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[Vermillion]

If you don't think your child is able to take care of his hygiene himself, you shouldn't let him take care of it himself. And cleaning a penis is really not that big of a deal. [The only difference is that you have a foreskin. It's not like the clearning procedure itself is demanding.] Same goes for brushing teeth, for example. So since sugar is bad for your teeth (sugar is in basically everything nowadays) and you cannot expect your child to take care of his/her teeth themselves you'll make sure that they don't eat anything that has sugar in it, right? Just to prevent tooth decay.

And there are helmets that don't simply go off within a second – a friend's child has to wear one every time she goes outside and that thing doesn't just come off. It comes off when her parents take it off and she knows she needs it (for now).

Your arguments are supposed to be "beneficial here" and "beneficial there" when you have, in fact, just one single argument: You prefer it one way. That's fine and all, but don't mention the insignificant, potential health benefits when you're willing to ignore other, insignificant health benefits.

1) I still control the food they eat, and can easily limit or cut out candy.
2) Most helmets snap on, snap off. That's what mine was like as a kid. They'd wear it when there's an increase in danger, take it off when there isn't. Foreskins don't work the same way.
3) There are benefits to doing it a specific way. When you try to claim it's the same thing one way or another, and one of those ways actually does more, then what reason do you have to do it the other way? None.

 

[LowEndTorque]

Wow. Your dad is a freakin hero. Glad to hear he beat that shit.

Thanks m8

It's been over 12 years since he beat that shit. Luckily his doctor caught it really early. Since then my dad has been insanely disciplined with diet and exercise. All he eats is organic vegetables and fish. He's 71 and has better cardio than me, lol.

 

[snap0212]

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Look, my main problem is that you're not in a position to decide how your son's penis should look. How your son's penis looks is not important when he's a child / an infant.

There's absolutely no reason to have the procedure done before he's old enough. If you think it's too hard for a child to learn how to clean a penis with foreskin, you're wrong. Millions of children learn how to do it and your child will be able to learn it as well.

I have absolutely nothing against circumcision but stay away from your son's penis. There's a time when the look of his penis may matter, there's a time when the topic STDs becomes important, there's a time when prostate cancer may be something he wonders about. However, none of these things are important until way later in your son's life. And when they become important, your son will be old enough to make a decision.

 

[Slayer-33]

Ridiculous bullshit.

 

[RustyNails]

Good. Circumcised peni is happy peni.

 

[Slayer-33]

That's why most American women freak out when they see one, right...?

Honestly, I take a neutral stance in this argument (and I'm in the clipped category). I understand why people say it shouldn't be forced upon a newborn, but I'd imagine it'd be excruciatingly painful to undergo as an adult, even with the luxury of anesthesia.

That said, in America, it's still weird for men to not be clipped. Is it wrong? Sure. Is the culture of acceptance changing? Hopefully. But just as with most of the time a small dick seen worth being mocked, so is an uncircumcised penis to most women. I know a lot of girls who are prejudiced against it just because it's so alien to our puritanical history/culture.

Of course, then you hear stuff like this
and

Botching that shit is the main reason why this shouldn't be done to anyone, that fucking risk holds TREMENDOUS life altering consequences. Also it's not a parents fucking decision in the first place either or for a god damn doctor to recommend unless that specific child needs it to be done under special circumstances (lol).


Mine is uncut and cheese clean, I bathe properly. And I'm so thankful that my parents never cut me. I have full sensitivity and no excess skin when erect at all, it looks cut in fact.. A friend of mine on the other hand isn't so happy about being cut. He told me his is deformed a little...

 

[Stet]

Finally, a reason for me to not be bitter about my circumcision.

Every time one of these threads appears I'm baffled at why so many men are so dedicated to hating their penises.

 

[BruiserBear]

I'm not religious and I'm glad I'm circumcised!

Do you really think I want to be walking around my whole life with a circus freak dick? Get real!

 

[Tashi]

My kids will most definitely be cut. When they get older, they will thank me for their good looking dick.

 

[user8503492]

My firend whos 27 got it done last summer. I had no idea, not that I should have known, till he took a week off of work and didnt tell anyone why.

He called me while he was nursing his wounds and told me about why he did it.

