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Comic book character with the best Rogue's Gallery
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i KNOW, I'M SORRY. LOW BLOOD SUGAR TODAY........
BenjaminBirdie
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Foob said:
Ok, yeah. Grodd is cool.
Mangoverboard
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Batman
Spiderman
Superman
X-Men
FF (Purely for Doom)
and I have a soft spot for Green Lantern villains, some of them are just awesome.
Spiderman
Superman
X-Men
FF (Purely for Doom)
and I have a soft spot for Green Lantern villains, some of them are just awesome.
Sho_Nuff82
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Honorable Mention:
Batman
Xmen
Fantastic Four (on top of Doom/Galactus, they also had The Skrulls, Annihilus, Red Ghost & the Super Apes, and Moleman)
Megadragon15
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Fawcett Comic's 1940-1953 Captain Marvel (not the one that was integrated into the DC Universe in 1973). He had the Monster Society of Evil and Black Adam (before he died of old age in his one and only Golden Age appearance).
Littleberu
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Looks like this thread as become a "Which villains is more integrated in popular culture?"
Batman villains are as bad as Flash's. A man who flips a coin? A guy who looks like a penguin? A clown? A midget who loves Alice in Wonderland? A guy who does riddles? They are obscenely boring to boot. Now, because pop-culture used them and made something interesting out of them, they are now cool villain. I mean, just look at the 60's series of Batman to see how bad these villains were.
Now Johns is doing something with the Rogues in Flash, he's doing something interesting at least. He's taking these characters, these stupid two dimensional characters, and making them look somewhat threatening when they all gang up together. And it's not all about the treat, either. A villain shouldn't always be physically threatening to the hero, but to the population. I think it's interesting when a villain doesn't always go after the hero, like Tom and Jerry.
Batman villains are as bad as Flash's. A man who flips a coin? A guy who looks like a penguin? A clown? A midget who loves Alice in Wonderland? A guy who does riddles? They are obscenely boring to boot. Now, because pop-culture used them and made something interesting out of them, they are now cool villain. I mean, just look at the 60's series of Batman to see how bad these villains were.
Now Johns is doing something with the Rogues in Flash, he's doing something interesting at least. He's taking these characters, these stupid two dimensional characters, and making them look somewhat threatening when they all gang up together. And it's not all about the treat, either. A villain shouldn't always be physically threatening to the hero, but to the population. I think it's interesting when a villain doesn't always go after the hero, like Tom and Jerry.
Batman and Wolverine as far as mainstream ones go.
I like some graphic novels, but most of what I enjoy aren't really long running or super hero types. Most villains are not terribly interesting. I like the trash that The Punisher has to deal with (obviously not supervillains, though).
I like some graphic novels, but most of what I enjoy aren't really long running or super hero types. Most villains are not terribly interesting. I like the trash that The Punisher has to deal with (obviously not supervillains, though).
It seems like for the most part villains don't actually target the hero unless its a gang-up group formed specifically in hopes of taking out their nemesis. Most are crooks or crime lords, or psychopaths that cross swords with the hero only because he's all up in their Kool-Aid.Littleberu said:
MisterHero
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Superman.
Just because Darkseid is an enemy of the entire DC Universe does not make him a Batman villain, you know. ;p
Also, Doomsday, Lex Luthor, General Zod, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Lobo, Darkseid's minions, Parasite, Brainiac, Bizarro, Metallo, Cyborg Superman, Mongul
and best of all, Superboy-Prime
Just because Darkseid is an enemy of the entire DC Universe does not make him a Batman villain, you know. ;p
Also, Doomsday, Lex Luthor, General Zod, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Lobo, Darkseid's minions, Parasite, Brainiac, Bizarro, Metallo, Cyborg Superman, Mongul
and best of all, Superboy-Prime
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Littleberu
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Dali said:
That would be true for most of their first appearance but Spiderman villains, for example, are only used these days to make his life horrible.
Recently, Batman has been his own villain, but before that, before Infinite Crisis, it seems everyone in Arkham was trying to get a piece out of him.
Anyway, yeah. I was specifically referring to Spiderman and Superman in that case.
krypt0nian
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Only Batman and Spidety are possible contenders.
PhoncipleBone
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DennisK4 said:Fantastic Four. Why? Because
For single best villain: yes, Fantastic Four wins because of Doom.
