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Cheeseburger Pickles should not be included by default.

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Flynn said:
It must suck to be grown up and still have a baby's taste buds.

For reals. I hate going out to lunch or dinner with too many picky eaters and "special orders" people. Get enough of them together and they'll make a disaster out of everyone's meal.
 
minor effort said:
For reals. I hate going out to lunch or dinner with too many picky eaters and "special orders" people. Get enough of them together and they'll make a disaster out of everyone's meal.

Be an adult and eat what you're served. There's a reason why the cook made the food that way, because that's the way they think it tastes best.

But some people are still used to having their meals cater made to them by their mommies so that the peas don't touch the potatoes.
 
If I'm paying for my food I'm going to get it how I want it. If I'm being treated or fed by someone else then I'll take it as is. As such though I don't make a habit of letting people treat me. Of course there's a point where it's just ridiculous, but it isn't hard to just not put certain things on a burger.
 
Flynn said:
Be an adult and eat what you're served. There's a reason why the cook made the food that way, because that's the way they think it tastes best.

But some people are still used to having their meals cater made to them by their mommies so that the peas don't touch the potatoes.

Exactly. Don't give the chef a heart attack. At a restaurant it is actually an insult to the chef to pick out the stuff you don't want in your food. And if you get a steak, make sure you take the first few bites without any condiment.

Also, special ordering gives the chef, and or fast food employees, a tough time. Instead, find something on the menu that you would eat as is.

For example, I don't like sushi. But I went with my friends to a sushi restaurant. Instead of ordering some sushi that I know I would just pick around and look silly, I ordered some steamed rice from the menu and didn't look like a prick.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
Exactly. Don't give the chef a heart attack. At a restaurant it is actually an insult to the chef to pick out the stuff you don't want in your food. And if you get a steak, make sure you take the first few bites without any condiment.

Also, special ordering gives the chef, and or fast food employees, a tough time. Instead, find something on the menu that you would eat as is.

For example, I don't like sushi. But I went with my friends to a sushi restaurant. Instead of ordering some sushi that I know I would just pick around and look silly, I ordered some steamed rice from the menu and didn't look like a prick.

If you're going to a really descent sushi spot it's even better to let the chef serve you what he wants to. He'll craft an ideal meal for you with the selections he thinks are the best at the time.

It pays to be flexible and open minded when you're dining.
 
Flynn said:
If you're going to a really descent sushi spot it's even better to let the chef serve you what he wants to. He'll craft an ideal meal for you with the selections he thinks are the best at the time.

It pays to be flexible and open minded when you're dining.

yeah I agree. Fortunately this one was just a casual sushi place. If the chef wanted me to try his creation I would do it out of politeness.
 
A chef and fast food employee aren't comparable. I agree on the whole not insulting the chef thing, but if a burger jockey gets his panties in a wad because I told him I don't want tomatoes on my burger, then he can fuck off.
 
Cianalas said:
A chef and fast food employee aren't comparable. I agree on the whole not insulting the chef thing, but if a burger jockey gets his panties in a wad because I told him I don't want tomatoes on my burger, then he fuck off.

It's not about the chef. It's about the formula for awesome fast food that has endured for decades. I take people to awesome hamburger stands in Los Angeles and other places and they immediately start trying to have it their way. I have to slap them and say, "people have been eating this burger this way since before you were born. How about you grow up for a second and find out why?"
 
Flynn said:
It's not about the chef. It's about the formula for awesome fast food that has endured for decades. I take people to awesome hamburger stands in Los Angeles and other places and they immediately start trying to have it their way. I have to slap them and say, "people have been eating this burger this way since before you were born. How about you grow up for a second and find out why?"
What's awesome foodwise for one person isn't for another. This isn't a hard thing to grasp. I happen to loathe mayonnaise more than anything else. IMO any place that uses it by default isn't awesome. I'm all for trying new things, but that doesn't mean I have to like it after I've tried it.
 
I think there's a difference between not wanting pickles on your burger and special ordering a dish from a restaurant. Unless the discussion took a turn at some point? I agree that picking apart a meal at a restaurant is taking being "picky" too far. If the dish has a lot of things you don't like, then don't order it!

Flynn said:
It's not about the chef. It's about the formula for awesome fast food that has endured for decades. I take people to awesome hamburger stands in Los Angeles and other places and they immediately start trying to have it their way. I have to slap them and say, "people have been eating this burger this way since before you were born. How about you grow up for a second and find out why?"