Mind you, this guy is a friggin pimp-daddy-lady magnet, he looks like Prince and right after women being is #1 agenda in life his #2 agenda is keeping himself immaculate. Always a fresh hair cut, designer clothes, hours in the gym etc....
But the reason he got it done... infections.

For as obsessed with him self as he was I couldnt imagine him being dirty, Ive seen this guy shower in the morning before work, then after, then again before we went out for the night :O
But yet... he couldnt keep his dick from getting infections?

I didnt even know you could get a yeast infection on your dick!

And to be honest...I had no idea a cock even produced "cheese" or smegma or whatever it is called. Only thing my bait & tackle have ever produced is piss, cum and sweaty balls.

In my 30+ years on this planet with a cut-rod Ive spent maybe 5 seconds washing my dick per day in the shower and I have yet to ever have any infections, sores, cheese, etc..

 

[Trojita]

My firend whos 27 got it done last summer. I had no idea, not that I should have known, till he took a week off of work and didnt tell anyone why.

He called me while he was nursing his wounds and told me about why he did it.

Mind you, this guy is a friggin pimp-daddy-lady magnet, he looks like Prince and right after women being is #1 agenda in life his #2 agenda is keeping himself immaculate. Always a fresh hair cut, designer clothes, hours in the gym etc....
But the reason he got it done... infections.

For as obsessed with him self as he was I couldnt imagine him being dirty, Ive seen this guy shower in the morning before work, then after, then again before we went out for the night :O
But yet... he couldnt keep his dick from getting infections?

I didnt even know you could get a yeast infection on your dick!

And to be honest...I had no idea a cock even produced "cheese" or smegma or whatever it is called. Only thing my bait & tackle have ever produced is piss, cum and sweaty balls.

In my 30+ years on this planet with a cut-rod Ive spent maybe 5 seconds washing my dick per day in the shower and I have yet to ever have any infections, sores, cheese, etc..

Dude needs to wearing fucking protection.

 

[Vermillion]

Look, my main problem is that you're not in a position to decide how your son's penis should look. How your son's penis looks is not important when he's a child / an infant.

There's absolutely no reason to have the procedure done before he's old enough. If you think it's too hard for a child to learn how to clean a penis with foreskin, you're wrong. Millions of children learn how to do it and your child will be able to learn it as well.

I have absolutely nothing against circumcision but stay away from your son's penis. There's a time when the look of his penis may matter, there's a time when the topic STDs becomes important, there's a time when prostate cancer may be something he wonders about. However, none of these things are important until way later in your son's life. And when they become important, your son will be old enough to make a decision.

Or, OR! I could just pick the one that leaves him with a net benefit anyways. Seriously, you people arguing against it hardly have an argument. If it doesn't matter (a claim which has been made), yet one way provides more benefit, then what's the big deal about getting a little extra safety?

 

[gcubed]

Or, OR! I could just pick the one that leaves him with a net benefit anyways. Seriously, you people arguing against it hardly have an argument. If it doesn't matter (a claim which has been made), yet one way provides more benefit, then what's the big deal about getting a little extra safety?

you shouldn't vaccinate babies either, you should wait until they are old enough to consent themselves.

 

[Mully]

I just Googled "uncircumsized penis."


I hate myself.

 

[badcrumble]

you shouldn't vaccinate babies either, you should wait until they are old enough to consent themselves.

Pretty much. Anti-circumcision activists are literally the same as Jenny McCarthy's anti-vaccination brigade on a moral and intellectual level.

 

[Husker86]

Both were after drinking Jagermeister. Hep-C girl supposedly told me about it but I do not remember this. That was a one night stand only saw the girl once in my life. The herp situation was a love interest from before that I have quite a history with. Jager was involved again, I blacked out and just remember pieces of having sex with her. I got checked the following week and I am clean.

Yes, I am a tard.

If you care about the Herp story: I was talking to her, doing the like thing..then I found out she may have HPV. I said that is okay, whatever I like you a lot (this was long distance at the time). The day I was coming to visit she fucked my friend and told me they used a condom. I was still okay with this and continued to talk to her. Two weeks later I found out both parties knew there was no protection, so I was irate and told her to tell him she had HPV. After a couple of days and a nasty, deceiptful act she dumped me completely called me a liar. Then later on came out and said she knew she had herpes. My friend got tested, he has it too. Classic bros before hos. Fucked up part...I am still like best friends with the chick but good lord she is bipolar.

