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[evil solrac v3.0]

Right, but then you have the issue of a completely un-balanced playing field because you are playing against people who are using M+KB. This is at least the third time I've said this, but I understand that the thread is moving quickly so it's easy to miss things.

who gives a damn? play with what you are comfortable with. that's the beauty of PC, use any controller configuration you want. ANY.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I dont doubt your PC is great or that your setup is great.

My work PC is neither crappy nor old. I dont want to look for a new job - I love what I do, I just dont want to be back in front of a keyboard and mouse when Im not at work.

Also, Im fairly confident that my [not] old, beer fart, non-lumbar couch and recliner are far more comfortable than your computer chair.

I dont have anything against PC gaming -- I already mentioned that I have friends with fantastic setups. The thread title was "what keeps you from PC Gaming"....and the answer for me was simply, I dont care to get on a PC or be in front of a keyboard/mouse when Im not at work. Why is that hard to understand or fathom? Why is it that feeling that way seems to hurt some people's feelings?

because a lot people are spreading falsehoods about PC gaming?
p.s my chair is better.

 

[scy]

who gives a damn? play with what you are comfortable with. that's the beauty of PC, use any controller configuration you want. ANY.

I dunno about that. Part of the fun of playing multiplayer, at least for me, is the actual competition. I enjoy using my controller for FPS games but I'll be damned if I'm going to try to be remotely competitive online with that.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

sigh.

I think its time to move on, I've said what I needed to say, and if you guy's aren't willing to see it from my perspective instead of jumping to these rash conclusion based on stuff I've said that has been taken way out of context, then there really is no need for me to try prove my point, because in the end I'd still be wrong and you guys' would still be right.

That doesn't look like a list of games to me!

...it's always cool when people hit an insurmountable obstacle and pretend to take the high road to get out of it.

 

[WaltJay]

The only reason I don't is that I can't get what I want: a desktop PC. I just don't have the room for it anymore. Damn babies!

I have a decent laptop, but it's far from cutting edge and laptops are a bitch to upgrade (at least at my skill level; desktops are no problem). Back when I had the room, I used to upgrade my PC piecemeal; it was a great. Those were the days...

 

[kikonawa]

Couch, TV , decent joypad , ease of startup of console and game


BASICLY A PCCONSOLE

 

[Dali]

I think when he says "killer app" he means a game that would make purchasing a PC worth it to him.

Exactly. I've never been a diablo fan. Western rpgs aren't my thing. Rts are fun but I don't lose any sleep about missing out on sc2.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

who gives a damn? play with what you are comfortable with. that's the beauty of PC, use any controller configuration you want. ANY.

I do... When I'm playing a competitive multiplayer FPS I put a lot of weight into how level the playing field is.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

sigh.

I think its time to move on, I've said what I needed to say, and if you guy's aren't willing to see it from my perspective instead of jumping to these rash conclusion based on stuff I've said that has been taken way out of context, then there really is no need for me to try prove my point, because in the end I'd still be wrong and you guys' would still be right.

or maybe you're full of it and wanted to spread some FUD? it's ok, it's a rainy friday were i'm at and i'm feeling bored at work too. by the way, you never had a valid point because you were never right to begin with.

 

[El-Suave]

When I started getting into the whole home cinema stuff years ago PC wasn't exactly a part of that.

I do miss some PC games from time to time, but overall console and handheld games are more than enough for me.

 

[mbmonk]

I dont have anything against PC gaming -- I already mentioned that I have friends with fantastic setups. The thread title was "what keeps you from PC Gaming"....and the answer for me was simply, I dont care to get on a PC or be in front of a keyboard/mouse when Im not at work. Why is that hard to understand or fathom? Why is it that feeling that way seems to hurt some people's feelings?

I know what you are talking about. When I am looking at a monitor and holding a mouse I have a certain posture in my neck and arms. So if I am in front of a computer almost all day ( working and playing ) I will get stiffness in my neck because I hold my head a certain way. I don't do that when I am on my couch. But that is when I take a break or plug in the 360 pad if the game supports it. But I feel your pain ... so to speak.

 

[TheExodu5]

sigh.

I think its time to move on, I've said what I needed to say, and if you guy's aren't willing to see it from my perspective instead of jumping to these rash conclusion based on stuff I've said that has been taken way out of context, then there really is no need for me to try prove my point, because in the end I'd still be wrong and you guys' would still be right.

Yeah, that's the problem.