Burgers and Hotdogs are about the customization. Its not like it took some Chef painstaking hard work to put everything together, you just sound like a jerk if your really reprimanding your friends when they dont' want pickles on their freakin hamburger :lol
 
BlueTsunami said:
I think there's a difference between not wanting pickles on your burger and special ordering a dish from a restaurant. Unless the discussion took a turn at some point? I agree that picking apart a meal at a restaurant is taking being "picky" too far. If the dish has a lot of things you don't like, then don't order it!
Exactly
 
This thread makes me want to go to the totally awesome Fuddruckers. You know why they're awesome? Because you customize your own burger without some clown who thinks he's god of the grill trying make you eat crap you don't want.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Burgers and Hotdogs are about the customization. Its not like it took some Chef painstaking hard work to put everything together, you just sound like a jerk if your really reprimanding your friends when they dont' want pickles on their freakin hamburger :lol

I don't mind being that kind of jerk. Try putting ketchup on a Chicago-style hot dog and I'll smack that frank right out of your face.
 
Flynn said:
I don't mind being that kind of jerk. Try putting ketchup on a Chicago-style hot dog and I'll smack that frank right out of your face.

Oh, if its one of THOSE hotdogs or specialized burgers where putting certain stuff on said food is implied, then sure. But if the place doesn't have an option for a regular Cheeseburger / Hamburger where you can add shit on, your going to have people who want to take stuff out. I mean, the slight taste of pickles makes me gag. Imagine me trying eat a burger with some on it? That would be a waste of money if I'm not enjoying it!
 
Flynn said:
I don't mind being that kind of jerk. Try putting ketchup on a Chicago-style hot dog and I'll smack that frank right out of your face.
As you should. Ketchup is vile on anything but scrambled eggs, and only because the fail inherent in both cancels the other out like multiplying two negatives.

BlueTsunami said:
Oh, if its one of THOSE hotdogs or specialized burgers where putting certain stuff on said food is implied, then sure. But if the place doesn't have an option for a regular Cheeseburger / Hamburger where you can add shit on, your going to have people who want to take stuff out. I mean, the slight taste of pickles makes me gag. Imagine me trying eat a burger with some on it? That would be a waste of money if I'm not enjoying it!
Once again, agreed.
 
BlueTsunami said:
I mean, the slight taste of pickles makes me gag.

I guess I can't relate to this kind of thing. There's not a single food I've ever encountered that has made me react this way.

EDIT: I guess I'm an old fuddy duddy about shit like this. People demanding the removal of pickles from hamburgers just feels like more catering to the lowest common denominator. Well, like Captain Picard, I DRAW THE LINE HERE! PICKLES STAY!
 
Flynn said:
I guess I can't relate to this kind of thing. There's not a single food I've ever encountered that has made me react this way.
You'll find it someday and you'll purge the very name of it from your mind.
 
Cianalas said:
You'll find it someday and you'll purge the very name of it from your mind.

I kinda doubt it. I've been eating food for 35 years. I've eaten plates full of tripe and slurped down raw sparrow's eggs. When I was a little kid I threw up eating cottage cheese in Iran, but I'm pretty sure the stuff had turned.
 
I'll try not to derail the thread too much.

My general outlook is this: if there's something commonplace enough, but I don't like it, I try my best to learn to like it. This process has worked in the past for me and I have actually "learned" to enjoy and appreciate things I previously didn't.

I'm currently working on olives. I've always loved generic black olives, but struggled with green, Kalamata and other Mediterranean types of olives. But I know they're a delicacy, and they're worked into many otherwise appealing types of food, so I want to like them.

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I see something like this and I want to enjoy it too.

If it's an obscure enough food that I may only come across once in a lifetime, I obviously won't put much work into trying to like it, but for otherwise common foods, sure.
 
minor effort said:
I'll try not to derail the thread too much.

My general outlook is this: if there's something commonplace enough, but I don't like it, I try my best to learn to like it. This process has worked in the past for me and I have actually "learned" to enjoy and appreciate things I previously didn't.

I'm currently working on olives. I've always loved generic black olives, but struggled with green, Kalamata and other Mediterranean types of olives. But I know they're a delicacy, and they're worked into many otherwise appealing types of food, so I want to like them.

250px-Marinated_olives.jpg


I see something like this and I want to enjoy it too.

If it's an obscure enough food that I may only come across once in a lifetime, I obviously won't put much work into trying to like it, but for otherwise common foods, sure.

I've heard from behaviorists that it only takes four or five times of eating a kind of food before you acquire a taste for it. I try to think about food that way. If something doesn't strike me right away it's not because we're permanently incomparable, it's because I haven't acquired the taste for it.

It's funny, olives may be my one tricky spot too. I too continue to try different kinds hoping to discover what it is that makes people love them so much.
 
Flynn said:
I've heard from behaviorists that it only takes four or five times of eating a kind of food before you acquire a taste for it. I try to think about food that way. If something doesn't strike me right away it's not because we're permanently incomparable, it's because I haven't acquired the taste for it.

It's funny, olives may be my one tricky spot too. I too continue to try different kinds hoping to discover what it is that makes people love them so much.

