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[Cow Goes Moo]

This is however another excuse to post Lovely Salsa's hilarious ASS STORM IS COMING gif:

wait a minute... these are actual butts?

 

[Hilti92]

If this was mid-day, GAF would be down.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

He was saying imagn=imagine to this post

Yes.

They better get this sorted within a year.

 

[mrg6290]

What is there to look into? Not trying to sound like a dick even though I know I am but... shouldn't he just know the answer?

My assumption is that he wants to be 100% sure before he posts. He doesn't want to make another mistake like he did when he said Xbox Music offers free streaming w/ ads on XB1.

 

[Bluth54]

Amazing. Is this gif from a movie?

The part with the kids is from Jurassic Park when they are in the car near the T-Rex pen.

 

[Replicant]

Is this a catastrophic situation though?

I guess not if you've always wanted your consumers to get the DRM.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

imagn.

Those motherfuckers....

I swear, if publishers think they can get away with this bullshit, they are going to have ass storm on their hands!

Spoiler

: )

 

[benny_a]

"Please hold, while I come up with the nice-sounding official PR response to this catastrophic situation"

What is this catastophic situation?

It's 2 weeks before launch. Is the issue that the day one patch isn't ready yet?

 

[Amir0x]

I will continue to assume he is looking into it because he wants to be extra sure of the answer because of recent mistakes (like the free music streaming mistake thing he made).

I just have to believe this can't be true. It's just too insane at this point.

Amazing. Is this gif from a movie?

Jurassic Park combined with something from some other movie I have no clue about.

 

[f0lken]

PS4 version of Ghosts has offline play.
Xbone version apparently doesn't.

But he was playing offline before

 

[Barzul]

Sometimes I hate the way cboat posts. S/he knows their posts carry a lot of weight but still posts one word posts that just lead to more speculation whether right or wrong. It helps no one, because it doesn't answer anything. I want to know if a console I'm spending $500 on will lock me out of games if I don't have an online connection. His/her post has now alluded to this possibility, but does not serve as confirmation leaving us in limbo.

 

[razgriz417]

My guess is that there are still more Day 1 patches to come, wasn't it rumored that the Xbone's Day 1 patch would be 1.5gigs and the one this dude downloaded was only 500mb?

 

[hawk2025]

there is no mechanisms.

About what cboat responded to. Didn't we already know if a dev wants to they can require online? Isnt that the case for both systems?

Reposted for the new page, my opinion on why it's not exactly that simple:


And for those saying this is not a revelation -- it is (if, with a large if, Activision actually did this) in the following sense:

- It's the first example of a huge game doing it
- It's right at launch
- It would follow precisely the 24 hour policy, meaning that the DRM infrastructure was kept in the platform to facilitate implementation of software-specific DRM.

I will continue to assume he is looking into it because he wants to be extra sure of the answer because of recent mistakes (like the free music streaming mistake thing he made).

I just have to believe this can't be true. It's just too insane at this point.

Good point, he's probably just making extra sure. Still on the "scenario one" camp as well

 

[neptunes]

Can he try other games?

Yikes!

Will the game still require online after the 22nd?

 

[vasametropolis]

there was for the OS, yes.

That's what I'm trying to get at. It no longer is OS enforced by Xbox, but maybe the code required to do this on a game by game basis is still present. It's a publisher decision. Maybe they are providing publishers with a way to do this.

 

[DopeyFish]

Reposted for the new page, my opinion on why it's not exactly that simple:


And for those saying this is not a revelation -- it is (if, with a large if, Activision actually did this) in the following sense:

- It's the first example of a huge game doing it
- It's right at launch
- It would follow precisely the 24 hour policy, meaning that the DRM infrastructure was kept in the platform to facilitate implementation of software-specific DRM.

what pegged him wasn't the game, it was the system.

the system which doesn't have the final update.

 

[shem935]

imagn.

woah

 

[Hurley]

Seems like this would be the perfect time for CBOAT to rock up.

-edit- shit he already did

 

[ypo]

Does Penello actually know anything about the product he's reponsible for?

