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[FormulaOne]

Why are the PS3 fans complaining about this? Did they think that Sega would port it over in a couple of months and stop working on it until the release date?

EDIT: Well I guess it's because Sega changed its stance on online play? Even then, they needed to put something in the 360 version to extinguish it from the PS3 version released half a year before it.

So that's how long it took Sega to port and complete VF5 on the 360 - 2 Months? That's quite the project management victory. They might as well add a a car chase mode with all the time they supposedly had left over.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

You mean like they accidentally caught a break at GDC 2007? Sony doesn't need a break as their lineup and announcements will put them in a good position for the fall. As for VF5 for the PS3, people need to remember that the PS3 is the lead SKU for VF5. Just as the PS3 is the lead SKU for Sega Rally Evo. Adding online to VF5 via a patch is without question a possibility and I wouldn't be surprised if it's already in place

Laugh? I don't know whether to cry. :lol

 

[FormulaOne]

It's an arcade game. Lead SKU doesn't really apply.

So they 360 version was ported from the arcade version?

 

[Akira]

So that's how long it took Sega to port and complete VF5 on the 360 - 2 Months? That's quite the project management victory. They might as well add a a car chase mode with all the time they supposedly had left over.

Eh, I don't really know how long it takes to port a game. But if people were expecting a straight port, they were kidding themselves. Obviously adding online play is more than a straight port, but it's a good incentive for those who waited for the 360 version.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

So that's how long it took Sega to port and complete VF5 on the 360 - 2 Months? That's quite the project management victory. They might as well add a a car chase mode with all the time they supposedly had left over.

:lol

 

[FormulaOne]

Eh, I don't really know how long it takes to port a game. But if people were expecting a straight port, they were kidding themselves. Obviously adding online play is more than a straight port, but it's a good incentive for those who waited for the 360 version.

Personally, I prefer straight ports, but that's just the way I swing.

 

[SiegfriedFM]

Online will still be broken regardless of platform. I can't wait to not being able to play Akira or Aoi and having to resort completely to Wolf to counter all those HUGE lag windows with throws...

 

[Akira]

Personally, I prefer straight ports, but that's just the way I swing.

lol cuz ur heterosexual rite

 

[drohne]

good news for people with the connection and the patience for online 3d fighting -- my doa4 online experience was horrible, so i'm pretty leery about double-dipping here. i wouldn't expect a ps3 patch -- this is sega, and moreover the game sold like shit.

 

[Hammer24]

・ Addition of Online Versus Mode
・ Addition of rank that only appears online
・ Support voice chats
・ Addition of online rankings
・ Ranking clip data (replays) can be browsed
・ More CPUs and balance adjustment in Quest Mode
・ More items to equip on the characters
・ Enhanced performance in DOJO Mode
・ Realized battles played by carrying in save data to VS Mode [the game will track your win/loss stats in versus mode, unlike the PS3 version]
・ Support controller vibration
・ Support analog stick
・ Additional recording of the commentary voice
・ Addition of commentary feature on EU version
・ Support Achievements and rich presence
・ Support downloading contents in the marketplace
・ Support Xbox 360 antaliasing

See kids, so much additional content is only possible on DVD9!

Spoiler

/sarcasm

 

[KTallguy]

Online will still be broken regardless of platform. I can't wait to not being able to play Akira or Aoi and having to resort completely to Wolf to counter all those HUGE lag windows with throws...

A simple P throw will beat a lot of options if there's lag. Or elbow throw.
But that doesn't really matter in the long run. This is America dude.

 

[tribal24]

good news for people with the connection and the patience for online 3d fighting -- my doa4 online experience was horrible, so i'm pretty leery about double-dipping here. i wouldn't expect a ps3 patch -- this is sega, and moreover the game sold like shit.

i kinda expect a patch though but its not likely but hey they did update the attrocious sonic on the ps3 store with new content

 

[a Master Ninja]

i kinda expect a patch though but its not likely but hey they did update the attrocious sonic on the ps3 store with new content

That was to make money though, not a free patch to make the game less broken.