Hope this made sense I am not proof reading.

HPV isn't Herpes and you probably already carry HPV anyway. Herpes is HSV if that's what you meant.

 

[CrazyDude]

you shouldn't vaccinate babies either, you should wait until they are old enough to consent themselves.

Differences is one has a bigger influence on your health than the other.

 

[BruiserBear]

dick infections?


That sounds terrifying.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/321090

If we assume one thing, and also accept another thing which may or may not be true then it is likely that A = B. In other news: If "if's" and "buts" were candy and nuts then wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?

I once knew someone who said I should become circumcised because it was fashionable and women would like it. The idea of cutting off a piece of my penis for a woman was so astoundingly emasculating to me that I couldn't believe another man would suggest it.

 

[Miggytronz]

My firend whos 27 got it done last summer. I had no idea, not that I should have known, till he took a week off of work and didnt tell anyone why.

He called me while he was nursing his wounds and told me about why he did it.

Mind you, this guy is a friggin pimp-daddy-lady magnet, he looks like Prince and right after women being is #1 agenda in life his #2 agenda is keeping himself immaculate. Always a fresh hair cut, designer clothes, hours in the gym etc....
But the reason he got it done... infections.

For as obsessed with him self as he was I couldnt imagine him being dirty, Ive seen this guy shower in the morning before work, then after, then again before we went out for the night :O
But yet... he couldnt keep his dick from getting infections?

I didnt even know you could get a yeast infection on your dick!

And to be honest...I had no idea a cock even produced "cheese" or smegma or whatever it is called. Only thing my bait & tackle have ever produced is piss, cum and sweaty balls.

In my 30+ years on this planet with a cut-rod Ive spent maybe 5 seconds washing my dick per day in the shower and I have yet to ever have any infections, sores, cheese, etc..

was he not pulling back and cleaning it? Sound like it to me. Im not cut and neither is my bro and I know we've never had issues like that.....EVER.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Pretty much. Anti-circumcision activists are literally the same as Jenny McCarthy's anti-vaccination brigade on a moral and intellectual level.

lol that must be why circumcision is primarily practiced in the backwater parts of america?

 

[snap0212]

Or, OR! I could just pick the one that leaves him with a net benefit anyways. Seriously, you people arguing against it hardly have an argument. If it doesn't matter (a claim which has been made), yet one way provides more benefit, then what's the big deal about getting a little extra safety?

So there's a conspiracy among all major medical associations to make sure your son doesn't enjoy the benefits and that's why they recommend you to not have it done? How can you, a non-professional, say it should be done because of the benefits when professionals say otherwise?

My argument is that you shouldn't do it because your son's penis is none of your business. That and the fact that no medical association says it should be done is a pretty damn good argument in my mind.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Seems like a bit of a stretch, honestly.

 

[Funky Papa]

The fact that some people equal circumcision to a magic protection against infections is kind of scary.

Wrap your fucking dick, morons.

 

[Lionheart1337]

 

[snap0212]

you shouldn't vaccinate babies either, you should wait until they are old enough to consent themselves.

One is recommended, the other one is not. No difference, eh?

 

[Mr. B Natural]

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Very nice. Carry on.

 

[Salmonax]

Spoiler

But yeah, use protection like a rational human being and this is moot.

 

[xSL4INx]

was he not pulling back and cleaning it? Sound like it to me. Im not cut and neither is my bro and I know we've never had issues like that.....EVER.

To me it sounds similar to the small percentage of women that are prone to uti's no matter how well they take are of themselves.

Some people (albeit a small number) have issues with that sort of thing and is beyond their control.

 

[Maleficence]

I love how Gaf loves science... until it's something that Gaf disagrees with, in which case they suddenly decide to become uber critical and "disbelievers".

 

[Flo_Evans]

I love how Gaf loves science... until it's something that Gaf disagrees with, in which case they suddenly decide to become uber critical and "disbelievers".

I love how GAF reads headlines, but doesn't understand the significance or the results of the studies the headlines are based off.

"I would not go out and advocate for widespread circumcision to prevent prostate cancer," said the lead author, Dr. Jonathan L. Wright, an affiliate investigator in public health sciences at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, reported Reuters Health.

