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[Amibguous Cad]

Who will beat us? It was predicted that we went 13-1, with our only loss coming from Oklahoma State. We beat them. There isn't anyone else left on our schedule that we will lose to. Houston will go undefeated and go to the BCS.

A lot can happen. Any given Sunday and all that...

I don't doubt that you're better than any team on your schedule, but in order to be undefeated you not only have to be better than any team on your schedule, you have to be good enough to beat a few teams even when you're playing poorly and they're playing spectacularly.

One poor half against a good opponent can ruin a perfect season. Just ask last year's Texas' team.

 

[mYm|17|]

Walter Thurmond III is done for the year. Man this freaking sucks big time, he was teh best kick returner and corner on the Ducks

 

[Kevtones]

Dammit FUCK

 

[pxleyes]

Who will beat us? It was predicted that we went 13-1, with our only loss coming from Oklahoma State. We beat them. There isn't anyone else left on our schedule that we will lose to. Houston will go undefeated and go to the BCS.

And this is why I hate mid-majors. Listen, that's great, you go undefeated against a bunch of shit teams. That doesn't mean you should get to play with the best teams in the nation.

edit: Yes, CUSA is that bad.

 

[Cyan]

Walter Thurmond III is done for the year. Man this freaking sucks big time, he was teh best kick returner and corner on the Ducks

Yeah, heard this earlier. Sucks, great player.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

And this is why I hate mid-majors. Listen, that's great, you go undefeated against a bunch of shit teams. That doesn't mean you should get to play with the best teams in the nation.

edit: Yes, CUSA is that bad.

To be fair, the mid-majors that have made it to BCS games have done pretty damn well. They're, what, 3-2 in BCS bowls?

 

[pxleyes]

To be fair, the mid-majors that have made it to BCS games have done pretty damn well. They're, what, 3-2 in BCS bowls?

At the end of the day, I see a huge divide of hypocrisy though. People are berating Florida for it's schedule, which is hardly a cake walk, and then people give a pass to little ol' Houston because "aww, how cute, they are winning." Let's just flip the schedules and call it even. I'll take Houston's joke of a schedule any day over UF's yearly gauntlet. BCS every year.

 

[Westonian]

And this is why I hate mid-majors. Listen, that's great, you go undefeated against a bunch of shit teams. That doesn't mean you should get to play with the best teams in the nation.

edit: Yes, CUSA is that bad.

The question isn't even whether they should get a bid to the national championship based on their resume, because no one I think is arguing that.

A playoff would allow them to earn their way to an NC game by virtue of beating the best of the best teams on the field, instead of hypothetical analysis by poll voters that have obviously shown a tenuous grasp of logic this year.

Boise St and Utah have proven that best Mid-major teams can compete with the best of the BCS conferences. Top to bottom, conferences like the Big 12 and SEC are much better than lesser conferences, but there is parity at the top in most years.

 

[dskillzhtown]

At the end of the day, I see a huge divide of hypocrisy though. People are berating Florida for it's schedule, which is hardly a cake walk, and then people give a pass to little ol' Houston because "aww, how cute, they are winning." Let's just flip the schedules and call it even. I'll take Houston's joke of a schedule any day over UF's yearly gauntlet. BCS every year.

Not like Tech and OK State were pushovers. The system isn't the best, but the record is the only thing there is to go by. If a mid-major plays BCS-level competition in addition to it's conference schedule and goes undefeated, that is what we have to go by.

How is that any different than someone in a top-heavy BCS conference, playing 2 good teams all year and going to a BCS bowl? No one is saying a mid-major should be in the national championship, but I do think an invite to a BCS bowl is not outrageous.

 

[Cyan]

At the end of the day, I see a huge divide of hypocrisy though. People are berating Florida for it's schedule, which is hardly a cake walk, and then people give a pass to little ol' Houston because "aww, how cute, they are winning."

The difference is that Houston doesn't have any shot at the MNC game, whereas Florida is pretty much in. So it's safe to not criticize Houston; they don't have a shot anyway.

The other difference is that on the OOC portion of Houston's schedule, i.e. the portion they have more control over, they're playing difficult teams. On the OOC portion of Florida's schedule, they're basically playing Houston's in-conference schedule.

Also, four road games. FFS.

 

[Vyer]

At the end of the day, I see a huge divide of hypocrisy though. People are berating Florida for it's schedule, which is hardly a cake walk, and then people give a pass to little ol' Houston because "aww, how cute, they are winning." Let's just flip the schedules and call it even. I'll take Houston's joke of a schedule any day over UF's yearly gauntlet. BCS every year.

