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[Eric C]

Clinton's support jumps 10 points post-debate: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Support for former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among Democrats has jumped since earlier this month, helped by a strong performance in last week's first Democratic presidential candidates debate, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll on Monday.

Fifty-one percent of 1,003 Democrats polled in the online survey said they would vote for Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries, compared with 27 percent who said they would back her main rival, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Forty-one percent backed Clinton and 27 percent favored Sanders in the Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted on Oct. 9. Support for Vice President Joe Biden among Democrats dropped 6 percentage points to 13 percent from 10 days ago.

As for who won the Debate, that also goes to Clinton

Thirty-six percent of voters said Clinton did the best job in the debate aired on CNN, regardless of which candidate they support, while 26 percent named Sanders as the winner.

Among Democrats, Clinton's debate win was more pronounced. Fifty-two percent of 865 Democrats who watched the event believed she did the best job, compared with 29 percent who thought Sanders was the top performer.

^ Which agrees nearly every other legit post debate poll I've seen

 

[ponpo]

Chafee - *

 

[ahoyhoy]

Chafee - *

He's quite the star alright

 

[adj_noun]

I can see the campaign mailer.

LINCOLN CHAFEE FIRST IN POST-DEBATE POLL

 

[BoboBrazil]

How do you score worse than none? Lol

 

[CrimsonCrescendo]

.

 

[Slayven]

How do you score worse than none? Lol

It was his first day, and he had a lot on his plate......and his dog ate his homework.

 

[NullPointer]

So according to this poll Bernie's numbers didn't move at all after the debate? Not up, not down, but the exact same figure as before the debate? Crazy.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

something about Lana Del Rey and stairs and all that. You fill in the blanks.

 

[Lebron]

Webb is going independent though

 

[Team Alucard]

How do you score worse than none? Lol

Chafee was literally polling at zero before the debate. He really shouldn't have even been there, but CNN changed the criteria to accommodate him.

 

[titiklabingapat]

A lot of people are forgetting that Obama, one of the greatest campaigner of our time (when it comes to oration, organization and star quality), had trouble beating Hillary back in 2008. She kept it close until almost the bitter end.

There is no Obama running this time around. In addition, Clinton has largely inherited Obama's campaign team.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I don't trust these polling sources. All the ones posted on Reddit and that were made into topics here showed Bernie with a huge gain.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

It was his first day, and he had a lot on his plate......and his dog ate his homework.

His campaign just died.

 

[Tesseract]

don't be discouraged, we must bern the campaign oil until the bitter end

 

[CDX]

yep.

Bernie seems to have hit some kind of ceiling.
After the debate, Biden is now dropping lower.
And after the summer of horrid headlines (and probably bad campaign advice for Hillary to lay low) Hillary is rising again after the debate.

 

[Guevara]

But the internet keeps telling me Bernie won

 

[CharlieDigital]

...and probably bad campaign advice for Hillary to lay low...

In retrospect, I think it was probably a good idea to stay out of the spotlight and not get super defensive about the Benghazi and e-mail incidents.

She's been given a get-out-of-jail-free card on both of those issues by Republicans recently without having to really be on the defensive publicly (which is want the Republicans wanted; they wanted to see her squirm).

 

[Tesseract]

i think bernie needs a little more time

most people don't know who he is, why he's running, what his plans are

 

[Veritigo_X]

yep.

Bernie seems to have hit some kind of ceiling.
After the debate, Biden is now dropping lower.
And after the summer of horrid headlines (and probably bad campaign advice for Hillary to lay low) Hillary is rising again after the debate.

66% for Sanders in May. Crazy to think it was all uphill from there.

 

[JustenP88]

Shit. Oh well. Still early.

 

[CDX]

In retrospect, I think it was probably a good idea to stay out of the spotlight and not get super defensive about the Benghazi and e-mail incidents.

She's been given a get-out-of-jail-free card on both of those issues by Republicans recently without having to really be on the defensive publicly (which is want the Republicans wanted; they wanted to see her squirm).

