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[Peroroncino]

This can be a game changer for everybody, I hope publishers won't find a legal way to avoid it until May 2017.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Take that all grey Overwatch loot box! (I still love you :biblethump

all grey isn't a problem as that isn't common...

it's that Grey Grey Blue Grey tho.......that's the slow soul killer.

 

[Weltall Zero]

Wait, does this only apply to items you actually have to buy, or also in-game items you can get without real-world money? If it's the latter it may be a huge issue for games with lots of random chest drops if it's enforced. I have a feeling some publishers may simply decide not to release their games in China.

 

[jelly]

I'm surprised the authorities in other countries haven't caught on yet. Do they not know or something?

 

[Rebel Leader]

Go China


Wait.. what am i saying?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

How about we globally ban loot box microtransactions?

 

[Kremzeek]

Incredible!

This is great!

 

[Rebel Leader]

How about we globally ban loot box microtransactions?

Overwatch made it alot easier to get them

I'm fine with thatvway, except for the time limited items in them

 

[Tempy]

Great for Chinese gamers, but means nothing for everyone else since pubs can just change the odds in other regions..

 

[Modoru]

It's about fucking time.

 

[CadetMahoney]

The real question is which other countries can "strongarm" stuff like this?

China is well aware about it's leverage, but what I like is that they have the balls to do it.

I get the impression some countries could also do it but would be too scared to interfere with capitalism.

 

[Mesoian]

Neat.

 

[jrush64]

Very good. Ive always though lootboxes are just scams.

 

[HabeeNo]

Bless up

 

[Lagamorph]

China to get way better loot box rates than any other region confirmed.

 

[HandsomeCharles]

That's a very interesting piece of policy. I'd say I'm in favour, but in some instances it's going to be quite tricky for the developer to express exactly how it works.

Very few games work on the principle of "1% chance -> Epic item, 10% Change ->Rare item..." etc. Most will have values that constantly ebb and flow in order to entice the player if they've been on a losing streak for a significant period of time, or some may dish out the big rewards at a higher rate earlier on in order to get players invested.

 

[HMD]

Yes! Overwatch duplicates are ridiculous.

 

[Chindogg]

Yes, let's all be like China.

You can praise something for doing something right while criticizing at the same time when they do something wrong.

 

[Kyuur]

Good, but I'm not convinced it will really change the game in any way. People buy lottery tickets knowing the odds after all.

That's a very interesting piece of policy. I'd say I'm in favour, but in some instances it's going to be quite tricky for the developer to express exactly how it works.

Very few games work on the principle of "1% chance -> Epic item, 10% Change ->Rare item..." etc. Most will have values that constantly ebb and flow in order to entice the player if they've been on a losing streak for a significant period of time, or some may dish out the big rewards at a higher rate earlier on in order to get players invested.

Do you have sources on this?

 

[CGwizz]

show us the drop rates for hearthstone, i want to laugh.

 

[BouncyFrag]

Han Solo does not approve.

 

[Rodney McKay]

Definitely a great idea, but I'm curious of how much good it will do overall.

Casinos and Lotteries usually have well known odds, but that doesn't stop a lot of people from spending their money, even if the odds are 1:1000000.

 

[HandsomeCharles]

Do you have sources on this?

I implemented one myself. Is that good enough?

 

[nynt9]

Good, but I'm not convinced it will really change the game in any way. People buy lottery tickets knowing the odds after all.



Do you have sources on this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthston...timer_on_packs_opening_and_the_best_strategy/

 

[antibolo]

better than the incoming us government

I hate Trump a lot but I don't think I would go that far.

It's getting close though.

 

[Madame M]

yeah this'll fix China's economic problems!

 

[Team Filler]

CHINA
DOES
CARE

China do care.

First, they are saving the environment and now microtransactions.

CHINA DOES CARE

Came for this, now I leave satisfied.

 

[Delusibeta]

I believe there's already similar legislation in Japan, and it did jack shit to reduce the number of lootbox based games. So, *shrug*

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I'm curious to see how they display that one given the pity timers.

Hearthstone and OW have pity timers? Since when

 

[Hoo-doo]

It should be like this everywhere. Go China.

 

[Drkirby]

Ok, how long until Valve publishes their odds, I want to see just how bad it is for TF2 and CSGO, I have a decent idea of where Dota Stands.

 

[nynt9]

Hearthstone and OW have pity timers? Since when

See like five posts above yours when I posted the link.

 

[Gxgear]

Damn, China setting the precedent for positive changes to the industry. Good on them.

 

[BennyBlanco]

China cares

 

[Kyuur]

I implemented one myself. Is that good enough?

Not really, your implementation doesn't really prove that most games don't use simpler systems.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthston...timer_on_packs_opening_and_the_best_strategy/

Not really the same thing, they could just add a disclaimer that says "Guaranteed legendary every 40 packs" "Legendary increases chance by x.xx% per pack opened until Legendary obtained".

 

[CHC]

Good idea, China.

 

[HandsomeCharles]

Not really, your implementation doesn't really prove that most games don't use simpler systems.

Thats fair enough, obviously I don't have access to anyone else's source code but from what I've experienced in other games I would be incredibly surprised if any "Big name" games using loot-box style reward systems were just doing a simple dice roll. Remember, it's in their best interest to keep you playing (and paying).

 

[Darryl M R]

This is great.

Now I just want games ERSB rating to include "Gambling" if there are paid loot boxes.

 

[firehawk12]

Wow, first Japan made people disclose their gacha rates and now China?

Asian lawmakers saving video games.

 

[Kinyou]

Good on china. I'm surprised that the EU hasn't tackled this yet

 

[soultron]

1.23.0 Patch Notes:
-- Increased drop probability for every drop type. Enjoy!

1.23.1 Patch Notes:
-- Chinese players can now see probability rates for drops.

 

[KiefbladeMaster]

Really interested to see what Blizzard's numbers look like.

 

[mugwhump]

Nice, let's see what those overwatch rates are.

edit: blizzard will probably adjust probabilities in China by like 1% and say "the probabilities in China are different from everywhere else, don't believe those numbers :^)"

 

[JayEH]

Thanks China.

 

[KiefbladeMaster]

Nice, let's see what those overwatch rates are.

edit: blizzard will probably adjust probabilities in China by like 1% and say "the probabilities in China are different from everywhere else, don't believe those numbers :^)"

Lol, totally expecting something like that.

 

[Madame M]

Pretty sure this is all in an effort to more efficiently exploit video game addict "rehab" loot farms to extract capital from westerners.

Yay state capitalism!

 

[potatohead]

Holy shit.

Never thought China would be at the forefront of this wow.

 

[backflip10019]

China: Doesn't care about civil liberties but wants to know what's in those loot boxes.

Never change, China. Never change.

 

[CoLaN]

Its almost surreal how "accepted" lootboxes are nowadays.

They convinced people to spend a lot of money to get almost nothing back. Amazing.

 

[Illucio]

Thanks China!