No one is giving a pass to anyone. 'at the end of the day', Florida will probably play for a championship. That more than balances out.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Boise St. is the mid-major shoe in for a BCS bowl, not UH or TCU. Even though Boise States only "big" victory would be against Oregon, they were ranked ahead of both pre-season. Although beating Texas Tech/Okie St or beating Utah/BYU is more impressive.

 

[pxleyes]

No one is giving a pass to anyone. 'at the end of the day', Florida will probably play for a championship. That more than balances out.

As we all know, that works fine until the day a Houston, or whomever does go undefeated in a lackluster year and then the argument WILL start of whether they deserve to be in the MNC. You guys are passing it off only because it hasn't happened.

The difference is that Houston doesn't have any shot at the MNC game, whereas Florida is pretty much in. So it's safe to not criticize Houston; they don't have a shot anyway.

The other difference is that on the OOC portion of Houston's schedule, i.e. the portion they have more control over, they're playing difficult teams. On the OOC portion of Florida's schedule, they're basically playing Houston's in-conference schedule.

Also, four road games. FFS.

So Houston's 2-3 hard OOC games is supposed to make up for the 7-8 hard games UF generally plays in a year? Riiiight. Let's do the math...

Cyan, I have 7 home tickets. Let me know when that is uncommon.

 

[LosDaddie]

Holy fuck! There are people out there that do this? How fucking stupid do you have to be? I don't even lift regularly and have never had someone show me the 'proper way', but apparently the most intuitive, sense-of-self-preservation-imposed method I've always usede is the correct way. Who'd a thunk it?

It seems common in my gym. Don't know why either.

I always thought to myself: "Dude...what if the bar slips and crushes your fucking chest & throat?"

 

[Cyan]

So Houston's 2-3 hard OOC games is supposed to make up for the 7-8 hard games UF generally plays in a year? Riiiight. Let's do the math...

Of course Houston has a weaker schedule. They're in C-USA. The point is that Florida schedules wussily. That's what they're criticized for.

And hang on a minute. When's the last time UF actually had 7-8 hard games on their schedule? With 3 OOC cupcakes every year (+ a sometimes good FSU), that leaves 8-9 games. Really? 7-8 of those are hard games?

Cyan, I have 7 home tickets. Let me know when that is uncommon.

We have that occasionally, but not every year. And neutral site doesn't count as a road game!

 

[Limedust]

It seems common in my gym. Don't know why either.

I always thought to myself: "Dude...what if the bar slips and crushes your fucking chest & throat?"

I'm not defending the method, but many lifters don't wrap their thumb around the bar because the alternate method puts less stress on the wrist and hands in general (the weight sits on the heel of the hand, and not across it). I do this, knowing full well the consequences, but I am not lifting anywhere near the weight and I am conscience of my posture. When I wrap the thumb around, my right hand usually hurts for the rest of the week from the way the weight sits during the press.

Just sayin'.

 

[StoOgE]

Who will beat us? It was predicted that we went 13-1, with our only loss coming from Oklahoma State. We beat them. There isn't anyone else left on our schedule that we will lose to. Houston will go undefeated and go to the BCS.

Bishman,

you have a couple of problems here.

1. You *should* win the rest of your games. USC should have beaten Washington, Texas should have beaten Tech last year, OU should have beaten Boise St in the Fiesta Bowl a few years ago. A lot of things should happen, doesn't mean they do.

2. Boise St has an easier schedule than Houston does, and they are currently ranked 5th in the country. Sadly for you, the BCS is only required to take the top ranked non-BCS team (unless UH gets up to number 4 in the country somehow).

Even if UH is ranked 6th in the country, you will not go to a BCS game if Boise St is still ranked ahead of you. A BCS bowl would glady take a 12th ranked Ohio State team over a 6th ranked UH team. Fair or not, that's how it works.

 

[Kevtones]

UF's schedule is a joke this year.

 

[WedgeX]

I get to go to the Michigan vs. Michigan State game this year, yay! (while working concessions...)

Although I will be wearing Green, my loyalty will always be with Blue.

 

[desh]

So Houston's 2-3 hard OOC games is supposed to make up for the 7-8 hard games UF generally plays in a year? Riiiight. Let's do the math...

What are the 7-8 hard games on Florida's schedule this year? Are you including the SEC championship game?