 

[Bookey]

anyone think there is a chance for a vf5:evo type game down the line? (with teh online play)

 

[karasu]

A lot of people assume there will be an Evo. I don't know why.

 

[ferricide]

Can we plug in a headset into any of the arcade sticks?

i'd assume they'd use the same shell as the DOA stick, which as you can see at the bottom has a tumor that, i assume, is where the headset plugs in.

Good interview. I wish you would have asked him something in regards to the PS3 version though. You asked him point blank about the online thing, maybe another point blank question about the PS3 version and it's owners would have been cool as well.

"What about all of the owners of the PS3 version who now feel shafted because of this new release?" etc. Something along those lines.

thanks. that's a good point. i was more interested in getting as much info as i could, though, and this was an email interview, so there wasn't much room for back and forth.

i don't personally look at PS3 owners as getting "shafted" though. sega told you what they were making, and they delivered an excellent port of an excellent game. that there's a new version coming out with more features for another platform is something else entirely.

did capcom "shaft" us when they released street fighter II for SNES when champion edition was already out in arcades? if GAF existed then, i would imagine there would be a 20 page thread about it =)

 

[godhandiscen]

Amazing news for the not so hardcore players like me. Now I will definitely pick it up. Good job Sega. If they want the PS3 version to gain more sales they should patch it too.

 

[drohne]

some japanese arcade site posted information about vf5 evo months back -- and some kind of refresh for the arcade version of vf5 is inevitable. they might be holding off on the announcement to avoid undermining the 360 port.

 

[D3VI0US]

Well it was never going to be the same as the PS3 version which was based on an older arcade version. They're no doubt adding any enhancements and tuning and refinements that are present in the arcade version, probably right down to the accessories. Also just like Virtua Tennis the video mode was somewhat expected. The online however given everything Sega has publicly said was not expected at all. 360 was the ideal platform for it though cause of the horrible numbers it's doing in Japan so it won't cut into Sega's arcades business too much.

 

[ferricide]

some japanese arcade site posted information about vf5 evo months back -- and some kind of refresh for the arcade version of vf5 is inevitable. they might be holding off on the announcement to avoid undermining the 360 port.

well, i always guessed that they never ported VF4FT so that the arcade would always have the newest version of the game. is that's true, it seems inevitable that they'd supercede this version eventually to keep the arcade the place to be.

not that they really have to worry about japanese gamers buying this version instead of playing in arcades. it'll sell alright, but the online play is clearly for the US/EU audience.

 

[Kintaro]

thanks. that's a good point. i was more interested in getting as much info as i could, though, and this was an email interview, so there wasn't much room for back and forth.

i don't personally look at PS3 owners as getting "shafted" though. sega told you what they were making, and they delivered an excellent port of an excellent game. that there's a new version coming out with more features for another platform is something else entirely.

did capcom "shaft" us when they released street fighter II for SNES when champion edition was already out in arcades? if GAF existed then, i would imagine there would be a 20 page thread about it =)

It was an example question. Not one to use obviously. However, there will be people who did feel shafted. It's human nature and it happens. I'm not going to let Sega off the hook though. For example, Oblivion was released and improved for the PS3 version. 360 owners got those same improvements through a patch. Then also got the expansion which PS3 owners are still waiting for. It's not entirely maddening to think the same should be accomplished here. It's just providing more value to the people who supported your product when it was first released. What's wrong with that, really?

For the record, I knew 360 was getting a version, and that's cool. It's a kick ass fighting game. However, I can't help but feel gipped because I happened to support the game first and then not end up with the features via download. It's not a new game. This doesn't fit into your SF example. SF 2 and SF2: Champion Edition are two different games pretty much. That's more akin to VF4 and VF4: Evo. Two different games. If Sega were to call this VF5: Evo, then cool, I'd accept that, buy it, and move on. In this case, it's only natural for it to sting a little bit, when other companies have provided support to those who supported the product earlier.