Wright said his study, which included almost 3,400 men;1,754 had prostate cancer -- the largest and most comprehensive of its kind so far -- was focused on shedding light on cancer development, rather than prevention. "We see an association, but it doesn't prove causality."
Siobhan Sutcliffe, PhD, assistant professor in the division of public health sciences at Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis, Missouri agrees, "You can draw stronger conclusions from the results of a clinical trial than from a case–control study,"she told Medscape Medical News. "This will require many more studies."
Said Louis Kavoussi,MD, the chairman of urology at North Shore-LIJ Health System in Lake Success, N.Y.:
“There are good reasons to get circumcised, but prostate cancer prevention is not one of them,” Web MD reported.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/321090#ixzz1p10wru4L

 

[Discusguy]

Always the same arguments. I just wanted to laugh at all the insecure peeps that don't want to look diff than what America sees as normal. Never had an issue with getting any. I don't know, the girls you guys are seeing must really sheltered

 

[BobLoblaw]

It's been a couple of months since the last circumcision thread. Should be fun. Anyway, I'm proud to be cut. The fact that it decreases the chances of acquiring STDs and may reduce the chances of prostate cancer is a win-win in my book. How many health-related benefits are there to being uncut (and no, pleasure's not one of them)?

 

[Red Liquorice]

That's why most American women freak out when they see one, right...?

Social conditioning.

 

[Ultimadrago]

Non-circumcised vs Circumcised thread go.

Non and it has gone peachy for me thus far. Regret nothing.

Not that I'm against the act of circumcision. Just don't want it for myself.

 

[Vermillion]

So there's a conspiracy among all major medical associations to make sure your son doesn't enjoy the benefits and that's why they recommend you to not have it done? How can you, a non-professional, say it should be done because of the benefits when professionals say otherwise?

My argument is that you shouldn't do it because your son's penis is none of your business. That and the fact that no medical association says it should be done is a pretty damn good argument in my mind.

Hm. Why do medical associations not recommend it, anyways?

 

[Maleficence]

I love how GAF reads headlines, but doesn't understand the significance or the results of the studies the headlines are based off.

I hope that quip wasn't directed to me as it seemed to be, cause I didn't make any assertions regarding the study. Merely pointing out exactly what I did point out, Gaf is only critical of science when it suits them. (Though to be fair most people have this bias so it shouldn't be surprising)

 

[MThanded]

What this really says is STIs play a role in prostate cancer.

But if you dont read the whole thing you won't ge to that point.

 

[okdakor]

No

 

[jorma]

My kids will most definitely be cut. When they get older, they will thank me for their good looking dick.

you sound like an ethiopian tribalist talking proudly about his daughters.

 

[ronito]

Welp looks like I'm just gonna have to start fapping a lot more now. Gotta keep that prostrate happy.

 

[Darklord]

I just Googled "uncircumsized penis."


I hate myself.

WHY IS THERE A PICTURE OF A DICK WITH WASPS ALL OVER IT. WHO WOULD DO THAT?

 

[windz]

Non-circumcised vs Circumcised thread go.

With pictures and sword fight tournaments

 

[GatorBait]

Current circumcision rates in the United States are a little over 50%. I'd imagine it is something that is going to continually decrease as the baby boomers die off and the younger generations grow up and have children, but there will always be a sect of men circumcised for religious reasons.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I'm circumsized, I eat red meat once a week, I don't drink soda, and I exercise. I am awesome.

And being cut looks aesthetically pleasing. A uncircumsized penis looks like you're playing peek-a-boo with your junk.

 

[whitehawk]

No

What the fuck is this. They don't use that.

 

[Ken Masters]

give me more enjoyable sex for life and cancer at 85 then numb sex for life and less chance for prostate cancer

 

[Wazzim]

15% woohoo

give me more enjoyable sex for life and cancer at 85 then numb sex for life and less chance for prostate cancer

Because prostate cancer only happens around your 85th birthday right?
Besides, the 'more enjoyable' thing is irrelevant because one has his own level of joy based on life experience. My sex may feel as good as yours for me even though mine secretly is worse (or vice versa).

 

[Salmonax]

give me more enjoyable sex for life and cancer at 85 then numb sex for life and less chance for prostate cancer

This contract is sealed.

 

[Orayn]

Gonna repeat my standard spiel here... Nothing wrong with circumcision, just don't force it on an unconsenting baby, thanks.

Social conditioning.

Yep.