 

[Amibguous Cad]

2. Boise St has an easier schedule than Houston does, and they are currently ranked 5th in the country. Sadly for you, the BCS is only required to take the top ranked non-BCS team (unless UH gets up to number 4 in the country somehow).

Even if UH is ranked 6th in the country, you will not go to a BCS game if Boise St is still ranked ahead of you. A BCS bowl would glady take a 12th ranked Ohio State team over a 6th ranked UH team. Fair or not, that's how it works.

This, especially, is really disappointing. I don't know much about their respective schedules, but assuming that C-USA = WAC, I think Houston's done better on the field than Boise. But Boise will get the one mid-major BCS bid if they run the table since they were ranked higher in the preseason.

 

[KittyKittyBangBang]

At the end of the day, I see a huge divide of hypocrisy though. People are berating Florida for it's schedule, which is hardly a cake walk, and then people give a pass to little ol' Houston because "aww, how cute, they are winning." Let's just flip the schedules and call it even. I'll take Houston's joke of a schedule any day over UF's yearly gauntlet. BCS every year.

Its not their schedule, its there OOC schedule. They play in the SEC, so there schedule is going to be decent, but they have no control over there conf schedule. There OOC schedule is fucking disgraceful though, How the hell do you call yourself a top team when you CHOOSE to play Charleston Southern, Florida International, and Troy?

but its not just UF, the entire SEC is a contributor to this for the most part. I give Kudos to Tenn for taking a home and home with UCLA, even though UT lost both games, most SEC teams wont travel 10 minutes outside there own zip code for a OOC game.

Pac-10 does it right, USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, etc, They NEVER schedule FCS schools and always do home and homes.

 

[KittyKittyBangBang]

This, especially, is really disappointing. I don't know much about their respective schedules, but assuming that C-USA = WAC, I think Houston's done better on the field than Boise. But Boise will get the one mid-major BCS bid if they run the table since they were ranked higher in the preseason.

Then you will be happy to hear that Boise St has a real tough test week against...UC Davis....

 

[Slo]

MrBob!?!?! WHERE YOU AT, COWARD? We're comin' for ya! WE'RE COMIN'!

 

[Sirpopopop]

MrBob!?!?! WHERE YOU AT, COWARD? We're comin' for ya! WE'RE COMIN'!

Percy Harvin is a man for all occasions.

 

[KittyKittyBangBang]

Percy Harvin is a man for all occasions.

Dude is doing a lot better than I expected in Minnesota, I figured he would do KR and little else.

 

[Lonestar]

Its not their schedule, its there OOC schedule. They play in the SEC, so there schedule is going to be decent, but they have no control over there conf schedule. There OOC schedule is fucking disgraceful though, How the hell do you call yourself a top team when you CHOOSE to play Charleston Southern, Florida International, and Troy?

but its not just UF, the entire SEC is a contributor to this for the most part. I give Kudos to Tenn for taking a home and home with UCLA, even though UT lost both games, most SEC teams wont travel 10 minutes outside there own zip code for a OOC game.

Pac-10 does it right, USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, etc, They NEVER schedule FCS schools and always do home and homes.

We've already gone over this, and it's not a factual statement.

Atlanta is not 10 minutes outside of my zipcode

Auburn just finished a home and home with WVU, and had the USC series earlier in the decade.
Georgia just finished one with Arizona St. (and plays GT every year)
Alabama has played FSU, Clemson, then VT in the last 3 years. They have a home and home coming up next 2 years against Penn State. For some reason, Bama is going to play AT Duke next year. Not to mention home and homes against UCLA, Oklahoma, and Hawaii in the last decade. Played Houston a couple years back.
Arkansas with games against USC and Texas.
Florida has that whole Florida St, and occasionally Miami, game.

The rest of the teams, well, I don't know who they play and don't care

At times, recently, I don't know who is a 100% patsy team anymore. Ole Miss being highly ranked, Miss State showing life against LSU, Vandy going to bowl games, Kentucky ...Kentucky...is Blue.

I guess all the OOC games should be middle tier Big 10/Big 12/Pac 10 teams, right?

Why not just combine the big 4 into a super conference, play 20 games a year, and call it a day?

 

[desh]

Pac-10 does it right, USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, etc, They NEVER schedule FCS schools and always do home and homes.

I agree with your sentiment, but Oregon State usually schedules one FCS school every year; they've played 7 FCS opponents in the last 10 years.

Pac-10 FCS opponents from 2000-2009:

USC - 0
UCLA - 0
Washington - 0
Stanford - 1
Oregon - 3
California - 3
Washington State - 4
Arizona State - 5
Arizona - 6
Oregon State - 7

So really, only USC, UCLA, and Washington are immune to criticism regarding scheduling FCS opponents in the last decade.

