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Congress had a chance to get Trump’s tax returns. Republicans voted it down.

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BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
Its been obvious for a while they don't want to lift this rock, and that rock, and the rock up on the hill...

They'd allow possible Russian meddling at the highest position just to pass some conservative bills.
 

FyreWulff

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ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
What would have happened if Congress had a vote on releasing Obama's long form birth certificate years ago and Democrats voted it down?

You'd think the Republicans wouldn't have thrown a shit fit?
 

Garlador

Member
Sounds about right. It doesn't matter how much it hurts them, the victory is more important than anything else.

I've said it many times before, but I'm a Republican, but I'm not near-sighted about this. I don't put party over nation.

SO many Republicans view it as "us versus them", like politics is nothing more than a Super Bowl game and you pick your side and all that matters is winning. You "stick with your side" no matter what and you defend your team no matter what they do.

And so many Republicans (and Democrats) just forget that we're not on opposing "teams". We're on the same team, as Americans. We have different beliefs and views and roles to play, but a good government is composed of differing ideologies that come together to spur on healthy debate and yet compromise and work together for the mutual benefit of both parties and all citizens.

"Winning" by any means necessary and ignoring the caustic and toxic methods and people put into power is only beneficial short-term, while it causes long-term damage as it slowly erodes the foundation of all our liberties and freedoms. When the pendulum of history inevitably swings the other direction, and GOP voters are on the losing side again, what they did won't be forgotten, and who they put into power won't be forgiven by those actually harmed by their negligence, hostility, or outright pettiness.

Politics should never be treated like a juvenile sporting event, but you have people who will defend "their team" no matter what illegal things they do, so long as it gets them the "win" by any means necessary, and that just corrupts and warps the government for everyone involved and damages the fabric of our nation at a very deep level.

When the tide turns... I hope the Dems won't be so ruthless to the losing party, but I also can't say I'd blame them one bit for holding a grudge through such pedantic and infuriating mockeries of our system.
 
Since the senate finance committee can also look into taxes via the same law we should be calling our representatives on that commitee to voice our concerns that it be looked into.

https://www.finance.senate.gov/about/membership

Bob Menendez is one of my senators and I will be making a call to his office tomorrow to let them know how I feel about the possible corruption Trumps taxes could reveal.
 

CazTGG

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If Democrats ever regain power, scorched earth. Prosecute every obstructing collaborator to the fullest extent.

"If". Voter suppression is going to get a lot worse leading up to the 2017 (yes, there are some seats in the HoR, cities and states to be won this year) & 2018 so it's going to be difficult to swing back, especially given how few red seats in the Senate are up in comparison to blue: Counting Independents as Ds, the Democrats would need to flip three seats in predominantly Republican states like Texas, Utah and Alabama in order to hold a majority, five not counting Is if they wanted to guarantee, say, a complete block of Trump's Supreme Court nomination, assuming Gorsuch isn't confirmed in the time leading up to the midterms. It's not impossible given the current political climate but it's definitely an uphill battle for them to go low like many rightfully want them to.
 
As a UK civil servant it amazes me that someone could get to such a position of power without being thoroughly vetted.

Hell, to get to a grade 6 or even just a 7 position sometimes here you have to go through an amazingly thorough security clearance where they go into every detail of your life so far- all your finances, partners, family and even down to your porn/sex preferences just to make sure you aren't compromised and open to blackmail.

The fact someone who seemingly has ties to one of the countries biggest threats can become president and break every security rule going is both amazing and terrifying.
 
My belief is that if Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?" Brady said

Off with his head.

I hope everyone pounds this motherfucker
's phone lines and email


EDIT: Here you go.

