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Catholic Church's Peter's Pence charity only gives 10% towards the poor, the rest all goes to paying for the Vatican's administrative budget deficit
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spandexmonkey
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Being this close to God isn't cheap.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Companies do this for breast cancer awareness month while they sell pink shit and keep all the dough as well.
jadedm17
Member
Being this close to God isn't cheap.
Solid first post.
But also seriously who didnt know this nonsense? The fact Churches in the US dont pay taxes has been absurd for years now.
Trojita
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Susan G. Komen for the Cure is the largest when it comes to doing this.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Looking at their revenue makes me fucking sick.
AnotherOne
Member
It's a business.
brap
Banned
Quoting so more people see this. I hate how people act like that charity is one of the best when it's one of the scummiest.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
My favorite is when they have marketing deals with the pink shit plastered all over carcinogen linked processed and fast foods.
And don’t get my started in that Susan G Komen scammer.
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#Phonepunk#
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It’s probably more than most media people and celebrities. I looked up Ellen Degenress and she makes $77 million a year on her tv show alone. Maybe gives away a couple million a year. I’m betting it’s less than $7.7 million.
How much does Marvel give? They made $6 billion worldwide in 2019 yet only donated around $5 million. That is like a thousandth of their profit. LOl
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How much does Marvel give? They made $6 billion worldwide in 2019 yet only donated around $5 million. That is like a thousandth of their profit. LOl
Avengers help unveil $5M donation for seriously ill children
Some of Marvel's top Avengers have assembled to support a $5 million donation to benefit seriously ill children in hospitals around the globe.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Donating chump change to get tax cuts!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yup, that's why they call it raising money for breast cancer "awareness", and not breast cancer research. It's a shame.
All these administrative costs sure are raising awarenes lololol!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 15:7-8 - New International Version
If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need.
Bible Gateway passage: Luke 12:33-34 - New International Version
Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
I'm still looking for the Biblical passage that teaches us to cover your entire city in gold and cover up child molestation . . .
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Donating money to end cancer is a lie then?Yup, that's why they call it raising money for breast cancer "awareness", and not breast cancer research. It's a shame.
All these administrative costs sure are raising awarenes lololol!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It depends what charity you're giving it to.
GreyHorace
Member
Not surprised to be honest. You don't get to be a big organization like the Catholic Church on chump change.
I will say this though, I don't buy into the narrative that they're this great big evil organization. Yes they've done a lot bad things throughout history (burning heretics, forceful conversion of native cultures, the pedophile priest scandal) but a lot of good as well (patronage of the sciences and the arts, spreading literacy, preservation of ancient texts). They're not perfect, but what human organization is?
I will say this though, I don't buy into the narrative that they're this great big evil organization. Yes they've done a lot bad things throughout history (burning heretics, forceful conversion of native cultures, the pedophile priest scandal) but a lot of good as well (patronage of the sciences and the arts, spreading literacy, preservation of ancient texts). They're not perfect, but what human organization is?
DetectiveBananas
Member
Just how Jesus would’ve wanted...
. But seriously, couldn’t at least go 75/25?
. But seriously, couldn’t at least go 75/25?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It depends. Some charities suck, some are awesome. Some government programs suck, some are awesome.
True, but welfare, Medicare, and social security have helped a lot more people than most charities ever will.
Cleared_Hot
Member
You mean a religion based on amade up fantasy is stealing from people? Why is this surprising? Evangelical churches get caught daily. Catholic priests have been raping children for as long as they've been around. The whole thing is shit
undrtakr900
Member
Exactly, or they donate an insignificant sales percentage (ie. under 5%) to actual breast cancer charity and keep the rest for themselves.
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Airola
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It’s probably more than most media people and celebrities. I looked up Ellen Degenress and she makes $77 million a year on her tv show alone. Maybe gives away a couple million a year. I’m betting it’s less than $7.7 million.
How much does Marvel give? They made $6 billion worldwide in 2019 yet only donated around $5 million. That is like a thousandth of their profit. LOl
Avengers help unveil $5M donation for seriously ill children
Some of Marvel's top Avengers have assembled to support a $5 million donation to benefit seriously ill children in hospitals around the globe.
It's not about giving to charity from your profit though. It's about having a charity where people donate money for some certain good cause and then keeping most of that money to yourself.
With these celebrities it's "wow, I got 70 million from my work, maybe I'll give up a million to a charity."
With Catholic church it's like "hey, would you donate a dollar for poor people, oh thanks, I'll give 10 cents to the poor and give 90 cents to my me and my pals."
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
What's that? An international club who appoints it's leader the king of a city and puts him up in a gold plated palace is MISUSING FUNDS?
I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED I say!
I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED I say!