 

[statham]

I never understood this odd conception that you can't hook a PC to a television.

late reply to this, my monitor blew and I didn't feel like spending $200 bucks on a new monitor, so I hooked up our bedroom 37inch TV to my computer & moved it to my desk. the laughs I got from my wife while surfing the internet from a TV almost longer then my small desk, sitting 1 1/2 feet from it. ya, got a monitor the next weekend, besides that she could easly see everything I was surfing... she even took photos and facebooked then.

 

[bangai-o]

does a pc gamer have to create this thread every fucking week?

 

[TheSeks]

who gives a damn?

People looking for a level playing field?

 

[Zeliard]

late reply to this, my monitor blew and I didn't feel like spending $200 bucks on a new monitor, so I hooked up our bedroom 37inch TV to my computer & moved it to my desk. the laughs I got from my wife while surfing the internet from a TV almost longer then my small desk, sitting 1 1/2 feet from it. ya, got a monitor the next weekend, besides that she could easly see everything I was surfing... she even took photos and facebooked then.

Divorce.

 

[Curufinwe]

does a pc gamer have to create this thread every fucking week?

First line in the thread.

I'm primarily a console gamer

 

[mbmonk]

That doesn't look like a list of games to me!

...it's always cool when people hit an insurmountable obstacle and pretend to take the high road to get out of it.

LMAO!

He had to try..

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Guess I prefer the simplified, closed box and pop in and play routine rather than installing, optimizing, napping keys, callibrating the mouse. Nothing against it, just not for me.

Oh and comfy couch. =P

Sigh... people just post whatever the hell they feel like, I guess.

Calibrating the mouse? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you mean adjusting sensitivity? Last I checked, just about every console shooter offers sensitivity settings, too.

Installing? I dunno about you, but I install every 360 game because they run better and are quieter that way. Lots of PS3 games require long installations, too. No idea what napping keys means. Optimizing? Sure you have the option to tweak stuff all you like, but out of the box, most games offer a much better visual experience than consoles if you have a remotely modern system with a decent GPU.

Comfy couch is bullshit and you know it. No platform has its own dedicated furniture.

 

[jergrah]

because a lot people are spreading falsehoods about PC gaming?
p.s my chair is better.

But Im not one of them -- nowhere in my handful of posts in this thread have I said anything negative about PC gaming or false about it. My only reasoning is I have 0 interest in being in front of a keyboard and mouse when not at work - that's it.

I could build a PC if I wanted -- I just have no interest. I think Steam is fantastic -- as mentioned, I do use it on my Mac, just not very often. Seeing Crysis running in high-res at my pals house was mind-blowingly great. But for me, again, it just falls back to the fact that I avoid being on a PC when Im not at work.

I still think my couch and my recliner are better -- so that, we can agree to disagree on

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

I do... When I'm playing a competitive multiplayer FPS I put a lot of weight into how level the playing field is.

play for fun,not competition. do you get paid for "competitive" multi FPS? if yes, then I can see your point, if not the only thing that bothers me is people using some sort of hack to cehat (going thru walls, etc) otherwise it's sopa box derby races, everyone has a different design going in.

 

[statham]

does a pc gamer have to create this thread every fucking week?

doesn't sound like the OP is a pc gamer....

 

[fin]

With that said, console-only gamers are doing themselves a disservice by not playing PC games. This doesn't mean they need to keep an up-to-date PC, it means that they should play games that work with whatever computer they have. Have a go with older games that will run on pretty much any computer; Or play newer games with modest system requirements.

Couldn't agree more. Even though my rig is shiyt I'm glad I've played the games I have. Starcraft 2, Sins of a Solar Empire, Civ 5, and even Battlefield 2 is still good. I really wanna try Alien Swarm, it's free on Steam! Anyone wanna play now? I'll be playing on my comfy couch just to prove a point! My steam ID is Finjitzu.

 

[bangai-o]

doesn't sound like the OP is a pc gamer....

still, this topic. always the same outcome.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

But Im not one of them -- nowhere in my handful of posts in this thread have I said anything negative about PC gaming or false about it. My only reasoning is I have 0 interest in being in front of a keyboard and mouse when not at work - that's it.

I could build a PC if I wanted -- I just have no interest. I think Steam is fantastic -- as mentioned, I do use it on my Mac, just not very often. Seeing Crysis running in high-res at my pals house was mind-blowingly great. But for me, again, it just falls back to the fact that I avoid being on a PC when Im not at work.