Phone, Fax or Mail Congressman Kevin Brady, R-Texas

U.S. Capitol Office

Address:
U.S. Representative Kevin Brady
1011 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515

Phone: (202) 225-4901
Fax: (202) 225-5524
Email: please use above zip-code entry

Staff:
David Davis -- Chief of Staff
Sahru Su --Legislative Director
CDR Josephine Nguyen -- Robert Wood Johnson Health Car Fellow
Jeffrey Last -- Senior Health Care Legislative Assistant
Dylan MacInerney – Legislative Assistant
Austin Bray - Legislative Assistant
Jen Jett -- Scheduler
Britney May -- Deputy Scheduler
Allyson Manley -- Deputy Press Secretary
Josh Bradley -- Legislative Correspondent

Conroe District Office
(SERVING HARRIS, GRIMES & MONTGOMERY COUNTIES)

Address:
200 River Pointe, Suite 304
Conroe, Texas 77304
Map to this office

Phone: (936) 441-5700
Fax: (936) 441-5757

Staff:
Todd Stephens - District Director
Tracee Evans - Communications Director
Janet Qureshi - Director of Case Management

Huntsville District Office
(SERVING HOUSTON, LEON, MADISON, SAN JACINTO, TRINITY AND WALKER COUNTIES)

Address:
1300 11th Street, Suite 400
Huntsville, TX 77340
Map to this office

Phone: (936) 439-9532
Fax: (936) 439-9546

Staff:
Vita Swarers – Case Worker
Michael G. Ethridge -- Field Representative

wikipedia said:
On October 7, 2005 Brady was arrested and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol while in South Dakota to accept a distinguished alumni award. He was returning from a reception with his mother, wife, sister, and brother-in-law in the car when he was pulled over for a non-working tail light. He faced a fine of up to $1,000 and a year in jail. He pleaded no contest. Upon his misdemeanor conviction on November 8, he was fined $350, and his right to drive in South Dakota was suspended for 30 days. Before his sentencing, Brady had stated that "no one is above the law" and he would accept "every consequence" of his actions, even if that meant a jail sentence. "To me, regardless of how this turns out, what it says is that you don't get behind the wheel."[32]
 

jerd

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Just claim that it's a matter of National Security.

And let's face it, with the way things are going, his tax returns probably involve Russia somehow.

Maybe I'm being super ignorant here but why would whatever shady shit he's doing with Russia be included anywhere in his tax returns? Putin isn't exactly gonna send him a W-2 for his position as Puppet and I'm sure he'd hide any incriminating evidence related to Russia.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
“My belief is that if Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?” Brady said

What does this even mean?
 

McLovin

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I don't understand why anyone gives a shit about his tax returns...
Dude you could write a book on why its important. I mean Trump made Obama whip out his damn birth certificate. He kept spreading false rumors that he was Muslim, and was involved with(actually I think he claimed he started) isis. All this was based on nothing. There was plenty of evidence tying Trump to Russia, not only that there is possible tax fraud. Its incredibly important.
 

Theonik

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I don't get the republican obsession to protect Trump. He's an outsider so anything he's done can be washed off if they find it now. Unless he was in cahoots with high ranking republicans this is very risky considering it could blow back in their face if the evidence is found through other means.

This should be in their better interest considering they still have Pence to pick up the RNC agenda after the fact.
 

Theonik

Member
That is an interesting point. They might be afraid that if the pendulum swings in 2018 the democrats might use it to investigate their shady dealings.
 
I don't get the republican obsession to protect Trump. He's an outsider so anything he's done can be washed off if they find it now. Unless he was in cahoots with high ranking republicans this is very risky considering it could blow back in their face if the evidence is found through other means.

This should be in their better interest considering they still have Pence to pick up the RNC agenda after the fact.

The problem the Republicans have is that their base still LOVES Trump. He got elected by promising to clean up the swamp; if they turn on him, they validate the feelings people have that Washington insiders are working against the American people. Sure, you still get the RNC agenda, but you no longer have the charismatic snake oil salesman delivering the message, and now over half your base views you as being sell-outs and traitors willing to vote for anyone who comes along to challenge you in a primary. Until Trump's approval ratings dip below 20 in formerly safe red districts, Republicans won't do a thing. After all, who cares about treason if you're still winning elections?
 

rec0ded1

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I mean, the government HAS our taxes. If it wants them, it can get them.

Right but I have a feeling that looking at trumps taxes closely and telling the public will open a pandora's box that connects other government officials doing shady shit with their money. I'm sure there's a trail of shenanigans that connects some of them to trump in some way. So they use the bullshit "protect the people" stuff to avoid the spotlight.

