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COD Ghosts Xbox One offline (2 weeks before launch) not possible without Live?
- Thread starter GribbleGrunger
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Spelling it correctly would cause the thread to explode in a different way.
Why would a set expiration designed to force devs/testers to update to latest code restrict them from being able to update? If his console wasn't Live restricted he could download the new code after the deadline was hit. Since he doesn't have access though he will unfortunately have to wait until the restriction is removed to regain a functional OS.
Reckless Onion
Member
Ah I didn't know that, but waking up to this and just having to read the OP to know what's going on, is amazing.
Software that ships on the current Xbox One production units is essentially a patcher to install the completed OS. It doesn't have DRM to remove, blend, or make cupcakes.
MS is pushing frequent near final OS builds to Xbox Ones that are connected to XBL. It turns out that also included any production unit. Some of those production units end up in the wild early, which in turn get connected to XBL to receive said not final OS. MS realizes what happened (Whoops!) and blocks users from connecting to XBL until the OS is prod ready. OS builds are apparently timebombed due to non-final nature and limits functionality on a short expiry interval (a couple days?).
Makes sense to me.
MS is pushing frequent near final OS builds to Xbox Ones that are connected to XBL. It turns out that also included any production unit. Some of those production units end up in the wild early, which in turn get connected to XBL to receive said not final OS. MS realizes what happened (Whoops!) and blocks users from connecting to XBL until the OS is prod ready. OS builds are apparently timebombed due to non-final nature and limits functionality on a short expiry interval (a couple days?).
Makes sense to me.
SeaOfMadness
Member
Methinks this guy loves his fame (infamy) a little too much.
If he spells out his single word response correctly then MS will totally figure things out!
(honestly don't listen to this guy CBOAT. Don't care how cryptic you make your words, your truth is a big part of GAF.)
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I usually put a fair bit of trust behind CBOAT but this one is a stretch at best I'll agree, but conversely his last post before today said he'd not be back till after launch... So that raises my suspicion meter to a rather high level that something is afoot here beyond that which we are being told.
Im with you. But his post in this thread added no real info except to stir up the pot.
Cboat posts are fun and deciphering them is part of the fun.
He has real info which has been proven throughout his posting career.
From the start it's been clear that his motive is to get real information into the minds of gamers, whether or not he enjoys the attention is irrelevant (who wouldn't).
Agreed. But what info did "imagn" bring us?
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
It's the Lysine Contingency, in case an Xbox One escaped into the wild.
Seems to have worked pretty well since 150 escaped, but only one managed to go on a brief rampage through San Diego.
Fair enough, although it can be taken that he was verifying another users post ........ which added something while increasing the madness.
Yeah! That's really good, really good! Why MS let him to play COD offline at least, god damn.
IMO it would be stupid of MS to even address every ridiculous negative rumour thrown at them. Their policy has been pretty clear on the 180... this thread is a bunch of people jumping on anything related to new gen news because we're at the excitement point of launch.
You guys... the 24-hr check is still in the Xbox ONE. It has to be. Nothing else is adding up.
I read the entire thread up to this point. Guy plays COD Ghosts online, gets banned from Live temporarily, can still play Ghosts in SP campaign. Then, 24 hrs later, his console is essentially bricked.
We then have a poster who posted a picture of the back of the PS4 box for Ghosts, and it specifically says "Offline Play Enabled". So far, it's the only PS4 game to have that specific labeling. Amirox then posts a picture of the ONE's box for Ghosts, and it doesn't even have labels regarding resolution, let alone any labels regarding offline SP.
Skip a few pages, then Albert Penello posts this:
Regarding the bolded: it makes sense, yet it doesn't. Microsoft is sending out periodic updates to the OS because it's apparently still very barebones at this point. Yet, updates are usually a one-time thing, and when you don't update, you device usually doesn't turn into a brick. Instead, it seems these builds have time limits... in this case, a 24 hr time limit, apparently.
Penello then says that the day one update doesn't remove the DRM, because none came installed within the ONE. But everything we've heard prior to that suggests otherwise. Even the Kotaku update that someone posted suggests that the update is needed for offline gaming, which was a major restriction of the DRM originally.
Nothing else adds up. Why else put such a short expiration date on an OS build? Why specifically label the PS4 version of Ghosts as being "offline enabled"? Why is that person's console bricked after his build "expired"? Why is the OS so barebones that MS needs to update it so frequently?
Idk... this might be wrong, but that's the conclusion my mind came to. The answers Penello provided do not add up at all.