 

[ferricide]

it is like VF5 evo, though, since it's based on a new arcade rev.. which is what evo was. =)

i don't disagree that making it right on PS3 is a good idea; but at the same time, i don't feel like they pulled a fast one on anybody.

then again i also don't get these comments "i bought a PS3 for this one game and now it's going to 360!" i mean, there will be other PS3 games. *shrug

 

[Kintaro]

it is like VF5 evo, though, since it's based on a new arcade rev.. which is what evo was. =)

Version C adds new characters? =O

 

[gkryhewy]

You mean like they accidentally caught a break at GDC 2007? Sony doesn't need a break as their lineup and announcements will put them in a good position for the fall. As for VF5 for the PS3, people need to remember that the PS3 is the lead SKU for VF5. Just as the PS3 is the lead SKU for Sega Rally Evo. Adding online to VF5 via a patch is without question a possibility and I wouldn't be surprised if it's already in place

:lol :lol :lol
Tell me you're a joke character. If not:

 

[Mercury Fred]

This is delightful. I really like the VF series, but not enough for it to be a system seller. I was planning on picking this up anyway, but being able to dabble with the online mode just sweetens the deal.

 

[Apharmd Battler]

WOW! I was actually going to wait and pick it up later due to lack of online play. NOw it's on my to get list. Hopefullyl the online play will ne a lot better than DOA4. <crosses fingers>

 

[chespace]

:lol :lol :lol
Tell me you're a joke character. If not:

The damage controlling is strong in here. :lol

Still not sure what the bitterness/debate is. Seems like all the VF5-PS3 folks are convinced the game is going to suck shit online anyway -- so really they're not missing out. What then, is the problem?

 

[tribal24]

The damage controlling is strong in here. :lol

Still not sure what the bitterness/debate is. Seems like all the VF5-PS3 folks are convinced the game is going to suck shit online anyway -- so really they're not missing out. What then, is the problem?

there is not much debate but what i dont want to see happen is sega releasing a evo version for ps3, when they could just release a patch on psn its that simple

 

[chespace]

there is not much debate but what i dont want to see happen is sega releasing a evo version for ps3, when they could just release a patch on psn its that simple

I agree -- that would be kind of raw.

At any rate, I'm glad I held off and waited.

It's not like I have any competition up here in Redmond anyways.

 

[Secks4Food]

The damage controlling is strong in here. :lol

Still not sure what the bitterness/debate is. Seems like all the VF5-PS3 folks are convinced the game is going to suck shit online anyway -- so really they're not missing out. What then, is the problem?

I doubt most PS3 owners feel that way, it just makes them feel better about not getting it when they find everything that can possibly go wrong and bitch about it. Just look at all the people who own both 360 and PS3 saying "well I guess I'm rebuying it yay!"

 

[jetjevons]

there is not much debate but what i dont want to see happen is sega releasing a evo version for ps3, when they could just release a patch on psn its that simple

Well there's what you want, and then there's what Sega want (hint: $$$).

Seriously though while I think it would be great if Sega did patch the game I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[Pachinko]

makes me glad that I just finished trading ps3 VF5 for ninja gaiden sigma.... course I still don't think I'd grab it, as soon as I lose a round in any online game I almost immediatly lose motivation to continue playing whatever game it is.

 

[ferricide]

Version C adds new characters? =O

actually, i dunno. it might. have they really announced what all it has? i don't follow this stuff religiously.

 

[LM4sure]

omg! this news is amazing. thank you for this!!!

 

[Jide]

Version C does not have new characters...

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Version C does not have new characters...

But the 360 version does have support for DLC, so we can't say a definite no.

Spoiler

Yet.

 

[Fatghost]

This is awesome news.