I still think my couch and my recliner are better -- so that, we can agree to disagree on

I know you haven't spread any but some of us are mad at the people that continue to. this goes back years int his forum.

p.p.s : my chair rocks!

 

[Psi]

still, this topic. always the same outcome.

It's a reminder that the Master Race joke will never die.

 

[Solo]

I see people saying this all the time and want to buy one. But do I need a wired 360 controller or can I just buy any 360 controller and plug it in?

If it needs to be a wired controller - where the hell do I find one? All the shops here in Norway has the wireless controller but no wired controller. Anyone have an idea?

Wireless adapter. A bought the pad + adapter pack.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

still, this topic. always the same outcome.

Why not just admit you tried to trash PC gamers and made a mistake?

 

[TheSeks]

play for fun,not competition.

Maybe some of us have fun competing on weekends with people we know aren't using alternative methods of control that may be better/worse than ours?

A level playing field is fun for some people. Why can't you see this?

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

play for fun,not competition. do you get paid for "competitive" multi FPS? if yes, then I can see your point, if not the only thing that bothers me is people using some sort of hack to cehat (going thru walls, etc) otherwise it's sopa box derby races, everyone has a different design going in.

It's not "fun" for me when I'm getting killed over and over by people who are using a quicker and more precise method of input that I happen to not prefer.

Here's the thing --- you are trying to convince me that PC gaming is better than console gaming but the problem is I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm telling you why I prefer playing Battlefield: BC2 on my PS3, not why BC2 is an objectively better game on the PS3 (which it isn't).

 

[TheExodu5]

does a pc gamer have to create this thread every fucking week?

A console gamer created this thread.

And yes...these threads will keep going on until the misinformation stops.

 

[Gravijah]

A console gamer created this thread.

He's obviously a spy.

 

[Tobor]

Ok, PC guys, here's what I want:

1. A non ugly case that will fit in a media center under a TV, horizontally, as close to the size of a console as possible
2. Decent enough specs to play the current and upcoming games.
3. Wireless controller support

It will never be used for anything but gaming, it will be a steam box only. Does anybody pre-build something like this? I'm super lazy and don't want to fuss with building anymore.

 

[scy]

Comfy couch is bullshit and you know it. No platform has its own dedicated furniture.

edit: derp

 

[SneakyStephan]

play for fun,not competition. do you get paid for "competitive" multi FPS? if yes, then I can see your point, if not the only thing that bothers me is people using some sort of hack to cehat (going thru walls, etc) otherwise it's sopa box derby races, everyone has a different design going in.

There's nothing fun about stomping noobs. (not for longer than a few minutes at least)

By extension there's nothing fun about stomping people who are at a huge disadvantage.
Just like a soccer match isn't fun if the other team isn't trying/ties both their shoelaces together/are all quadriplegics/have taken a bribe to lose.

 

[Tanolen]

sigh.

I think its time to move on, I've said what I needed to say, and if you guy's aren't willing to see it from my perspective instead of jumping to these rash conclusion based on stuff I've said that has been taken way out of context, then there really is no need for me to try prove my point, because in the end I'd still be wrong and you guys' would still be right.

You have no point to prove, you can't just claim something technical, and then go opinions man.

 

[iconoclast]

play for fun,not competition.

But competition is fun.

 

[VisanidethDM]

That doesn't look like a list of games to me!

...it's always cool when people hit an insurmountable obstacle and pretend to take the high road to get out of it.

The core argument about games is solid tho. I pick PC versions of games whenever I can, but I would have a much easier time being a console only gamer than a PC only gamer. The number and quality of titles that don't get a PC version is too high to ignore.

 

[StevieP]

Ok, PC guys, here's what I want:

1. A non ugly case that will fit in a media center under a TV, horizontally, as close to the size of a console as possible
2. Decent enough specs to play the current and upcoming games.
3. Wireless controller support

It will never be used for anything but gaming, it will be a steam box only. Does anybody pre-build something like this? I'm super lazy and don't want to fuss with building anymore.

1. http://www.google.ca/search?q=HTPC ...&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1899&bih=958

Personally, I have one of these:

(Smaller than your typical amp, and it is full ATX which means I've got terabytes of space, and dual-gpu)

2. Anything you buy for $600-1000 will curb-stomp any console put out in the next 4 years, PS4/720/Cafe included.

3. It's called a USB port.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Maybe some of us have fun competing on weekends with people we know aren't using alternative methods of control that may be better/worse than ours?