Yeah, I'd hate to try something only a couple times and write it off permanently. I've proven my own tastebuds wrong in the past. My most recent conversion was to artichokes. I used to think I completely hated them. But I kept giving them enough chances that I've grown to love them.

That goes to entire categories of food as well. I'd hate to think if I'd given up on sushi after my first or second time having it and not enjoying it.
 
Flynn, I have to ask now because I'm curious. Can you taste PTC? I'm not sure if that has anything to do with anything but I'm curious.
 
The people that want all of these abominations on a burger are simply covering for the fact that you have prepared/bought a shitty quality meat and bread. It should be bun+beef+maybe cheese with a thin layer of mayo so the bread does not get soggy quickly. Done. I am winner.
 
Cianalas said:
but if a burger jockey gets his panties in a wad because I told him I don't want tomatoes on my burger, then he can fuck off.


And he most likely will...right into your burger.
 
Tuvoc said:
And he most likely will...right into your burger.
This is why I don't go to fast food joints for burgers, or really anything more complex than chicken strips. The common immaturity of the staff negates any money or time I might otherwise save. Also, I thought you were banned from OT.
 
GoldenEye 007 said:
The people that want all of these abominations on a burger are simply covering for the fact that you have prepared/bought a shitty quality meat and bread. It should be bun+beef+maybe cheese with a thin layer of mayo so the bread does not get soggy quickly. Done. I am winner.

wtf is with you people and mayo?

I'll take what you have but take mustard instead.
 
omg, Mayo is soooo delicious. I can't explain why. I need to assess this.

A Turkey Club with Lettuce, Tomato, Bacon and Mayo = OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
 
Flynn said:
Is that the stuff that makes you hate cilantro? I'd kill myself if I had a problem with that.

Though I used to smoke and I've enjoyed tea and coffee forever, so I certainly don't have that problem.
I don't know. I can taste PTC but I like cilantro. Most of my PTC tasting friends also like cilantro. I haven't been able to find anything that definitively links them together.
 
Cianalas said:
I don't know. I can taste PTC but I like cilantro. Most of my PTC tasting friends also like cilantro. I haven't been able to find anything that definitively links them together.

I've seen people complain that there's a genetic component to people who feel that cilantro tastes like soap.
 
iapetus said:
Why do people call coriander 'cilantro'? I thought it was just a Mexican thing, but apparently not...

Even stranger, my step-mother in Puerto Rico insists that there's a difference between cilantro and culantro.
 
iapetus said:
Why do people call coriander 'cilantro'? I thought it was just a Mexican thing, but apparently not...

I've never heard it called coriander here in California. It's always been "cilantro" to me.

It wasn't until years later that I knew it was called coriander elsewhere.
 
beelzebozo said:
picky eaters are my pet peeve. it's embarrassing eating in a restaurant with a picky eater.

Tangentially, I hate people who go to a restaurant that's famous for a certain kind of food, order the dish that the place isn't famous for, then say afterwards that the place wasn't very good.
 
Flynn said:
Tangentially, I hate people who go to a restaurant that's famous for a certain kind of food, order the dish that the place isn't famous for, then say afterwards that the place wasn't very good.
I always try have a few different things from any given restaurant before forming a negative opinion.
 
Flynn said:
Tangentially, I hate people who go to a restaurant that's famous for a certain kind of food, order the dish that the place isn't famous for, then say afterwards that the place wasn't very good.

While I usually won't say that the place wasn't very good (I'll usually form an opinion after going there a number of times), it kind of sucks when your family wants to go out to a restaurant that's famous for their crab, lobster, etc....and you can't enjoy that said dish because your allergic to shellfish.
 
My in-laws used to go to Texas Roadhouse about once a week, and would take my wife and I. I usually couldn't decide on what to get as sides, so I'd get a Baked Potato, (Fantastic!) and a House Salad. (Meh, but nothing else sounded good, and I could often pass it off to my wife.) The House salad would usually go untouched, leaving the waiter/ress to comment as to why I ordered a salad if I didn't like salad. Then, we went during the whole Tomato = Salmonella thing. I took a few bites of my salad, and really enjoyed it. I realized that the tomatoes were my big problem with the salad. So now I order my salad without tomatoes, because I figure it's better to order something I will actually eat rather than waste money and insult the restaurant by letting the food go to waste.

And yes, I know I could pick out the tomatoes, and I will if I've picked up some fast food. But that's just gross at a restaurant.
 
Thanks to this thread, I will be going to Burger King and getting a whopper with ketchup and pickles after class.

I love me some dill pickles.
 
Forget pickles, it should be no mayo or mustard by default. I cannot eat mayo (can't even stand the smell of it), and I hate how so many burgers and sandwiches come with it by default.
 
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