Also, CBoaT would not post here for no damn reason. Something's up, and this seems to be it...
I read the entire thread up to this point. Guy plays COD Ghosts online, gets banned from Live temporarily, can still play Ghosts in SP campaign. Then, 24 hrs later, his console is essentially bricked.
We then have a poster who posted a picture of the back of the PS4 box for Ghosts, and it specifically says "Offline Play Enabled". So far, it's the only PS4 game to have that specific labeling. Amirox then posts a picture of the ONE's box for Ghosts, and it doesn't even have labels regarding resolution, let alone any labels regarding offline SP.
Skip a few pages, then Albert Penello posts this:
Regarding the bolded: it makes sense, yet it doesn't. Microsoft is sending out periodic updates to the OS because it's apparently still very barebones at this point. Yet, updates are usually a one-time thing, and when you don't update, you device usually doesn't turn into a brick. Instead, it seems these builds have time limits... in this case, a 24 hr time limit, apparently.
Penello then says that the day one update doesn't remove the DRM, because none came installed within the ONE. But everything we've heard prior to that suggests otherwise. Even the Kotaku update that someone posted suggests that the update is needed for offline gaming, which was a major restriction of the DRM originally.
Nothing else adds up. Why else put such a short expiration date on an OS build? Why specifically label the PS4 version of Ghosts as being "offline enabled"? Why is that person's console bricked after his build "expired"? Why is the OS so barebones that MS needs to update it so frequently?
Idk... this might be wrong, but that's the conclusion my mind came to. The answers Penello provided do not add up at all.
Also, CBoaT would not post here for no damn reason. Something's up, and this seems to be it...
So you want them to punish him more?
SRTtoZ
Member
Yes because Sony made the box.
You're wrong.
SRTtoZ
Member
I think he was just agreeing with the guy who said software DRM is a thing, which it is, and probably always will be. Not everything cboat says has to be a megaton.
NintendoRev
Member
That, or he just wants to push buttons because everyone's been so on edge lately. Either way, the boat has said a thing!
Or you know...weekly builds and all that. His console ceased functionality on a Sunday afternoon. New build is up for the crew to have a go at on Monday morning.
It's probably the one-armed man though.
Follow the money
viveks86
Member
Explain it to me then. All this shit is way too suspicious for nothing to be wrong at all...
It's been explained very clearly in the past two pages. There's nothing suspicious- its just a case of accidental shipment which has us peeking behind the curtain.
I do remember MS saying that we will need the day 1 patch to be able to play offline. Now we being told otherwise? I am a little confused.
That just doesn't mesh with his post history and Alberts narrative about OS issues and the patch not effecting the DRM because it was never there doesn't match the narrative that is corporate handlers have laid out either.
viveks86
Member
Explanation riddle: It sits right above you, but it isn't a hat. What is it?
andromeduck
Member
So you've failed to get a gaming console running on time then. That is sad.
NintendoRev
Member
You're jumping to conclusions based on an unfinished nightly software update issued before the actual console release date. Calm down until the 22nd. If the consoles all catch fire on day 1, you can totally freak out then! =D
rain elbows
Member
My question is - wouldn't this type of testing be done via Partnernet or a test instance of XBL, and the pre-patched OS wouldn't have been pushed out to the retail environment? That is the part that seems strange here.
They had this plan in June- basically to ship without a final OS. Thats the big issue here, IMHO- but this was known already.
deputyspade
Member
It doesn't really answer all the questions people have. I notice you are answering quite a few questions in this thread. Do you have an xb1 in your possession? How are you qualified to answer all these questions with certainty?
SRTtoZ
Member
He's not. He's guessing just as much as jWILL253 is. No one really knows and probably won't know unless there's some leak or until release day.
Not qualified at all, won't have one til titanfall. But my answers- right or wrong- make more sense (and are backed by actual comments by penello) than the conspiracy stuff that's being thrown around.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I don't think it's that simple. He never had a finished or proper day one update to begin with. He has a version of the OS clearly not suitable for official launch. It isn't really Microsoft's fault he got the system early before they were ready to push out their release day build of the OS. Launch day is the 22nd.
And naturally once he got banned from xbox live, that excluded him from getting the new updates. This is the risk of getting something before it's actually meant to be released. If this issue persists come launch day, then, and only then, will we have a problem. Anyway, off to work! Being on call blows sometimes.
googleplex
Member
At this point, with all the information and Microsoft history of trying to screw their customers at every turn. Anyone still buying an Xbone should be well aware of what their getting and what type of ecosystem their buying into.