 

[spannicus]

Yesterday guy said he was playing and said the game had a smooth framerate, today he cant do anything? could just be MS locked his shit down, but who knows, I aint scared. Bring on the 22nd bitch.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Now this is weird, so he played offline before but now he can't?

Maybe he was able to play but after 24 hours it locked him out since he cant go online...

hmmmmm

Spoiler

conspiracy theory over

 

[Eusis]

Yeah, I mean I know Microsoft has been one cock up after another, but this just seems... for a game this major? The perception issue alone would be catastrophic.

I trust crazy buttocks, but him just posting "imagine".... I dunno I'm going to say it's too vague to draw any conclusions from because I cannot believe Microsoft or any company would be that dumb.

I'm guessing the functionality's still there, but isn't related to this incident.

Which may not be inherently a bad thing, if I get to skip ahead for something like Elder Scrolls Online and not punch in any code it'd be OK, that's the kind of thing that'd require a key to put in on PS4 anyway.

 

[Lynn616]

PS4 version of Ghosts has offline play.
Xbone version apparently doesn't.

Xbox One version we have no idea if it does or not.

CBOAT can end this right now and just say one version does and one version doesn't.

 

[chubigans]

But he was playing offline before

He was online/logged in via the system, but not in Xbox Live playing a game.

 

[Puppet Shadow]

https://twitter.com/albertpenello/status/399758510923059204

Haha!

Good news, there on it! Nothing to see her... holy crap a massive crash!

 

[Poimandres]

The Walking Dead is about to start

Pretty sure it starts on the 22nd.

 

[Mononoke]

The topic of this thread is wrong. The guy posted on Twitter he didnt know if he could play offline or not. He doesnt know.

Let me clarify something real quick. It's IMO always been common knowledge that either MS or Sony would allow Publishers to make the decision to have their games need an internet connection or not. That it was up to the publishers. I've always thought this was known. So this information isn't that shocking. But what does make it questionable is that we know the PS4 does NOT require online to play.

So that is where you ask, why is it for one system and not the other. And again, that's IF this ends up being true. I trust CBOAT, and my interpretation of his post (and this thread), is that Xbox One's version does require online to play.

EDIT: But it looks like Major Nelson has people looking into this. So it was perhaps just a weird ban/restriction on MS part.

 

[mozfan12]

What is this catastophic situation?

It's 2 weeks before launch. Is the issue that the day one patch isn't ready yet?

No, the issue is that though it might not be system wide DRM, it will be game to game DRM, including the single player portion.

 

[CLEEK]

Does Penello actually know anything about the product he's reponsible for?

no

he's looking into it.

 

[plasmawave]

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/399767172257288192

 

[Foxix Von]

Better to verify than to misspeak.

Given how much this has been a problem for them, yes.

 

[Papercuts]

I will continue to assume he is looking into it because he wants to be extra sure of the answer because of recent mistakes (like the free music streaming mistake thing he made).

I just have to believe this can't be true. It's just too insane at this point.



Jurassic Park combined with something from some other movie I have no clue about.

What are you finding insane? That some publishers can choose to stay online only?

We've seen(dumb) examples of it with Final Fight: Double Impact and Bionic Commando Rearmed 2. The only shit part about that was not knowing ahead of time to not support it.

 

[Boke1879]

Yes.

They better get this sorted within a year.

That fucking long?

I think you know more than you're willing to say so I'll take you be very cautious with this whole situation as a sign that when the Xb1 launches shit will hit the fan.

 

[opticalmace]

But he was playing offline before

With the DRM Microsoft originally announced, I'm pretty sure you could play offline for a bit but had to check in every once in a while (24 hrs?). Someone said he was playing yesterday... and now can't? I dunno though.

But CBOAT's post is concerning.

 

[LCfiner]

This is going to be the most interesting console launch I’ve ever witnessed. Possibly the most controversial, too.

 

[Salex_]

The part with the kids is from Jurassic Park when they are in the car near the T-Rex pen.

Jurassic Park combined with something from some other movie I have no clue about.

Oh damn, I remember the kids now but I was wondering how the asses got there lol.