Ellen Degeneres and Marvel aren't charities you coconut.It’s probably more than most media people and celebrities. I looked up Ellen Degenress and she makes $77 million a year on her tv show alone. Maybe gives away a couple million a year. I’m betting it’s less than $7.7 million.
How much does Marvel give? They made $6 billion worldwide in 2019 yet only donated around $5 million. That is like a thousandth of their profit. LOl
Avengers help unveil $5M donation for seriously ill children
Some of Marvel's top Avengers have assembled to support a $5 million donation to benefit seriously ill children in hospitals around the globe.
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Sacke & Sugar
Banned
Become an athiest! You'll still be poor, but at least you wont have hope
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
"If god wants the pope to be rich and fuck my children, who am I to argue?"
iconmaster
Banned
Non-profits are exempt from taxes, why should religious non-profits be any different?
Keep in mind that the donations that fund them are largely paid out of income that's already been taxed. Taxing churches would amount to taxing the same money twice.
synchronicity
Member
Power corrupts. Money is a symbol of power.
Side note. In my view no organization - faith-based or otherwise - that is given money for free or for products or services rendered should be exempt from paying taxes.
Side note. In my view no organization - faith-based or otherwise - that is given money for free or for products or services rendered should be exempt from paying taxes.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
It’s more the idea that something is considered non-profit when it still nets the proprietors vast wealth. And any sales tax paid for a good or service is technically a second tax too.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
It's an inditement on Christianity. Imagine what good could be done if we used this money like Christians used to use it in the recent past (universities, hospitals, homes for orphans, etc).
iconmaster
Banned
Sure, that shouldn't happen. There are churches that abuse their non-profit status.
I think the proper corrective is not more taxes but to simply require churches file tax returns once donations exceed a certain amount. They could still lie, but then there's grounds for taking action.
I'm on the board of a church myself, and was amazed to find out we aren't required to file.
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Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
When I buy shoes, the money I'm paying has already been taxed. Paying sales tax is taxing the same money twice. I shouldn't pay taxes on shoes, right? Oh wait, that's not how taxes work.
The Catholic Church isn't a non profit. Dressing Pope Georgie in fine silks, feeding him five start meals every day, and housing him in a solid gold castle don't sound like he isn't making a profit off of being Pope. Then you have the extravagant buildings the Church has all over the world. And all the Cardinals also living like very well off (if not rich) men.
Then you have places like the death house Mother Theresa used to run, where she took in people who needed very basic medical care, told them they were fucked, and let them die instead of just taking them to a doctor. Or telling them "you could live, don't come here, go to a free clinic." Or, the Church could have just spent some of it's massive wealth and run a free clinic instead.
iconmaster
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I might argue that’s not right either. We should have income tax or sales tax, but not both.
Either way, the sales tax analogy strikes me as very strange.
I suspect most people who talk about taxing churches aren’t looking for away to correct abuses, but a way to strike a blow against churches. Go ahead and try to get that passed, though. The political conflagration would be something to see.
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Southern Gentleman
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I'm not okay with it... provided it's actually happening and the Wall Street Journal (lol) is actually privy to the situation their sources claim to be "familiar" with.
I'm not familiar with this particular donation, who collects it, or what exactly they are telling people the funds will be used for.
If it's all true as the WSJ says, then you could argue it amounts to theft.
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Cybrwzrd
Banned
God doesn't need the money, but he is telling the Pope that he really should buy a new gold throne. Gotta do what God says, right?
Kenpachii
Member
Charity's have been a scam mostly anyway lets be honest here. All rich people have there own charity to run there money through. Same with politicians etc.
And then u have places that people work there ass off to help people and give them all there time and effort and even cash to help the needy out. and then u got churches by fast the majority if not almost all churches outside of the vatican that are run on community money in those area's, like all the churches and even mosques here.
Of Course people with a hate boner don't see it.
The problem is with the vatican in italy and mega churches in america its a bastardization of the religion and where it stands for.
And then u have places that people work there ass off to help people and give them all there time and effort and even cash to help the needy out. and then u got churches by fast the majority if not almost all churches outside of the vatican that are run on community money in those area's, like all the churches and even mosques here.
Of Course people with a hate boner don't see it.
The problem is with the vatican in italy and mega churches in america its a bastardization of the religion and where it stands for.
Afro Republican
Banned
Well Catholics were never Christians in the first place at any point, but this is not surprising.
I mean the whole vatican/branches are falling apart with all these convictions with drugs and kids. Nothing is really being done about it so it's getting worse. The pope is completely inconsistent so that doesn't help things.
I mean the whole vatican/branches are falling apart with all these convictions with drugs and kids. Nothing is really being done about it so it's getting worse. The pope is completely inconsistent so that doesn't help things.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Buy me a gold tesla