A level playing field is fun for some people. Why can't you see this?

deal with it? what are you gonna do beat up the other guy?

 

[delta25]

or maybe you're full of it and wanted to spread some FUD? it's ok, it's a rainy friday were i'm at and i'm feeling bored at work too. by the way, you never had a valid point because you were never right to begin with.

Look these game up and you'll see that they all suffer from being ported badly over to the PC in some shape or forum.

These are just a few that I can come up with off the top of my head.

list: Bulletstorm
Brink
Homefront
Hrdophbia
GTA 4
Resident evil 4
Dead space
Call of duty 2
Call of duty: Black ops
Halo CE

 

[SneakyStephan]

The core argument about games is solid tho. I pick PC versions of games whenever I can, but I would have a much easier time being a console only gamer than a PC only gamer. The number and quality of titles that don't get a PC version is too high to ignore.

24-30 fps, screen tearing out the wazoo, fuzzy low resolution IQ, TAA/MLAA further giving that -3 -3 vision effect (glasses gaf will get this) , laggy multiplayer, shoddy slow matchmaking.

The competition for these shoddy ports on their original platform is so poor that they are still a better alternative to it.
That does not mean that pc gamers are happy with the quality they get from developers.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

play for fun,not competition. do you get paid for "competitive" multi FPS? if yes, then I can see your point, if not the only thing that bothers me is people using some sort of hack to cehat (going thru walls, etc) otherwise it's sopa box derby races, everyone has a different design going in.

In a soap box derby race the level playing field is evident in the track, or at least it should be. The cars are the variable.

In an FPS everything should be on a level playing field except for the actions controlled by the input of the players. Optimally, anything external to this (such as input device and screen size) should be identical. Obviously the playing field will never be completely level (some people have bigger TV's, for example) but there are certain areas that I'm not willing to compromise in, such as KB+M and Dual Analog players playing in the same game.

 

[StevieP]

Your list is full of crap.

Just from my own personal experiences...GTA IV looks and runs shitty on consoles, and brute force power on the PC is the only way you can get the game to run any kind of smooth. CoD looks and runs MUCH better on PCs. It's not like it was 5 years ago, you know. Some of the games you listed (Halo CE? Hahahahahaha) are not valid arguments.

 

[mbmonk]

Look these game up and you'll see that they all suffer from being ported badly over to the PC in some shape or forum.

These are just a few that I can come up with off the top of my head.

list: Bulletstorm
Brink
Homefront
Hrdophbia
GTA 4
Resident evil 4
Dead space
Call of duty 2
Call of duty: Black ops
Halo CE

So much for the high road...

Brink is superior on PC BTW. No clue about the rest. Any FPS that has dedicated servers on PC and is P2P on consoles = superior on PC.

EDIT: I love how we went from "TERRIBLE" port to "suffer from being ported badly over to the PC in some shape or form". There is quite a difference in the two.

 

[TheSeks]

deal with it? what are you gonna do beat up the other guy?

*avatar quote*

Okay, you're an idiot that can't see why some people want all keyboard/controllers for a game. You can't seem to see that people have fun playing against others and not feeling that the other side is at a disadvantage.

Done talking to you. You're part of the reason why some of PC-GAF is mocked and why threads like this always pop up. Because PC-GAF can't seem to see that "customization" is a double-edged sword for fun for some people.

 

[bangai-o]

Your list is full of crap.

Just from my own personal experiences...GTA IV looks and runs shitty on consoles. CoD looks and runs MUCH better on PCs. It's not like it was 5 years ago, you know. Some of the games you listed (Halo CE? Hahahahahaha) are not valid arguments.

not on my pc

 

[Salacious Crumb]

Look these game up and you'll see that they all suffer from being ported badly over to the PC in some shape or forum.

These are just a few that I can come up with off the top of my head.


Call of duty 2

Not a port.

 

[StevieP]

not on my pc

Well sure, if you're running a Pentium 4 1.6ghz with a Geforce 440mx and 256mb of ram, it's not going to look as good.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

*avatar quote*

Okay, you're an idiot that can't see why some people want all keyboard/controllers for a game. You can't seem to see that people have fun playing against others and not feeling that the other side is at a disadvantage.

Done talking to you. You're part of the reason why some of PC-GAF is mocked and why threads like this always pop up. Because PC-GAF can't seem to see that "customization" is a double-edged sword for fun for some people.

You're being far too rational for this thread.