But the rest of their rogues gallery is not as great. Galactus is awesome, but I see him more as a Silver Surfer bad guy. But Doom trumps all answers for SINGLE best villain.
But for an entire rogues gallery, Batman and Spider Man have the greatest number of great villains.
quickwhips
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Batman is the only answer here? Everyone else looks week in comparision to such great characters. Even the shitty ones look better than spidermans. BTW I like spiderman the character better than batman but rogue gallery batman always wins.
BenjaminBirdie
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Littleberu said:
So wrong. They are amazing because they work well with a man who has no powers. Flash's are so lame because he himself has potentially the coolest powers ever. He is faster than ANYTHING and his rogues are about as fast as mud.
Ugh, so fucking terrible on every level. God. I hate them.
TestMonkey
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For mainstream I have to vote Spiderman.
For indie I'd say 1000 Bullets.
For indie I'd say 1000 Bullets.
evil solrac v3.0
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BenjaminBirdie said:
wrong. one, cold and the other rogues can counter the flash, he isn't infallible. cold's guns can slow him down, heatwave can fight him, Grodd can take over his mind, tar, on and on. sorry but you can't be birdie.
BobTheFork
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I feel like everyone says Batman when this comes up and I've never been happy with the entire gallery taken as a whole. He has a few of the best villains, but then he has some of the worse and lamest villains as well. I always loved Iron Man and Hulk villains, because they had to go a bit crazy to make legitimate threats for them. I never read enough DD comics to say one way or another but I love KingPin.
BenjaminBirdie
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evil solrac v3.0 said:
Of course they can FIGHT him but they aren't as cool as him. Most of them don't even have real powers, they have guns or suits or toys. Oh god just thinking about it makes me mad. And those costume designs. Holy living shit.
MisterHero
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except he's a billionaire, who's an olympic-level athlete in every sport, and the one time he dies he doesn't, even though Darkseid promises that it's a form of ultimate suffering, and even then he has amnesia so he really isn't suffering. Maybe I'll concede though that it's probably a weakness on the writers' part though.BenjaminBirdie said:
hey maybe in a couple decades due to inflation of the time and the prosperity of Batman Inc., maybe he'll be written as a quadrillionaire
BenjaminBirdie
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TestMonkey said:
Oooh, viciously unfair! They'd beat everyone a thousand times over.
Anasui Kishibe
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X-Men for me. Mister Sinister alone was the bloody real deal when we didn't know shit about him
Ignorance of a character is why anyone wouldn't know about a hero's rogues. Watch Iron Man: Armored Adventures and you will all see he too has an interesting rogues gallery. (its as good as Spectacular Spiderman)Averon said:
But anyone who's seen JLU should know that it's Superman's rogue that made most of that show as badass as it was. Superman's rogues can take on the entire Justice League consistently. Who else can claim rogues that interesting?
BenjaminBirdie
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MisterHero said:except he's a billionaire, who's an olympic-level athlete in every sport, and the one time he dies he doesn't, even though Darkseid promises that it's a form of ultimate suffering, and even then he has amnesia so he really isn't suffering. Maybe I'll concede though that it's probably a weakness on the writers' part though.
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Trolling Grant Morrison doesn't magically "grant"
lol fucking awesome pun) Batman superpowers. Sorry. He's just a guy.Anticitizen One
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I would have to go with The Flash and The Amazing Spider-Man
TheKaeptain
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Superman
Batman
Spidey
Flash maybe the best superhero but his rogues have only become cool recently.
Batman
Spidey
Flash maybe the best superhero but his rogues have only become cool recently.
Master Thespian
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How is this not every answer?the_log_ride said:
Mrs. Manky
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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Avatar quote needed here.
PhoncipleBone
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The only good counter argument to that was the man who posted the Fantastic Four, if only for Doctor Doom. Otherwise I dont think it is much of a debate. Spidey and Batman have the best rogues gallery, hands down.Master Thespian said:
MisterHero
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to be fair to Morrison, he didn't come up with Batman being an all-around olympic athelete, ultra-intelligent and billionaire. Any one of those things alone would make Bruce Wayne not "just a guy".BenjaminBirdie said::lol
Trolling Grant Morrison doesn't magically "grant"
My "troll" was mostly about that part. I'm also frustrated with how long they're taking to explain Batman's intricate scheme with tricking Darkseid into not simply killing him.
for what it's worth though, other top villains were humans with vast resources: Lex Luthor and Ozymandias
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