 

[Quagm1r3]

Whoa...

I didn't see that coming...

 

[Jirotrom]

I hate to do stuff like this but I just NEEDED to post this:

http://www.ps3.justgotowned.com/

Really, I still want a PS3, just for Lair and Heavenly Sword =P, but that was just too funny to not use it today.

there are some seriously sad pictures in there...

 

[SapientWolf]

Well there's what you want, and then there's what Sega want (hint: $$$).

Seriously though while I think it would be great if Sega did patch the game I wouldn't hold your breath.

Patch or not, expect to pay if they bring online multiplayer to the PS3.

 

[SaitoH]

Great news and hopefully VF5 sells well on the 360. I do hope for a patch for the PS3 version, but wont' hold my breath.

 

[KTallguy]

Still not sure what the bitterness/debate is. Seems like all the VF5-PS3 folks are convinced the game is going to suck shit online anyway -- so really they're not missing out. What then, is the problem?

I'm very happy that online is coming to the 360. The more people that buy the game and play it, the more people there will be to play. I want more competition, of course

I'm skeptical of online VF with lag, but that only applies to a very small group, so really it doesn't matter.

I'd hope that even if SEGA doesn't put online on PS3, at least they'd give PS3 users version C updates and the other features. It was hinted at in the old thread's OP, so although I doubt it will happen, I have a small amount of hope. That way, 360 players and PS3 players can be on the same page as far as gameplay tweaks.

It would be great if online comes to the PS3 too, but with Sony's lackluster support, I'm a bit doubtful.

 

[TheRipDizz]

**awards 100 street credits to Reno's account**

 

[Daigoro]

(its been said in this thread several times allready, but-)

lets not kid ourselves, online will most likely be shite, but its still nice to have it included.

but this finally puts to rest when i will be taking the 360 plunge. 360+VF5+Hori stickx2 purchases confirmed for me.

 

[Freshmaker]

Nah. This is really really bad news. Nobody wants to play a fighting game online. And we've never had this thread before.

Online play = NO BUY

(Geeze, that's still annoying to see no matter what side of the coin it's on.)

Seriously though, I hope the new Hori's better than the DOA4 stick though. (Kokoro FTL)

 

[Daigoro]

Seriously though, I hope the new Hori's better than the DOA4 stick though. (Kokoro FTL)

it wont be.

it will be virtually the same. Hori make decent -better than the average store bought- arcade stick. it will be usuable, but the parts will quickyl wear out with some good abuse.

thats why we mod.

i just hope the buttons arent directly soldered to the pcb, but they probably will be. either way: mod or die.

 

[Jirotrom]

it wont be.

it will be virtually the same. Hori make decent -better than the average store bought- arcade stick. it will be usuable, but the parts will quickyl wear out with some good abuse.

thats why we mod.

i just hope the buttons arent directly soldered to the pcb, but they probably will be. either way: mod or die.

I have two tekken 5 sticks ready for mod and a Street-fighter 15th anniversary stick.

Anywho, you guys know if they will have some way to save replays and trade them on the net, or at least VFTV like VTTV for Virtua Tennis?

 

[KTallguy]

Shame that you can't use the Virtua Stick on 360. Maybe you could hack it?

 

[Jirotrom]

Shame that you can't use the Virtua Stick on 360. Maybe you could hack it?

Ive debated getting a custom stick from some of the guys posting at shoryuken, Finkle does an amazing job... you can see his work here but I don't know if he does 360 stuff, i may just ask for a shell and wire the stuff myself.
http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/suite53sticks/?

 

[KTallguy]

The issue with the 360 is that MS has some kind of propriatery hardware spec.

So the 360 can't accept USB or other peripherals unless they are specifically made for the console.

It's a shame, because with some simple drivers you can get a Virtual Stick to work on a PC, and you can connect many different usb peripherals to the PS3 and they'll work. I've tried a multitude of hard drives and they've all worked flawlessly.