You're probably right, but I still think she could have been campaigning a bit more just in general, during the summer.

But whatever, it seems to have all worked out for her anyways.

 

[perfectchaos007]

But the internet keeps telling me Bernie won

The internet said Ron Paul won quite a few debates back in 2008 and 2012

 

[yankeeforever2]

I am not really shocked, Hillary really pandered to the the Democratic base that debate. Sanders pretty much kept on his beliefs.

 

[Valhelm]

fiddlesticks

 

[Meowster]

She performed the best at the debate, it's not shocking people find her fit to run this country.

 

[Kaydan]

Online surveys are worthless.

 

[User 463088]

What is it with Clinton supporters trying to use things like facts, historical trends, delegate math, demographic advantages, support within the party, and scientific polls to try and show their candidate is winning?

It's the Facebook polls that matter. Everyone, everywhere is #FeelingtheBern, except for those who are #FeelingtheChaffe and those that Webb killed.

Hillary's really polling at -48%.

/s

Honestly, though, I'm super glad to see her poll numbers "recover," although I don't think they were really that far down to begin with. I think she needed to go out there and show the party why they like her. She needed to calm people down. The BENGHAZZI! thing has really blown up in the GOP's fat ugly face, so that helped as well.

If Biden gets in, I think that pretty much means the end for Sander's chance to get the nomination. They'll fight for second place. Biden sucks up any chance for Bernie to grab a chunk of the minority vote.

Online surveys are worthless.

Not really, assuming they're scientific polls. But there are ample other polls that shows Hillary going back to her pre-summer leads. Newest traditional poll out of NH shows her taking the lead, although I think that one's really too close to call IMHO.

 

[CharlieDigital]

I am not really shocked, Hillary really pandered to the the Democratic base that debate. Sanders pretty much kept on his beliefs.

I don't get this line of argument. Shouldn't a politician's views reflect those of his or her voting constituency?

It's great that Sanders kept to his beliefs, but don't these data points indicate that there is a lack of alignment between the Democratic voter base and Sanders' beliefs?

 

[Veritigo_X]

Online surveys are worthless.

Not all of them are. Open polls like we saw after the debate definitely are, but this poll actually screened it's participants.

 

[Slayven]

But the internet keeps telling me Bernie won

The daily show had a great bit about this last night

 

[anaron]

I am not really shocked, Hillary really pandered to the the Democratic base that debate. Sanders pretty much kept on his beliefs.

Damn that democrat pandering to democrats!

 

[Angry Grimace]

There's a few people on my FB who legit believe its a vast media conspiracy that the media didn't declare Sanders the "winner."

 

[User 463088]

There's a few people on my FB who legit believe its a vast media conspiracy that the media didn't declare Sanders the "winner."

There are a few people that I know, highly intelligent people, who have been involved in politics for quite a while, who believe this. I genuinely do not understand how this perception of Sanders as the (literal) Messiah has come about. It baffles me. One girl and I have worked together on local elections since 2007. She knows her stuff, but somehow has created a vast media conspiracy against her preferred candidate.

I mean, I get being excited about someone, but to completely let logic and facts fly out the window....it's something I expect from the Tea Party "Unskew" People. The fact that it invaded the left really, really scares me.

 

[CDX]

Online surveys are worthless.

Yes, open to everyone self selected polls on websites are worthless.

Properly administered and screened ones that just happen to be done through the internet, instead of a phone call, are not.

 

[FairyD]

Too bad I don't work in the public relations department. I'd love to see the raw data.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

PPP: Clinton back in lead in New Hampshire

Clinton 41%
Sanders 33%
Biden 11%

Without Biden:
Clinton 45%
Sanders 35%

Link

The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for Bernie. Biden jumping into the race is not going to change things for him. This is the second NH poll which shows that Sanders would have higher support if Biden doesn't get in the mix.

 

[Dixon's Jet]

Worst case scenario is that Bernie is sewing the fields.

Bernie supporters shouldn't worry so much. Perhaps Bernie's campaign is just the beginning. It'll be interesting to see if his ideas are out there in the elections to come after this next one.