 

[StoOgE]

This, especially, is really disappointing. I don't know much about their respective schedules, but assuming that C-USA = WAC, I think Houston's done better on the field than Boise. But Boise will get the one mid-major BCS bid if they run the table since they were ranked higher in the preseason.

Houston also has a few other things working against it.

They have been bad for a long time. Boise St on the other hand is already an "accepted" mid major. Like Utah, TCU and BYU. Houston will have to pull this off for 3-4 years to be considered a "good program" and not a 'fluke team'.

It's hard to say that Houston has really done more this year than Boise St though. Oklahoma St was a higher ranked opponent, but it's looking more and more like Okie St was overrated. Tech is now a .500 team. We'll have to see how their season works out, but the locker room has turned on Leach. They could wind up looking pretty bad when all is said and done.

That said, Boise St barely beat Fresno St. While Fresno is an "accepted" mid major team, they have fallen off in the last few years.

Oregon's trouncing of Cal is really helping Boise right now. If Oregon had simply fallen apart they would be sitting a lot prettier...

you also have TCU to compete with this year. They probably have a schedule about as tough as Houstons was.

But still, we are in week 4. It is way to early to project anything. All of these teams could drop games... or Notre Dame could rear it's ugly head. They are a non-BCS school as well. They could wind up playing spoiler based on their stupid helmets alone.

 

[NewLib]

Kentucky, Miss St, Arkansas, Vandy, and UT this year are fairly patsy. They might not be "dont show up and still win easily" but I dont see a huge difference between them and Washington, UCLA, Arizona State, and Oregon State. I mean no one is WSU bad, but the Pac 10 might have a better middle and bottom of the conference than the SEC.

 

[pxleyes]

Its not their schedule, its there OOC schedule. They play in the SEC, so there schedule is going to be decent, but they have no control over there conf schedule. There OOC schedule is fucking disgraceful though, How the hell do you call yourself a top team when you CHOOSE to play Charleston Southern, Florida International, and Troy?

but its not just UF, the entire SEC is a contributor to this for the most part. I give Kudos to Tenn for taking a home and home with UCLA, even though UT lost both games, most SEC teams wont travel 10 minutes outside there own zip code for a OOC game.

Pac-10 does it right, USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, etc, They NEVER schedule FCS schools and always do home and homes.

Why shouldn't it be? If you are giving so much credit to the SEC for creating a tough slate year in and year out, it isn't exactly a stretch to assume we will balance that out with some easier games in our OOC schedule. That really is besides the point of why we schedule how we do though, since in 06 we had just as many "patsies" as we always do in our OOC and still ended up with the #1 hardest schedule at the end of the year. I appreciate the concern, but until our schedule ranks in the bottom 10 in difficulty I don't think you have much to complain about.

As many a Gator has discussed on occasion here, we schedule how we do for monetary reasons. Our schedule, with the neutral site, strains our budget apparently. Rankly I don't know the numbers, but suffice to say we plan our schedule around making sure to break even or turn a profit. The games where can pay out a small sum to a school and turn around and sell that many tickets, you're going to do whats right for the program.

 

[NewLib]

I dont want to start a Conference War, but I kept hearing in the off season that it was SEC and Big 12 then a big gap. Is that true? Big 12 seems pretty down this year. Hell I have a hard time arguing it that much better than the Pac 10. The bottom 6 teams in the Big 12 are pretty awful.

 

[pxleyes]

I dont want to start a Conference War, but I kept hearing in the off season that it was SEC and Big 12 then a big gap. Is that true? Big 12 seems pretty down this year. Hell I have a hard time arguing it that much better than the Pac 10. The bottom 6 teams in the Big 12 are pretty awful.

Parity is at an all time high this year. There really is little gap to speak of because each conference can point to a decent "contender" and yet they have 2-3 complete disappoints a piece too.

 

[StoOgE]

I dont want to start a Conference War, but I kept hearing in the off season that it was SEC and Big 12 then a big gap. Is that true? Big 12 seems pretty down this year. Hell I have a hard time arguing it that much better than the Pac 10. The bottom 6 teams in the Big 12 are pretty awful.

Well, Bradford being hurt was unexpected (though, OUs offensive line having issues should have been predicted but was not).

Okie St was way way way too high in the list for a team without a defense.

But on the other hand, the Big 12 North has actually stepped up and become half-decent teams.