 

[Pain]

But he was playing offline before

24 hour check in allegedly kicked in.

 

[Finalizer]

Sometimes I hate the way cboat posts. S/he knows their posts carry a lot of weight but still posts one word posts that just lead to more speculation whether right or wrong. It helps no one, because it doesn't answer anything. I want to know if a console I'm spending $500 on will lock me out of games if I don't have an online connection. His/her post has now alluded to this possibility, but does not serve as confirmation leaving us in limbo.

I figure not delving too deep into specifics is what keeps him safe from detection. Though to be perfectly honest I agree, it would be really nice to have some damn specifics on these kinds of things.

Best 'Bone owners can hope for right now is that it's another situation like the indie games thing, where CBOAT might be sitting on outdated/incorrect info. (Assuming the worst-case assumption is the correct one, anyway)

 

[Rhindle]

That's what I'm trying to get at. It no longer is OS enforced by Xbox, but maybe the code required to do this on a game by game basis is still present. It's a publisher decision. Maybe they are providing publishers with a way to do this.

They don't need to "provide publishers with a way to do it." A publisher can require an online check with about 5 lines of code, if they're so inclined.

That's been the case ever since what, the Dreamcast probably?

 

[railGUN]

Maybe MS nuked his system from orbit until the 22nd, which is why he can't play COD or even go to the settings. To me, its either that, or he didn't get proper DRM patch, but I'm surprised DRM patch would lock you out of settings.

 

[viveks86]

I will continue to assume he is looking into it because he wants to be extra sure of the answer because of recent mistakes (like the free music streaming mistake thing he made).

I just have to believe this can't be true. It's just too insane at this point.

This. Guys, let's wait to hear more from Albert or the insiders. No need to go nuclear, yet.

What are you finding insane? That some publishers can choose to stay online only?

I think the difference is between 'can choose to do so' and 'choosing to do so'. The former is known. The latter is insane at this point.

 

[-PXG-]

If MS ruled the world
Imagn that
I'd control all Xbones, I love em love em baby
XBL fanboys and girls
Could it be, if you could
be mine, we'd both be online
If MS ruled the world
Still gaming for today, in
these last days and times

 

[hawk2025]

what pegged him wasn't the game, it was the system.

the system which doesn't have the final update.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

The system may keep tabs on what's happening behind the scenes with respect to the online connection, while the software requires the status to be "checked-in" or not.

Again, **not** saying this is the case at all, but it's also not true that what pegged him wasn't the game. It depends on how the restrictions may or may not have been implemented.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Why wouldn't Activision also do this on the PS4 version? Is it Microsoft's call?

because Sony won't allow it but MS will?

 

[NullPointer]

 

[xBuTcHeRx]

So yes DRM is still hidden somewhere in the console. HA!

 

[Albert Penello]

Better to verify than to misspeak.

This.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

That fucking long?

I think you know more than you're willing to say so I'll take you be very cautious with this whole situation as a sign that when the Xb1 launches shit will hit the fan.

I mean that in a more broad way really. Sony and MSFT have things to fix but MSFT's issues are bigger.

I want to be able to get one without BS.

 

[Steel]

Let me clarify something real quick. It's IMO always been common knowledge that either MS or Sony would allow Publishers to make the decision to have their games need an internet connection or not. That it was up to the publishers. I've always thought this was known. So this information isn't that shocking. But what does make it questionable is that we know the PS4 does NOT require online to play.

So that is where you ask, why is it for one system and not the other. And again, that's IF this ends up being true. I trust CBOAT, and my interpretation of his post (and this thread), is that Xbox One's version does require online to play.

EDIT: But it looks like Major Nelson has people looking into this. So it was perhaps just a weird ban/restriction on MS part.

The PS4 -and- X360 do not require online. I'm still 50% in the camp that it's just an incomplete patch.

 

[Foxix Von]

no

he's looking into it.

To be fair, this would be a problem with Activision requiring an internet connection for Ghosts. Albert has made it very, very clear that he is essentially clueless when it comes to third party dealings.