Though I would love to see him win. It's ultimately about more than Bernie Sanders, and this crusade might last decades.

 

[noshten]

The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for Bernie. Biden jumping into the race is not going to change things for him. This is the second NH poll which shows that Sanders would actually do better if Biden doesn't get in the mix.

Problem with this line of logic is that the polls you are talking about is nearly 70% 45 and over years of age.

Boston Herald/FPU Poll from yesterday:

Sanders 38
Clinton 30
Biden 19

http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/blog_posts/FPU-BH-Oct-Dem-Tables.pdf
About 53% of people polled were above 45 years of age.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Problem with this line of logic is that the polls you are talking about is nearly 70% 45 and over years of age.

Welcome to primary season.

 

[see5harp]

Oh well I'm still voting with my heart just as I did for Ralph Nader.

 

[Konka]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clin...gaining-sanders-biden-alike/story?id=34580456


Clinton 54
Sanders 23
Biden 16

Clinton 64
Sanders 25

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...lead-over-sanders-latest-nbc-wsj-poll-n447431

Clinton 49
Sanders 29
Biden 15

Clinton 58
Sanders 33

A few other polls from today.

Problem with this line of logic is that the polls you are talking about is nearly 70% 45 and over years of age.

Who do you think votes...

 

[Meowster]

Problem with this line of logic is that the polls you are talking about is nearly 70% 45 and over years of age.

The people who vote, yes?

 

[JustenP88]

Problem with this line of logic is that the polls you are talking about is nearly 70% 45 and over years of age.

Who cares? We just want to call the election already! Complacency is the strategy. Let the Democrats implement it.

Bernie supporters shouldn't worry so much. Perhaps Bernie's campaign is just the beginning. It'll be interesting to see if his ideas are out there in the elections to come after this next one.

Though I would love to see him win. It's ultimately about more than Bernie Sanders, and this crusade might last decades.

Yes.

 

[Jonm1010]

The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for Bernie. Biden jumping into the race is not going to change things for him. This is the second NH poll which shows that Sanders would have higher support if Biden doesn't get in the mix.

Umm....that poll shows that if Biden jumps in Hillary drops 4 percentage points and Sanders 2. Meaning Biden is primarily siphoning votes away from Hillary. Likely almost exclusively if Bidens message of moderate politics and compromise is what will headline his campaign based on the recent rumors.

 

[daman824]

Damn.... I'm really going to be forced to vote for Hillary huh?

At least her Supreme Court picks will be good

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Umm....that poll shows that if Biden jumps in Hillary drops 4 percentage points and Sanders 2. Meaning Biden is primarily siphoning votes away from Hillary. Likely almost exclusively if Bidens message of moderate politics and compromise is what will headline his campaign based on the recent rumors.

4 vs 2 is not almost exclusively. It's only proportional given that Clinton has more to lose. It's also why Bernie could EASILY see himself drop to third place if Biden gains ground.

The only people that think Biden is going to help Sanders are the people who believe in the one in a million scenario where Biden and Clinton split the vote so evenly that Bernie comes in with his 33% or whatever and narrowly beats them both. That this continue all the way into March and April with Clinton and Biden not backing down and Sanders somehow sneaks a win and becomes the nominee. It is nonsensical.

 

[zero shift]

I'm surprised that Bernie is doing so well.

 

[see5harp]

I don't even know what the difference is between Hilary and Biden. I want someone left of center not someone who still can't give a straight answer regarding recreactional weed.

 

[Konka]

Umm....that poll shows that if Biden jumps in Hillary drops 4 percentage points and Sanders 2. Meaning Biden is primarily siphoning votes away from Hillary. Likely almost exclusively if Bidens message of moderate politics and compromise is what will headline his campaign based on the recent rumors.

A 2 point change isn't significant with a lead like that, especially when he was ahead in New Hampshire and other than Vermont its likely to be his strongest state.

I don't even know what the difference is between Hilary and Biden. I want someone left of center not someone who still can't give a straight answer regarding recreactional weed.

And there it is.