If I take my conspiracy hat off, it's probably just them wanting to keep trump out of hot water as much as possible so they can get all their crappy ideas through for as long as they can.
 

Theonik

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The problem the Republicans have is that their base still LOVES Trump. He got elected by promising to clean up the swamp; if they turn on him, they validate the feelings people have that Washington insiders are working against the American people. Sure, you still get the RNC agenda, but you no longer have the charismatic snake oil salesman delivering the message, and now over half your base views you as being sell-outs and traitors willing to vote for anyone who comes along to challenge you in a primary. Until Trump's approval ratings dip below 20 in formerly safe red districts, Republicans won't do a thing. After all, who cares about treason if you're still winning elections?
I don't think his actual base is that strong. Approving an investigation shouldn't be a big thing unless they find something at which point his approval rates will naturally plummet.

If they find nothing though they can resume business as normal.
 
I don't get the republican obsession to protect Trump. He's an outsider so anything he's done can be washed off if they find it now. Unless he was in cahoots with high ranking republicans this is very risky considering it could blow back in their face if the evidence is found through other means.

This should be in their better interest considering they still have Pence to pick up the RNC agenda after the fact.

their voters liked him better than any of them, and even then, he just barely beat the most-hated dem candidate ever. they'll defend him to not jeopardize their ability to pass conservative legislation.

on this particular issue, there may also be a fear of setting precedent for aggressively investigating conflicts of interest in politicians if any of them hold similar ones.
 

Lkr

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“My belief is that if Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?” Brady said

Fucking lol
 

wildfire

Banned
“My belief is that if Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?” Brady said, telling reporters that Pascrell’s request “misrepresents the legislative intent of that provision, which in fact creates confidentiality and privacy for Americans in their tax returns.”

Lol, yeah because rummaging through a random ass person's tax returns compared to the the president's, who has proven to have strong ties with Russia, so much so that people are essentially getting FIRED over it, are even remotely the same thing.

But we can deny people basic rights like entering the country and privacy based on absolutely nothing, no problem.


Nothing but crocodile tears. It's the job of each branch to out themselves in check.


It's nothing new that Congress has continued being spineless about doing their job.


It sucks they are rewarded more for in action than action.
 

Ithil

Member
I don't get the republican obsession to protect Trump. He's an outsider so anything he's done can be washed off if they find it now. Unless he was in cahoots with high ranking republicans this is very risky considering it could blow back in their face if the evidence is found through other means.

This should be in their better interest considering they still have Pence to pick up the RNC agenda after the fact.

The issue is if they burn Trump, his base goes with him and that might kill them in elections for the foreseeable future, so all the power they worked underhandedly over the last decade to attain could be gone in only 2-4 years.
 
Trump is the golden goose, he'll sign whatever you shove in front of him and they have both senate and congress.


Why in the world would they do anything that could screw this up
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
Man, fuck these political parties. R giving no shits about country over party
 
They know something we don't. Like, where the fire is that all this smoke is coming from something.

The issue is if they burn Trump, his base goes with him and that might kill them in elections for the foreseeable future, so all the power they worked underhandedly over the last decade to attain could be gone in only 2-4 years.

And the Alt-Right Media may turn on them. I don't care now, this is an active choice those legislators chose, not even passivity.
 

Dalek

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“My belief is that if Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?” Brady said

Yes. Imagine if the Govenrment somehow got ahold of my tax return.
 

Theonik

Member
The issue is if they burn Trump, his base goes with him and that might kill them in elections for the foreseeable future, so all the power they worked underhandedly over the last decade to attain could be gone in only 2-4 years.
Do you think his base sticks around if this blows up through means out of their control? With how swampy and sloppy the current administration is it's only a matter of time.

They should distance themselves while they still can.
 

Nafai1123

Banned
This amount of cover can't be just for party.

Never underestimate a politicians desire to stay in power. They are so terrified of the Trump base abandoning them that they will put on treason blinders for the time being until the situation becomes so untenable that it's impossible to ignore....and even then they will ignore it for awhile longer.
 
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