 

[Bowser]

At least the Heels get FCS-worthy UVA at home this week, followed by Georgia Southern. Should be 5-1 going into the pivotal game against Florida St. Oct 22nd.

 

[jjasper]

but its not just UF, the entire SEC is a contributor to this for the most part. I give Kudos to Tenn for taking a home and home with UCLA, even though UT lost both games, most SEC teams wont travel 10 minutes outside there own zip code for a OOC game.

We head out west again in 2013 for Oregon followed by going back to LA sometime in the 2020 range.

Jesus I forgot how god awful the Auburn game was last year, specifically the 4th quarter:
AUB (own 20) 4 plays, punt
TEN (opp 38) 3 and out
AUB (own 11) 3 and out
TEN (own 43) 3 and out
AUB (own 20) 3 and out
TEN (opp 46) 3 and out
AUB (own 20) 3 and out
TEN (own 46) 3 and out
AUB (own 5) one first down, time expires

smh.

 

[Bishman]

Oregon beat the shit out of Cal, BYU beat Oklahoma, South Florida beat FSU, Iowa beat Penn State, LSU needed a goalline stand to beat Mississippi State. Anything can happen. To say that Houston will go 14-0 after 3 games is crazy.

Have you forgotten Marshall last year? What about Rice? Anything can happen. I would love it if Houston went undefeated, but the realist in me is saying the odds are that it won't happen. Southern Miss is playing good ball so far this season also. Take away that disaster in Oklahoma and Tulsa is playing well. Anyone can lose.

I am all for confidence in a sports discussion, but let's keep it in the realistic, anything can happen. Do you think that Houston is so good that they can avoid the upset bug when all these other programs haven't been able to?

We already beat the hardest teams on our schedule and we should win the rest if we keep playing the way we do. I know anything can happen but I am being optimistic. There is no one I fear left in our schedule that will beat us.

A lot can happen. Any given Sunday and all that...

I don't doubt that you're better than any team on your schedule, but in order to be undefeated you not only have to be better than any team on your schedule, you have to be good enough to beat a few teams even when you're playing poorly and they're playing spectacularly.

One poor half against a good opponent can ruin a perfect season. Just ask last year's Texas' team.

Very true but I think we can do it. We will see.

And this is why I hate mid-majors. Listen, that's great, you go undefeated against a bunch of shit teams. That doesn't mean you should get to play with the best teams in the nation.

edit: Yes, CUSA is that bad.

Houston has beat a lot of good teams this year. And it isn't our fault that better teams are sliding down the top 25 rankings and we are moving up the rankings.

Bishman,

you have a couple of problems here.

1. You *should* win the rest of your games. USC should have beaten Washington, Texas should have beaten Tech last year, OU should have beaten Boise St in the Fiesta Bowl a few years ago. A lot of things should happen, doesn't mean they do.

2. Boise St has an easier schedule than Houston does, and they are currently ranked 5th in the country. Sadly for you, the BCS is only required to take the top ranked non-BCS team (unless UH gets up to number 4 in the country somehow).

Even if UH is ranked 6th in the country, you will not go to a BCS game if Boise St is still ranked ahead of you. A BCS bowl would glady take a 12th ranked Ohio State team over a 6th ranked UH team. Fair or not, that's how it works.

I hate how the system works. We can all agree that Houston has the better resume than Boise St and TCU. I'll be keeping an eye on Boise St's games hoping that they lose! :lol

 

[JCX]

I get to go to the Michigan vs. Michigan State game this year, yay! (while working concessions...)

Although I will be wearing Green, my loyalty will always be with Blue.

ewww

I'm trying to choose between getting there really early so I can be on disappointment-cam or just tailgating so the whole experience is less painful.

 

[iamblades]

Holy fuck! There are people out there that do this? How fucking stupid do you have to be? I don't even lift regularly and have never had someone show me the 'proper way', but apparently the most intuitive, sense-of-self-preservation-imposed method I've always usede is the correct way. Who'd a thunk it?

The issue is people don't like the thumb pain when starting out, so they find away to adjust to it if no one is around to teach them better.

It may feel like your thumbs are going to rip off, but they won't, and before long your body will adapt and your grip will be so strong that it doesn't hurt at all anymore.

Those kinds of shortcuts are the reason you see all the guys that are completely reliant on straps lifting even moderate weight.

 

[AntoneM]

I agree with your sentiment, but Oregon State usually schedules one FCS school every year; they've played 7 FCS opponents in the last 10 years.

