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Celeste vs. Sonic Mania
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
GOTTA GO FAST!
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
If I ever meet you in real life I will ask you to choose between walking on a plane's hangar or eating grass.
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.Pennywise
Banned
Can't I take a bowl full of grass and eat it while I walk in the hangar?
sid2vicious
Banned
Obviously Sonic, how's this even debatable?
nicktwilight
Neo Member
Celeste mechanics,art direction and phycological implications are truly unique and one of a kind.So thats my pick.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
Make a thousand sonic sequels and eventually one of them has to be great, like having a thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters. This is that game. It's cheating to use nostalgic zones from the old good games but the level variations and new parts and music etc really were all great. It was a pleasure to do the Sonic CD style chaos emerald stages too, those are excellent. And there was a Dynamite Dux reference in there. Totally awesome.
As for Celeste, I liked it fine but I think I got my expectations way too high listening to the praise it got. A lot of reviewers on podcasts would talk it up and say how powerfully the story connected with them, and then it turns out it's an inward looking story about depression and mental illness which must be incredibly relatable particularly for modern video game journalists, I'm sure. I didn't dig the story but the puzzle platforming was good enough to get me to the end, although just barely and I stopped going after strawberries in the later chapters because I just wanted it to be done with.
I stand with the thorny blue one.
As for Celeste, I liked it fine but I think I got my expectations way too high listening to the praise it got. A lot of reviewers on podcasts would talk it up and say how powerfully the story connected with them, and then it turns out it's an inward looking story about depression and mental illness which must be incredibly relatable particularly for modern video game journalists, I'm sure. I didn't dig the story but the puzzle platforming was good enough to get me to the end, although just barely and I stopped going after strawberries in the later chapters because I just wanted it to be done with.
I stand with the thorny blue one.
GametimeUK
Member
I appreciate Celeste more than I actually enjoy it. I had a blast with Sonic. Sonic wins for me.
John Mullins
Banned
If it was a full, original game I would have been much more receptive, but Mania is like remix DLC.
Could have been so much better but I suspect they don't have the talent. The best thing they done - what they should have done many years ago - was to lift the physics from the old 2D game. Can't fawn over it too much for that accomplishment though.
Feel like it was received so well because of the sheer thirst - caused by their own self-imposed drought by insisting on delivering so many sub standard 3D and pseudo 2D Sonic games over the years.
Streets of Rage 4 at least tried (but failed) to give us a legitimate sequel.
Could have been so much better but I suspect they don't have the talent. The best thing they done - what they should have done many years ago - was to lift the physics from the old 2D game. Can't fawn over it too much for that accomplishment though.
Feel like it was received so well because of the sheer thirst - caused by their own self-imposed drought by insisting on delivering so many sub standard 3D and pseudo 2D Sonic games over the years.
Streets of Rage 4 at least tried (but failed) to give us a legitimate sequel.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Sonic with its best game in years was awesome this gen. Same with streets of rage
Celeste is great.
Sonic was a aaah finally moment and awesome to play through
Celeste is great.
Sonic was a aaah finally moment and awesome to play through
Bullshit, the talent was there, they mandated to include old levels by SEGA.
John Mullins
Banned
Game is super short, even counting the old levels. Like I said, it's a remix. You could argue it takes some kind of talent to do that of course.
I'm guessing you're one of those "never satisfied" types since you also shat on Streets of Rage 4.
the_master
Member
Both Sonic Mania and Streets of Rage 4 are 2 of the best 2D games up to date, definitely some of the best of the generation. They both have super good gameplay design and level design, both are very well polished and complete experiences.
Very well made games that stand appart from the bulk of games
Heart_Attack
Member
Celeste is overrated. If the game wasn't about depression and had a tranny making the music, it wouldn't had gotten that popular.
John Mullins
Banned
I didn't shit on SoR4, it's not bad, but not bad isn't exactly good enough when you are going up against an actual GOAT. It just isn't as satisfying to play as SoR2 and there are a number of factors why that is the case.
SkylineRKR
Member
Sonic Mania is the best 2D platformer I have ever played. I like it so much, that I want Sega to make a Sonic 4 like this.
I know Sonic 4 exists. But its a load of shit, and has to be erased by something worthy to carry the number.
I know Sonic 4 exists. But its a load of shit, and has to be erased by something worthy to carry the number.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Celeste has to be the most overrated platformer of all time.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
I could not play celeste for more than around 10 minutes, Sonic Mania is a truly great platformer!
.Pennywise
Banned
Mah boy Sanic smelling that 2nd round
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It's shockingly good. It's a pure case study on platforming and level design. I definitely recommend it. It just leaves you wondering how anyone even managed to plan out some of the sequences. It's just pure gameplay.
After beating the game, I watched his GDC talk where he tries to explain his process a bit.
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Batiman
Banned
Celeste is 100 times better IMO. One of the best platformers of all time. Feels amazing to just traverse through the stages and not know what kind of crazy obstacles are coming next. It never gets you off track or frustrated at all. You almost always know what to do, you just have to do it skill wise
Batiman
Banned
TFC
Its a must if you like platformers
Kokoloko85
Member
Sonic’s return to glory
SkylineRKR
Member
Celeste simply isn't that fun to me and I don't like the pixel art. Sonic Mania is peak 16-bit goodness, like, real peak 16-bit goodness. It doesn't look deliberately pixaleted like a lot of these present days indies or anything, its clearly actual MD assets at higher res and with some extra stuff thrown in. They cheat a bit as it looks too good for MD, it would've been a great 32x or even Saturn release. Thats why I like about Sonic Mania.
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