Chairmanchuck
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From what I played of Lawbreakers it actually plays like a mix between TF2 and the old Arena-shooters, while OW clearly plays more than TF2.
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Cliff Bleszinski addresses the differences between Lawbreakers and Overwatch
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From what I played of Lawbreakers it actually plays like a mix between TF2 and the old Arena-shooters, while OW clearly plays more than TF2.
Thrashinuva
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A great social movement comes about to force people to stop generalizing people into genders, and so people start generalizing people through other means instead.
Don't worry though, it's not your fault.
I assume certain characters are tweaked differently to achieving a PoTG. Widowmaker, Reinhardt and Symmetra all have a more lenient quota for kills in a space of time compared to other characters (Particularly those scoring multi-kills with their Ultimate)
SmartWaffles
Member
Everything that guy has said is pure hyperbole and just ignore him. 25 meters? Someone really needs to get his eyes or sense of distance checked.
It is nothing like Overwatch. LB plays completely different.
Takeru
Member
What I heard from this one guy who played it, the abilities your character has won't do you much and the game still relies on gun play. That's nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTe_swpB8X4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTe_swpB8X4
SocksAndShoes
Banned
Takeru
Member
Lmao, right. Besides the design (which is barely identical), they are different games. I found out late into the game that people were comparing it when I saw memes on Twitter.
Lanrutcon
Member
He's actually right.
Like it or not, similar or not: Lawbreakers is going to get compared to Overwatch, since it already is.
Chairmanchuck
Member
Right, He has no idea what hes talking about.
The OP and the VG247 article chose the most click baity thread title when Overwatch was only mentioned for a minute or two in the video.
I had honestly never heard of Lawbreakers until now. The aim may be to be "Mortal Kombat to Overwatch's Street Fighter", but I don't picture this standing out enough to be anywhere near as profitable as modern MK has been.
I find it hard to take them seriously with quotes such as this as well:
I find it hard to take them seriously with quotes such as this as well:
I'll definitely need to give this a try when I have the chance, it doesn't appeal to me aesthetically but what I've heard about it sounds good. Overwatch is cool and all - I've already played it almost as much as I ever played TF2. But I still don't rank it above UT. I never got into Gears multiplayer but in the third person shooter world it's still unmatched in basic feel and mechanics. I'd say that I would prefer Cliffy would have stuck with Epic and done another UT but they are doing that anyways and it's coming out pretty damn well.
As for the rock paper scissors thing people are getting way too far into semantics. It's pretty clear what kind of game he's describing and don't act like there aren't extremely one-sided counters in Overwatch (Winston vs Bastion or Reaper for example).
As for the rock paper scissors thing people are getting way too far into semantics. It's pretty clear what kind of game he's describing and don't act like there aren't extremely one-sided counters in Overwatch (Winston vs Bastion or Reaper for example).
TheCanisDirus
Member
What battle?! They don't really seem to have the same demographic lol.
It's like comparing Kingdom Hearts to Dark Souls hahaha.
Y0j1mb0
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Calm Mind
Member
I look at it this way, if Overwatch is the wiimote and nunchuk then Lawbreakers is Sony's Move peripheral. Same basic idea. It's just that one is extremely popular and the other although entirely different conceptually will be looked upon as nothing more than a ripoff of an already popular product.
Interfectum
Gold Member
Lawbreakers is one of the first shooters in years to actually have something to say.
Lawbreakers does look really fun actually. And he's right about people always instantly try to compare games to what they've played before, regardless of how inaccurate they are. There's some popular streamer who does full walkthroughs of games and does this every time from the few beginning videos I've seen. "This kind of looks like this game and this game mashed together"
No it doesn't... you just started your play through and haven't even done a single thing yet. And the game doesn't play like either of them.
No it doesn't... you just started your play through and haven't even done a single thing yet. And the game doesn't play like either of them.
SmartWaffles
Member
Oh I wasn't talking about Cliff B. I think his statement is very fair, nothing against him.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
Lawbreakers looks very different to me, and something I could see myself playing, but it also looks a little light on content, but we'll see.
Impossible. Nobody can copy the lightning-in-a-bottle success that was Battleborn
Spring Drive
Banned
Such as ?
Spring Drive
Banned
I miss the 90s. You could look like that and no one gave a fuck
TheCanisDirus
Member
Lol have you played?
Looks can be deceiving... It gets very fast for the type of game it is. It's not a pure arena shooter remember. It's got some pretty cool objective based gameplay and I think it would be a shit storm if it was any faster. That's just me personally.
If anything needs to be faster it's Overwatch. Fuck it's painfully slow at times. Still love it though.
OW is slow, very slow; not LB.
ozz ex machina
Member
I have and most of my feedback revolved around the game needing a huge speed increase. For something cliffy has been touting as "designed for mouse and keyboard" it feels a lot like a shooter designed for consoles at the moment.
The game WANTS you to be airborne and dashing around the arena but sometimes it just doesn't feel that way. Vanguard is a class that I love on paper but the jetpack dashing just isn't clicking with me.
My only hands-on time was in a couple of rounds at E3 though. Maybe spending more time with it at home would give me a different impression but I lost the alpha key they passed out.
UpDownLeftRight
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Why not just play UT4 instead then? it feels counter productive to go that route with one in the works.
No because that would make too much sense
TheCanisDirus
Member
It's def a game where different areas of the map facilitate different speeds and types of gameplay esp. with map and character gravity anomalies. Different characters as well move "better". I mean I could still see it being faster as its PC only but I really think they hit a sweet spot where you can twitch rocket slay and then utilize precision hitscan weapons all while in the air, on the move.
To me this has MUCH more Black Ops 3 than Overwatch.
Zarathos no Daimaoh
Neo Member
While i understand roughly what you're trying to convey (which is malarkey that everyone competing in the genre just say anyway) , positioning yourself as "MK" and versus "Street fighter' , when pegging yourself as the game with more deph and possibly more technical , seems like a failed and weird analogy to me .
Especially when you could have used your own popular games as analogies and references instead
Especially when you could have used your own popular games as analogies and references instead
SocksAndShoes
Banned
2/3rds of the FPS market has no idea what UT is though...
Because this is the guy who actually made the original games and generally has a really good track record? Not a slight against Epic, but gamedevs change employees so much that there's probably next to noone left from the UT days.
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But isn't that one third the people that are gonna read this stuff?
badcrumble
Member
For real.
And honestly, a lot of the design decisions he's making seem geared around making the game friendlier for people who charge into team games concerned solely with their K/D ratios and ignore the actual goals, which is something I couldn't disagree more with. Fitting for the dude behind Facing Worlds, though.
unknownhero
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vicious!