Pac-10 FCS opponents from 2000-2009:

USC - 0
UCLA - 0
Washington - 0
Stanford - 1
Oregon - 3
California - 3
Washington State - 4
Arizona State - 5
Arizona - 6
Oregon State - 7

So really, only USC, UCLA, and Washington are immune to criticism regarding scheduling FCS opponents in the last decade.

To be fair, only one of ASU's FCS games has been by choice, the other ones have been against Northern Arizona which is mandated by the legislature. We get them one year, then UA gets them the next or something. So, by choice ASU has only scheduled 1 FCS school since 2000.

 

[desh]

To be fair, only one of ASU's FCS games has been by choice, the other ones have been against Northern Arizona which is mandated by the legislature. We get them one year, then UA gets them the next or something. So, by choice ASU has only scheduled 1 FCS school since 2000.

I did not know that. I wonder if Oregon and Oregon state have something similar going on with Portland State.

 

[Kevtones]

The Pac 10 has a winning record against the SEC since 2000. Just saying.

 

[Jay Sosa]

Boob Stoops on Sam Bradford:

"In the end, it's not my job to force a guy to come out. It's my job to educate my players on all the possibilities and then it's up to the individual and his family to make that decision."

Ha! I knew it!

 

[Mac the KNife]

ewww

I'm trying to choose between getting there really early so I can be on disappointment-cam or just tailgating so the whole experience is less painful.

I'll probably be up there tailgating myself, I just need to figure out where I'm going to watch the game. The bars are going to be loaded.

 

[bluemax]

As we all know, that works fine until the day a Houston, or whomever does go undefeated in a lackluster year and then the argument WILL start of whether they deserve to be in the MNC. You guys are passing it off only because it hasn't happened.


So Houston's 2-3 hard OOC games is supposed to make up for the 7-8 hard games UF generally plays in a year? Riiiight. Let's do the math...

Cyan, I have 7 home tickets. Let me know when that is uncommon.

C'mon man 7-8 hard games a year? Really? With SEC conference scheduling UF is lucky (or unlucky) to play more than 2 of the other good teams in its bloated ass conference in any given year.

You play LSU and Georgia this year! That's it! 2 good teams! You don't even play the best team in your conference (Alabama) until the SEC CG! What kind of bull shit is that?

And even if I renege and say that SCAR and Arkansas are decent that's still only 4 good teams on your schedule and you're still missing 2 of the top 4 teams in your conference in Alabama and Ole Miss.

Not only that you only have 1, ONE, tough road game: LSU. And they're probably the most over rated team in the country right now. And don't give me that neutral site bull shit. What if USC and Cal opted to play at a neutral site like the Rose Bowl. Would I be justified in counting that as a road game? I mean it's not our stadium! And with traffic it is at least an hour away!

Stop living in denial man. We'll still be your friend after you admit that Florida has the biggest joke schedule of any BCS contender.

What if USC got away with not playing Oregon and Cal every year? Or Texas got to skip Oklahoma and Oklahoma St or whatever every year?

 

[desh]

The Pac 10 has a winning record against the SEC since 2000. Just saying.

West is the Best

Since the 2000 season, the Pac-10 has the best record in games against the other Bowl Championship Series conferences (81-62, a .566 winning percentage). The Pac-10 also has a .500-or-better record during this period against each of the other five major conferences.

 

[Ezduo]

We head out west again in 2013 for Oregon followed by going back to LA sometime in the 2020 range.

Jesus I forgot how god awful the Auburn game was last year, specifically the 4th quarter:
AUB (own 20) 4 plays, punt
TEN (opp 38) 3 and out
AUB (own 11) 3 and out
TEN (own 43) 3 and out
AUB (own 20) 3 and out
TEN (opp 46) 3 and out
AUB (own 20) 3 and out
TEN (own 46) 3 and out
AUB (own 5) one first down, time expires

smh.

SEC defense.

 

[Karakand]

Kentucky, Miss St, Arkansas, Vandy, and UT this year are fairly patsy. They might not be "dont show up and still win easily" but I dont see a huge difference between them and Washington, UCLA, Arizona State, and Oregon State.

rofl

 

[Karakand]

You play LSU and Georgia this year! That's it! 2 good teams!

I see 0.

 

[krzy123]

West is the Best

Here it is by # of games played / # of teams in the conf

So it goes like this:

1. Big East (19-20 games per team)
2. ACC (17.25)
3. Big Ten (16.09)
4. SEC (14.833)
5. PAC-10 (14.3)
6. Big 12 (13.8)