#whereismysecretsauce
Guardians of the Galaxy beat you to it.
Why can't they be bros instead?
how about avengers vs. these bad boys:
Amen, brother.
So.. those Shi'ar are able to make such a structure in a month?
Sci fi writers have no sense of Scale
I don't really mind, really, I've seen worse in Marvel/DC/Manga/etc.
It's just that sometimes they put those as such extreme that my sense of disbelief is completely destroyed. Cap America being able to lead and win wars against supreme intelligence? Ok, Whatever, that's classic.
Making a kinda Dyson Sphere in a month? Eh, just no.
Two percent of a dyson sphere in a month, from an empire that measures its territory on the galactic scale.
The Galactic Empire made a second death star, didn't even finish it, in 6 Years. A 900km wide Station. Not a ... thing that is larger than 1.4Million kilometers. In a month.
(And the Galactic Empire as at least a ''million'' worlds in it's grasp)
I'm not sure how that's relevant.
I'm comparing 2 Galactic Empire right? I mean, we are talking about a industry level that must be really high. It's not like I want to pull off numbers, but to make such a structure in month they would need to do at least 40,000 square kilometers per SECONDS. And they show us dudes doing it by hand? Where are the Millions of ships with the materials? The Billions of people that would be needed for that? See what I mean by ''scale''?
You're comparing one imaginary race's technological capabilities to another imaginary race's technological capability.
Basing one universe's capacity to build by comparing to another universe's is somewhat nonsensical, especially since they might have different bases to work off.
Considering some of the technologies that have been invented in the Marvel universe, the production of a small part of a Dyson sphere constructed that quickly is one of the more believable aspects. Also, it's a comic book shot, they aren't going to show every little bit of process. Hell they might even be doing the Protoss thing and just warping the necessary matter into place!
Aw yiss, everyone knows that the production capabilities of the Galactic Empire in Star Wars are both meticulously researched and true to life, therefore being not just the best, but the only true measure for what any civilization, fictional or not, could construct in a given period of time.
Manmademan
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Stark mentions in that scan that he's using Shi'ar contractors.
The Shi'ar empire spans galaxies. plural. And there are at least two other empires (Kree and Skrull) that are on somewhat equal footing. Marvel science is so advanced and ridiculous it smokes just about everything easily, INCLUDING star wars.
The Librarian
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No weapons for either, Captain can have his shield = Master Chief wins. That's all I'll say.
Manmademan
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haven't been reading the thread? With no weapons MC has no way to take down a shield equipped Steve Rogers.
Rogers is significantly faster, and has beaten the holy hell out of opponents more skilled and with higher strength levels than an armored MC, and the spartan armor will not stand up to that shield used offensively.
Here's a fun scan I haven't posted yet- occurred in a daredevil book.
Cap is hunting daredevil here, basically playing with him. He's moving so fast he's barely perceptible to daredevil's super senses, and though DD can't locate him, he can determine that cap's body is under no strain at all from moving this fast.
Manmademan
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Basic familiarity with the opponents Cap has fought, combined with the information provided on MC within the thread.
We're assuming that all opponents would basically function at the strength levels they typically display within their own respective continuities, and combat takes place on neutral ground.
Sho_Nuff82
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It just dawned on me that it was Stinkles who posted the "why they still got bullets" crack. This thread, man.
Manmademan
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My hypothesis is that the MU is a miniature parallel universe, hence ridiculous unarmoured strength and resistance. Cap would be the size of an ant in the Halo universe.
Hypothesis debunked.
The marvel U is not one universe, but an infinite number of parallel worlds of varying scope. It's crossed over with continuities OUTSIDE of it on a number of times as well- other comic companies such DC, Valiant, and Archie, and traditionally NON comic properties such as Star Trek, Transformers, Conan, Army of Darkness, and GI Joe. DC (which marvel has crossed over with numerous times) has done crossover events with the Aliens and Predator universes, as well as Masters of the Universe.
Unless there's some kind of muti universe theory within Halo that puts it at many times the size of the standard universe we all inhabit (and the use of standard weights and metrics such as "tons" and "light years" would seem to debunk this) your hypothesis holds no water.
All powerful you say? Well with some elite heretics from reach's firefight mode that would be interesting to see...
haven't been reading the thread? With no weapons MC has no way to take down a shield equipped Steve Rogers.
Rogers is significantly faster, and has beaten the holy hell out of opponents more skilled and with higher strength levels than an armored MC, and the spartan armor will not stand up to that shield used offensively.
Here's a fun scan I haven't posted yet- occurred in a daredevil book.
Cap is hunting daredevil here, basically playing with him. He's moving so fast he's barely perceptible to daredevil's super senses, and though DD can't locate him, he can determine that cap's body is under no strain at all from moving this fast.
DD was also amazed that a guy pushing 3 bills could movie like a ballerina.
RoyalLaFlame
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Even an Elite would kick CA's ass or at least make him shit himself.
Well a elite combat form should be able to do both with ease:
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I can still carry you if you fancy some halo sometime...
Manmademan
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Well a elite combat form should be able to do both with ease:
I can still carry you if you fancy some halo sometime...
Wouldn't even slow my man down.
10 years straight in Dimension Z, while infected, with his body breaking down.
A single one sure what about a whole army of them?
Manmademan
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Cap fought and beat an entire army of those things and worse singlehandedly for ten years straight.
wades into a fight with hundreds of them, including monstrous clones of himself. His body was at the height of infection at this point, and his strength, speed, and stamina were average or worse.
While caring for a kid.
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